Coach Nowlin

Exactly, PASSIONATELY debated, not just for a few days, YEARS of the Roncalli 4 year run followed by the LCC run but it didn't derail to was non stop report pushing personal shots flying toward people, challenge the message you bet, challenge the person behind the message rather then the message itself is just the opposite of intelltucally stimulation you referred to

So no actual calendar yearly timeframe then? What meagurement are you using to define "upward growth" Wins? is that the only meagurement ? GM Sparty its April of 2024, you are #1 on the clock, you have the #1 and #9 picks, I will trust that you are going to tell me what you are going to do with those picks plus understanding that youre overall draft capitol is very poor in rounds 3-7, what are doing with the draft? While doing so, try to do it without the knowing what the last 18 weeks just looked like. What Free Agent OL are you signing that Poles didn't ? I will hang up and listen. my take below on OL woes. ( Davis, Bates were signed to help fix the glaring need of OL, sadly, Davis flaked out with whatever is going on with his personal life and hoodwinked Bears brass, great work by his agent btw, in giving him that contract, Poles was impatient on getting Bates who Bills were most likely going to cut, then you could of snagged him, but he was hurt all year, so didn't see what he could or could not do, so he DID try to address it but wasn't the TOP priority it seems with the lminited draft capitol he had to work with).

Ok, literally just saw all of this, never clicked this thread over my Xmas break where I didn't turn on my laptop for about 10 days (glorious btw to unplug). Now it makes more sense from the NFL/College tone that I did see way before this, now it makes sense on how and why some of those tones were being taken in there based on these back and forth. Gotcha. Believe it or not, the "Leadership Team" does not poke around every thread, now back in my hey day of being on here like many of you known, workin the computer lab, yes, I literally read EVERYTHING on EVERY FORUM we had, you know long 8 hours in credit recovery, but I digress. I will take blame on DONATIONS here, this was something that again, when I was in the lab, was really good at doing what @BTF mentioned on a a post in this thread, making a general Topic post/thread, and keeping that alive vs posting links in other threads that are "hot". for donations. Though I have done that previously, but in different manner. I did create what @foxbat referred to back in the day on bets being taken but for donations to GID. I can speak on this, I joined day 1, 1998/99, computer lab, Purdue, when the threads would just fall off and disappear, not many of us left who remember the 1st tech of GID under the leadership of Coach Tim Adams and his vision of what he wanted this site to be: #1 place in Indiana to come together to talk and PROMOTE (that was huge for TA) Indiana High School Teams, Players, Coaches. His pet project he started when he was coaching quickly turned to full time passion, gave up coaching, led this into the mid 00's and its boom if you will. There was some real real knock down drag out discussion that TA led with many many great posters, some still here today, like @Muda69 and REBEL DAD, now @Rodney, that was POPCORN stuff right there. Temp, you have no idea what it was like for Muda and others vs THE HORDE, you talk about the gain mentality here now, my goodness, that was something quite wild compared to these days, but here was the major differences, folks attacked policies, opinions of the member, not the member, TA was VERY much a non negotiable on that. TA was as deep man of Faith as well, him and his wife @Mrs Gridirondigest were very much a proponent of the simple rule of thumb of language that gets you a 15 yard penalty shouldn't be used here, now that has been loosened up quite a bit around these parts these, days, but on this main forum, the main HS led forum, we try to keep it to that original manta by TA. Message boards when this place was born was all the rave, this was before MYSPACE even, then social media which this website is a form of communication, but not sure its considered a social media site per se, but now Social Media in 2025 rules the day, Facebook, X, Tok Tik (I do it on purpose, it bothers my teenage daughter and I think its funny) Instagram, these sites are now ingrained into the every day lives of humans WORLD WIDE. Message boards are not, so having a football Facebook page with 19k, followers isn't not quite the flex I think you think it is, 2 completely separate modes of media information sharing and as stated Facebook for MANY is daily routine (I have not own one of those pages however but do however choose other like X for instance, give me a follow @Eric Nowlin if you want all the OUTRUNNERS and TURBO FLOYD smoke you can handle) @temptation you probably are not aware, this site was so big and popular, Coach Adams turned out a real nice chunk of change to sell out the site and its membership to Rivals who wanted to take it and put it under their umbrella, he resisted the urge to get paid for his work to keep his Mission alive, a common place for fans of Indiana high school football to come and discuss, banter, about the greatest sport there is Football. Instead, TA ended up working for Rivals as a correspondent. Coach Adams used to have meet up at the State finals with his community members willing to stop by and say hello to him, with his GID hat on !!! Famous picture out there of @DK_Barons @77Jimmie (the 1st 2 Moderators under the Adams Days) all discussing the big plans for this place with Wings and Beverages flowing. @Bobref and Coach Adams would meet many times because Bob was pretty brave at the time to step out, be open about his role within the sport of football with the hope to educate, promote the game from the Officials lens, you got to understand what this was like in 2004-2008 ish, that was not normal, that made many coaches uneasy as Bob took unnecessary heat from coaches who somehow were parnoid on this internet machine thing back 20 plus years ago, and all that. BINGO, Thanks my Friend, hope to meet up at Walts again one day........ See above, and the Reasoning behind that standard. See above, exactly and I will take blame here, I will be better in the future on this role Now what is REAL REAL FUNNY, a blast from the WAY past machine, maybe about 5 or 6 years ago, maybe longer, we had a very interesting member here, coach, went about attempting to earn HC jobs in a unqiue way, anyways, he wasn't a booster and he was complaining about ADS pulling on on this site and I believe Porn and other type of sedacious ADs, well what he didn't understand was @DK_Barons area of expertise and whatver does to set this palce up, when you don't donate, cool, here some ads, right, the ADS are through your persona algo that the interent tracks you with, so if you spend all your time lets say searching and reading about bicycles, the AD you would see would be BIKE RELATED topics, etc. you know I think most now in 2025 understand the ALGO and your internet history and what it does, but man was that FUNNY as all get out when DK publiclly told him how it went and why he was getting those type of ads. I know that was VERY LONG messages but just felt like wanted to shed light on things, I enjoy this place, I enjoy its mission, I have tried to be fair and just in situations that come our way with decisions made on "report button" or our own moderations we see. It saddens me to see this community is 2k short still on the year, like I said, I will take blame, I will be better on that moving forward into next year, I appreciate everyone who chooses to participate in our community, do I wish some of you would just know when to stop the drama, sure, is it annoying babystting adults at times,, you bet it is, but I just hope we all understand the WHY you should be here and live up to some of what Coach Tim Adams wanted this place to be. @gonzoron I appolgize for what I woud assume is multitude of grammer and spellin errers.

