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I would suspect that the reason is mainly the reason why you see folks pushing back on a statement that no PPs should be allowed to play 1A in Indiana. In Texas, if a PP plays in UIL, the biggest obstacle is that they usually can't be eligible for play in TAPPS or SPC. The main reason that that often occurs is due to size ... being too big for TAPPS which is why you see Dallas Jesuit and Strake Jesuit in UIL. The other component to being in UIL is, if you are PP, there's an automatic bump in class. As such, the only PP 2As that you would see in UIL would actually be 1A PPs that didn't qualify for TAPPS or SPC ... 2A PPs would have to play in 3A. I don't recall TAPPS cutoffs, but if they are similar to UIL, you're talking about a school that has enrollment no larger than 104 students having to automatically compete in 2A if they are PP and playing UIL. At 104 and 50% boys, you'd need 50% participation just to get 26 kids on a team and then have to play up to 2A. If you are a 1A PP school, you would have 40+ other PP schools to compete against with similar size in TAPPS or have to play up in 2A in UIL. With those options, it doesn't surprise me at all that you don't see any 2A PPs in UIL.

So it seems like SA will be the favorite in the North until someone proves otherwise. BTW, completely off-topic ... I thought about your post the other day while watching football over the weekend. I'm not even sure what game it was as I just had ESPN 3 on all day because the Aggies would be play, but I thought I saw a kid with the same spelling as Schoch and the commentators pronounced it correctly. Probably would have never registered on my radar screen if not for you previous post. So thanks for passing along that pronunciation tip ... you helped me learn something else. 🙂

I was referring to 6A since the article was about the biggest schools. In 6A Texas, the division isn't set until the teams have qualified for post-season play. you are correct though that, for the lower divisions, 1A-5A, they are split at the time of classification. In Indiana, the issue of divisions usually only comes up in two contexts: PP and public ... which really is more about different leagues than divisions 6A Occasionally there is some discussion about the fact that, in Indiana, there's actually more of an impactful gap between the top and bottom of 1A than there is in 6A, but that rarely gets more than a couple of posts attention at best compared to the other two discussions of division/leagues. I think @Irishman also alluded to the gap in 1A above a few posts up.

Yeah, he was pretty good. They did seem to have some other engines on that team too, but I have no idea at all whether they were also seniors or not. I guess the question with the QB issue in mind is, while the QB will be hard to replace, is the guy coming in to "fill his shoes" closer to 80% or 50%. If it's the former and those other engines return, I think SA does well. If it's closer to 50%, as you state it could mean that he's not really going to be a replacement.

TPCS has made it to a sectional championship for the past three seasons albeit they were derailed by COVID this year. The previous season they lost to LCC and the season before they dropped the championship to South Putnam.

I think it all hinges on SA. Hopefully someone from there can give us a little insight. If they are reloading, I'd take SA to repeat in 1A North. If they are rebuilding, then I think 1A North is wide open ... especially with a couple others that have been in the mix in the past like 'busco moving up. One that I did forget, and this is going to depend on overall top of 1A enrollment and bottom of 2A enrollment, is that Seeger could move down. If Seeger moves down to 1A, I think they might definitely make waves in 1A North.

So proud of Wade Hardebeck from LCC making this list! When I coached him as a youth player he was a big kid that was just trying to figure it all out. He struggled with stances and getting out of a stance, shedding blocks on defense, and even balance and controlling his frame. Easily became winded in sprints. But he stuck with it and as he moved up through the youth program, you could see him absorbing the knowledge and getting better. Started working on technique in junior high and early high school and finally put it all together. He could have easily given up, but he loved the game and stuck with it. So very happy for him to earn this honor!

Thanks Coach!

In 2A, I'm curious to see what Pioneer brings back. I know they are 1A making their second time through the 2A ranks and I think they will lose the Lewellyns ... which will be huge given that Ezra was selected to the Indiana Top 50. Only one other 1A kid, Miller from SA, made that list. Pioneer gave Luers all they could handle this time around. Wondering about Covenant Christian. They are going to lose over 25% of their team to graduation. They had a mix of younger players when you realize that under 15% of that team was classified as junior. Was the strength of the team focused in the seniors or more evenly spread across the team? TPCS had a pretty strong senior class in 2019, but had significant dropoff in 2020. I think Lutheran could make the run this season for LOS. LCC and Pioneer will be in 2A and I think enrollment with put AC there as well, so outside of what SA returns, it might be closer to an open horse-race in 1A North. LCC will be in 2A.

