Irishman

I am curious what the rates are among high school and college players as well? We are on our 3rd season with turf and have not seen any significant injury like this. And a high number of college fields have the new turf, so I would be curious what those numbers are. One thing I do think impacts the increase is that we see far less contact to the upper body. I am thinking specifically of tackling, and how a player has to be aware of coming in too high on a ball carrier. If the ball carrier lowers his shoulder to finish a run, then the risk is too high for the defender to contact the head. So, players go lower. As far as line play goes, the old school style of just bull rushing is a great diminished aspect of the game. Defenders will often pop up and hand fight. The number of them playing upright, especially against zone blocking schemes that we see now, increases the risk of getting rolled up. As foxbat said too, I am curious if there is any tracking of wear and tear over the course of a career in high school through college.

The Chargers Chiefs game has been a great one. And that stadium in LA is unreal.

Watching the Packers vs Lions game. On the 2nd drive of the Lions, they challenged a fumble call. They had lost just 3 yards, but the challenge was that it should have been an incomplete pass. Here is what I don't get though. The ball hit an offensive lineman. Is that no longer a penalty in the NFL? I agree that it was an incomplete pass, but there is no question it hit the o lineman.

Lou Holtz at South Carolina. Gerry Faust at Akron. I do think at some point, Kelly will be lured away to an NFL team.

I KNOW that...you missed the point of my bringing that up COMPLETELY. Other schools charge a much higher fee if they allow the use of it at all.

I am curious to know just how many Bellichick assistants have flopped as head coaches. some that come to mind right away are Charlie Weiss at multiple stops, even though none have been in the NFL; Matt Patricia at Detroit. Josh McDaniels, Romeo Crenel, Jim Schwartz, Eric Mangini to name a few others....Kind of odd to see so many flops. Typically looking at other coaching trees, there seems to be more success.

Some colleges make a much bigger deal over this than others. Notre Dame raised quite a stink back in 2003 or 2004 about their logo. Some high schools across the country were forced to change the nickname and logo completely. I know a couple of schools even had to change their colors. I know Wisconsin asked Warren Central to create a slight variation to the W on their helmets. WC shaved off part of one side of it, and UWM officials were satisfied. Many years ago, I know Chatard was using the Michigan State Trojan logo on their helmet. When MSU notified the school of the infringement, they asked for a whopping fee for permission to use it of $1....pretty classy move on the part of MSU. I am not sure how the fight song issues play out though.

On the main forum, yes...but here? Going to have to completely disagree that ANYONE has been penalized for less...and especially MUCH less.

More than just disagreeing. If someone wants to accuse me of doing things that are not true or accurate, I will fire back.

I agree completely. That is actually my point, and has been my issue from day 1 of the voucher program. They can and do openly discriminate; not only who they let in their schools, but who can work in them as well. They can also deny services to special needs students, giving the parents one option; sign the waiver or go back to public school. It is also THE point that people ignore when they talk about the cost of education per student in private schools compared to public schools. One final point; there is absolutely no accountability in place for how voucher schools spend those tax dollars; whereas every penny has to be accounted for in public school districts.

If you were not offended, why even mention it? lol But a simple search of the word in this forum produces these examples..... And out of 23 appearances of that word, I use it 4 times; yet you somehow not being offended, choose to bring it up now?? lol

Yes, in the form of vouchers.

That was the same standard in Indiana, but now the 15 minute standard can include cumulative time, and not just be one 15 minute segment.

It has been for some time....but you just choose now to be offended snowflake? No one is forcing you to stay snowflake. BS...and it had NOTHING to do with the topic....I knew you would spin it. Important to note too, since you are overly sensitive about my role here, I have never removed one of those posts or lock3d topics here in the OOB. In fact, I would say you have had free reign here, just like every other poster....so much for the partisan for the left bs. But keep spinning.......snowflake

And I suppose this was a sign outside the Michigan City Football locker room???? Noooo? And your post about where you work had exactly what to do with high school football? Or even more specifically, the topic of Michigan City Football? The non fake news answer would be absolutely nothing; but I am sure you have some kind of spin. Ohhhh look; more about Michigan City football......hmmmm

Sooooo, Howie.....just went and looked at the last thread. Go ahead and explain how this post from you is specifically about high school football, or the specific topic of Michigan City Football. While you are at it, please tell us how it is not a political post. Still fake news???? Liar

Complete bull shit, but keep telling yourself that. Every single topic that was locked ventured off the topic of high school football...plain and simple. It’s really not a difficult concept to understand. Call it fake news all you want,but here yoU are posting it yourself.......and remaining here. No one is forcing you to stay.

Stop making everything about you. You whined about locked threads on the main forum. It has been stated VERY clearly when the conversation gets political and not about football, it gets locked. It does not matter who takes the conversation there.

It was not any run of the mill root beer. Sprecher's is top shelf 😄 I usually drink it with water or straight though. BC would at leaast approve of some RC Cola in it 😄 Doing well, thank you; hope you are too Raider.

I never said they were made by you specifically in my reply...I was speaking in general terms, but you were the one here whining about topics being locked, and I simply gave an explanation why the ones you referred to were locked. .......don't be such a snowflake.

Yep...I agree...just wanted to further your point.

I agree....the question does pertain directly to the impact on teams. Now, if we start seeing Fauci memes, national stats, infection rates, etc., then yeah, it will be moved.

It is also an apples and oranges comparison. The basketball tournament has multiple teams playing at the same site on the same nights, so crowds coming from multiple communities along with teams made it necessary to cancel. Plus, we knew very little at that time. We now know in football the steps necessary to minimize the impact as much as possible. Only one game a night and with smaller crowds outside is a lot different than neutral site gyms with multiple teams and multiple sets of fans.

Had a couple roaring fires going over the weekend myself. Instead of Makers though, Jameson and root beer....too many of those actually 😀

How much more transparent do moderators need to be when saying multiple times on locked topics, stay on the topic and do not make political posts on the main forum?