What is your opinion on the time frame that you feel comfortable and given general managers in the NFL and turning things around? Poles put together a good enough team to win games and become a playoff hunt team this year Unfortunately lack of coaching and player decision making under the guise of a legit HC in Eberflus era which he hoodwinked me to. I admit it. I thought the way they finished the year last year was a thing to come and they got off to a good start this year being four and two. Then Washington happened...... But you put the stats of all the GMs. You're clearly making it a point that Poles should be fired because he has a bad record Was it Poles fault that #29 I don't even want to say his name, thought it was more important. Talk to the crowd of Washington instead of playing the game? Was it poles fault that the head coach decided to let Washington have a free 8:00 to 9, 10 yd or whatever it was before they chucked it down in the end zone? Oh I know. It had to be Poles fault fault as well. When a poorly executed field goal attempt at home versus Green Bay was tipped and blocked and another game was taken away from the win column..... Yeah that was definitely the general manager's fault....... So I will ask you again like I did earlier above. What is realistic expectation for a NFL general manager to provide a successful team? On that note is San Francisco and their franchise and organization terrible now? I mean they just only won six games. That's exactly one more game than the Chicago Bears. You know the same team that went to the Super Bowl last year SF won 6 , Bears won 5. Must be a terrible general manager and head coach in San Francisco that led to that demise. Can't be anything other than that right? Or maybe this is how the NFL is made to be set up as the schedule, the organization and how you can't just build super teams and great players have to be moved because there's not enough money. Go around when you build it develop wonderfully. See the Kansas City Chiefs and then letting Tyreek Hill go as one example.

That's why I feel confident that I've been around enough that I don't need to read and watch anything on mainstream Sports television to form an opinion like this as well It's all noise and I agree wholeheartedly on your statement there

right on I appreciate Bears putting together a nice list to try to find their guy, Vrabel has to be interviewed, just like Harbaugh HAD to but Warren and his relationship, (Led by Warren) didn't allow such things. UGH No different the Whitesox who put together a package for the newest Asian pitching phenom, just like Cubs,Yankes, et. al. At least they tried instead of assuming it was not going to happen. I can respect that at least, even if you think Vrabel is a waste of time.