Some say potato ... some say abandoned lot.

Some aren't quite as helpful, but they will ask about your mom. 😃

Private schools can compete in UIL in Texas, but they have to be accredited by the TPSAC and also be ineligible for other organizations like TAPPS or SPC ... usually due to their size. If they do play in UIL, they play up a level from classification. As for prestige, part of it is a numbers thing as there are close to 1,300 schools in UIL and only around 250 in TAPPS. Sheer numbers dictate coverage in media and other places. Also, familiarity is less with segregated leagues. Like you said, there are some very good schools in TAPPS, but the PPs that get a lot more attention are like Jesuit in Dallas and Strake out of Houston which play UIL ball in the 6A class. The mix in teams in Indiana creates familiarity which makes it very easy to compare public and private performance. If you split them, eventually over time you'd end up with a lot of "mythical state championship matches" ... no way to see them but plenty of arguments with little basis.

That's a lot of shrinkage in just a 2-year cycle. The were 343 last classification cycle when they dropped down to 1A and about 248 in 2013-2014.

The big problem with that is that it isn't a set grouping. The divisions are only determined at the time of the the playoff qualifications. Texas takes the top four teams in a district to go on to the playoffs. The two with the largest enrollment go in the "big division" and the other two go in the "small division" for the class. You could end up with the four smallest teams in one district qualifying for the playoff. The two largest of those smallest would go in the "big division" and the other two would go in the "small division." The only two knowns are that the top two teams by enrollment in a dividsion would go big and the two smallest would go small if they qualify. Outside of that, the third-largest team in a district could go big or small depending on where they qualify out of the district.

That's why I put recruiting in quotes. I know that they aren't even if others think they might be. Like I said, even if they were, Catholics would be a hard crowd to get them to pay tuition for a non-Catholic education if there's a Catholic option in play. Matter of fact, public schools have more success recruiting Catholics than non-Catholic PPs probably do.

True, but being Catholic, you know that Catholics tend to gravitate to Catholic schools when given the option between Christian schools and Catholic schools ... when there's an all-in situation. I'd suspect that more of what you might be seeing from CC coaches in the stands is scouting rather than recruiting.

He ended up going football and baseball this year after Coach Clouse suggested he look at football. He's definitely happy with football and he's definitely doing baseball, but he's talked about going out for soccer again next season. My guess is he's going to be so tied up with the demands of football and baseball year-round that he's going to limit himself to just the two sports; especially with the demands of summer baseball.

I'd wonder how success they'd be "recruiting" at CYOs? If you're at a CYO and going to a private school, you are likely considering Chatard, Guerin, Roncalli, and even though they aren't technically archdiocese schools, Brebeuf and Cathedral.

Don't count in your mind. I made a statement. As typically tends to happen when you are ranting against the government and trying to make a point, you made an assumption that was incorrect. Actually, a couple of the coaches have asked my son about other positions that he plays given that he's currently about 180 lbs. He's also interested in the linebackers since he's played that before. He's played fullback before, but I'm not sure that he'll get big enough given the size of a couple of other kids that are there ... although he does have a low center of gravity and pretty quick feet from his soccer time. He's starting a bit of weight training for baseball now, so I'll be interested in seeing how big he gets by summer.

I'm not a golfer, but is there a way to directly donate to the foundation in some way?

Pretty good stretch. There's a minimum of one player of the freshman squad who plays both Harrison soccer and football and Coach Clouse suggested that my son also check out the football team too because of his size and his leg. Not sure how you get hate when the school's soccer coach is working with his players to support other programs within the school.

By all means, show me how the statement below, which uses current numbers, is talking about the future? As for the past, I already said this, which is not the past but the current, just like your SES mic drop numbers ... Where have I stated instead?

As much as you seem to think you know about Harrison, apparently you don't know jack. Coach Clouse is Harrison's head soccer coach and has been for a while including Harrison's 2017 state title. He also played his high school ball at Harrison too.