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Ok...have fun. What are your "Mount Rushmores" of Indiana High School football. This could be anything from stadiums to broadcasters to GID posters to concessions to coaches to programs to tailgating to whatever. Have fun. Thanks to the "Top 25" thread for inspiration.
Mount Rushmore of Ben Davis Football Coaches
Dick Dullaghan
Mike Kirschner
Lou Parnell
Bob Wilbur
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https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/high_schools.cgi?hs_state=IN
Pro Football Reference is so awesome.
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An interesting question would be a "Mount Rushmore" of Indiana High School Football Programs. That could get dicey!
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23 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:
Thank You long time member @BDGiant93 for becoming a Booster !!
Thank YOU and sorry it took me so long this year.
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7 hours ago, FridayNightLights said:
Off the top of my head
Ben Davis- Tandon Doss, Marqueis Gray
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Corey Harris, Morten Andersen, DaMarcus Ganaway (believe was on the Jets practice squad), Mark Shupe
Morten, Corey, and Tandon all were on Super Bowl rosters.
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On 12/5/2019 at 12:33 AM, JustRules said:
I do know the Lawrence Township schools are very happy and very much a part of the MIC. They have no interest in looking at any other conference.
This has no bearing on any discussion with DT. He's the spaghetti man of the GID...throw something against the wall and see if it sticks.
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What about K.C. Woods from Danville?
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2 minutes ago, Temptation said:
I'm not sure Jeff to Fishers is an upgrade but am willing to be convinced...
1) HCC job
2) State Championship (2010)
3) Growing Population
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Kizer was a worthy pick last year though the right pick would have been Bell, imo. There's no race like that this year. It's Spegal.
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4 hours ago, Knightmare said:
Here's a list of coaches I think would be great hires for Fishers:
Pat Shanley, Laff Jeff - Would like to see his high powered offense at Fishers. Young coach, who could bring a spark to the program.
Coach Shanley would be a perfect fit at Fishers if he wants it. It is a great job opening, and that area continues to explode in growth. I wonder if they will split into a third high school at some point?
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19 hours ago, BTF said:
Easy for you to poke fun at the idea as a fan of Ben Davis.................the second largest school in the state with 4500 students. What would happen if Snider, Valpo, Merrillville, Zionsville, Avon, Center Grove, and Laffayette Jeff had 4500 students? The Giants stronghold on 6a would come to an end. But those schools don't have those numbers, so I guess Ben Davis can continue to add to their trophy case and thump their chest claiming "were the greatest."
It was tongue in cheek and not meant seriously at all. I have nothing but respect for Snider. Seth Ziegel man...Seth Ziegel.
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1 minute ago, Temptation said:
BD was a different place back then my friend...
I grew up in Farley.
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1 minute ago, Temptation said:
The answer is hidden in my response.
Jimmy’s and Joe’s with supportive home lives makes all the difference.
Noblesville has neither compared to the teams it is asked to compete with week in and week out.
But here's the other side of that. Prior to 1980, Ben Davis' record was 140-240 with 10 total winning seasons. Since, the Giants are 359-127. Someone changed that culture permanently.
Just now, BDGiant93 said:And I should give Bob Wilbur his props too. From 1973-1983, he went 59-53 and led the Giants to the 1977 Final Four (he beat Dullaghan in the Sectional).
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5 minutes ago, Temptation said:
Culture is important but PLAYERS and the right atmosphere/environment matters.
Look at Noblesville. More specifically, look at Noblesville’s SES profile compared to the teams they face in their conference/county.
Its been a burial ground for great coaches. Schieb could not win there after a successful run at FC. Rosen could not win there after a successful run at East Central. Your boy Jason Simmons seems to be finding his way at BD, but couldn’t win at Noblesville. They all had (have in Simmons’ case) built a culture and had great leadership elsewhere so why didn’t things work out at Noblesville?
I've not talked in depth about it with Coach Simmons.
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Hats off to Coach Wimmer. Built that Fishers program from scratch.
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Just now, Temptation said:
How many years of “building” until they are a legitimate threat to BD for the sectional assuming the alignment remained the same?
I won't lie. Several, but could Perry be a competitive team in the Mid-State? Could Tech win the NCC? Sure. If we're setting the level at elite status...well...you're right.
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Just now, Temptation said:
No doubt and while I agree, you can only do so much with the hand you are dealt.
Ill go ahead and ask it as I do not fear offending folks. Drop Kyle Ralph or Eric Moore in at Perry Meridian or Arsenal Tech tomorrow; how’s that working out?
Well, Kevin Wright took a serious look at Tech supposedly once upon a time. I believe that's when Dr. White was going to make Tech the only football program in IPS if I remember correctly. I think Coach Moore would win any where he goes. It might take him a while. The kids would gravitate to him. Perry hasn't always been a doormat. While that program has struggled in recent history, Craig Barr had some good years, and the program had some very solid seasons in the 1970's and 80's under Steve Purichia and others.
We're kind of seeing what happens when a great coach goes in there on the basketball side. Mark James took BD's boys basketball program and turned them from bad to mediocre into state champs in six years. Perry is moving in a positive direction right now with him down there.
To answer your question, I think they would struggle early, but I think they also know how to build programs...especially in Moore's case.
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Hire makes perfect sense. Hopefully he can have the kind of success that his father had there with the Wildkats!
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He has no reason to leave unless it's for a college opportunity. The grass isn't always greener on that side of the fence, though.
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BD has the two I always wanted to see get on the schedule with Avon and Brownsburg. I miss the old Westside rivalry with Decatur Central, but that's probably done.
I'll go with St. Xavier because I don't think BD gave a very good account of itself in Cincinnati the last time around and Penn because I miss that old BD/Penn rivalry game.
2 hours ago, Bears62 said:Speaking on next year, I would love to see some of the Lafayette schools play bigger opponents. West Lafayette vs a lower tier HCC school like Franklin Central or Noblesville would be a good matchup. Lafayette Jeff vs a “rebuilding” (using that term cautiously) New Pal would be very interesting. WL Harrison vs a school like Gibson Southern or Brebeuf would be a great challenge for them.
If Jeff has a week 2 opening, so does Carmel.
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1) Supportive administration and community
2) Strong work ethic
3) Big toolkit in dealing with a wide variety of young people
4) Holding everyone in the program accountable
5) Excellent reflection and innovation skills
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41 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:
leadership and culture go a long way.
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34 minutes ago, DT said:
Basketball games are easy to schedule.
BD still has a game open. Anyone want to play them? Contact John Clark.
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Bhss coach Moriarity retiring.
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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Congratulations on a great career!