What exactly is a waste ? Also. The lack of direction by Billionaire owners is kind boggling. Enter Tennessee

Concur And supposedly that's what I was reading about these billionaires who want to start buying into 51% of college teams to run it and invest their money that they make as a 50% shareholder into improving other facets of the University in their programs Because most of these places are got different tax codes based on how they are. You know state funded or other universities they sell off 51% of let's say IU football to Mark Cuban. Then he could then take his profits and then reinvest it into the university how he seems fit with different text codes

@temptation Didn't know you were WRASSLIN fan BTW. Love that sign made it to LA of all places

I believe in the NFL GM position is 7-8 year scope before full judgements can be made. No GM is going to have a hit rate that is near perfect, and most have more misses than hits. The "hits: in rounds 4-7 are so low across the league. Blind love for the team sure, but I have also been critical when warranted throughout. I believe Poles was hamstrung with Ted Phillips early, takes time to reshape whatever that pile looked like post Pace era. Make no mistake, the next 2-3 years will determine if it was wise to keep him through this next HC change or he doesn't have the chops for this gig long term. I believe he does, I like his process, I do not make emotional responses to 1 loss or 1 bad decisions like the local AM radio does to get clicks and listens and definitely do not invest time ingesting any national media 'takes' I also have stated that his plan all along last year was to get QB he thought was best, CW, surround him with playmakers, signing Swift ( I think he had a good year with bad scheme) drafting Rome, trading for Allen. This was the offseason for the OL/DL in my opinion based on the long term trajectory of how it has all shook out.

One thing I would LOVE to see is some of these highest earners and their academic course load they are taking on. Agree on the idea of if you make more money in a year than the value of the scholarship you have been granted, that there should be some sort of recalibration Isn't there a hard 85 rule now?

Please expound on that statement? Clearly, Bears are poor in that category, Packers I would say is opposite of that, I would look at Jerry Jones as one of the better owners it seems, You think all 3 places McCarthy has been have been void of real GM and Owner? As in non family member?? Don't know enough of his time in Packers with org structure

If that is the case, then 4 days has passed and he remains a Bulldog

the tone seem to indicate you thought Vrabel wouldn't fit in Chicago with Rees because of style not because he was snatch up by Pats I think Vrabel and Pats are match yes, so don't think Bears can seal the deal there, but they get to interview him this week!

well, you really think Pittsburgh would even grant Bears the request to interview him #1, number 2, why would Tomlin want to leave? Speaking of McCarthy, check this out , like I said above, McMarthy is WAY better than last 4 they hired since Love

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ENOUGH congratulations Done Locked see if the next one that gets started can actually stay on course

why not in Chicago?

List goes on: John Harbaugh Jim Harbaugh Mike Tomlin Bill Belicheck Andy Reid

Give me LEADER OF MEN Love the idea of Vrabel and Rees combo

I like the OVER 45.5 ND 31 Penn St. 28 haven't got a feeling on other game Too much money, don't see it, but I do see this happening down the road in next 10 years or less a full divorce from NCAA of the P4 and a 2 tier system, like DIVISION 1A, where its the power 4 playing for the opportunity to make the playoffs, wether 12 team or 16, but most make sense to get to 24, like the current FCS model. HUGE obstacle is imbalance of schedules, fact SEC refuses to play more than 8 "conference" schools, then whines when Big 10 who plays 9, has more teams in the playoffs. Strength of Schedule needs to be completely wiped off any formula for seeding. Everyone plays 12 games amongst the power 4 leagues/divisions. Set it up just like NFL does, with quadrants perhaps or pools to win that gets into the seeds, etc. Folks, this is pro football now, can't act like its the Reggie Bush era Yes, if you see above Love the idea of reseeding no matter how many teams are in the playoffs, 12, 16, 24 etc BTW: FCS championship game is tonight

McMarthy would be better than last 4 guys they hired, just sayin, Vrabel is being tied with Tommy Rees as OC in New England according to my source in Boston who follows along quite a bit Kaftka would be personally GREAT for me, a very good friend is very friendly with Coach Kaftka....oh yeah.....that would be clutch, oh that reminds me, @temptation, you be a good boy in 2025, I know the DL coach who just finished year 1 in Michigan this past year, former SJC HC, I maybe able to get you a few blades of grass from THE BIG HOUSE for your collection of Wolverine swag. 🙂 I still trust Poles, I understand the magnitude of each move in the NFL especially the Chicago Bears market, I am far more patient then others on this, I believe he is the right guy, but moreso, I BELIEVE that NON STOP CHANGE is very unhealthy that is why I envy the Rooney's and Pittsburgh Organization, my #2 in my heart of the NFL.

Agree on top sentence TRIPLE AGREE on 2nd statement, but the question is who has the discipline to stop? Who has the will power to let the other get the last word....... 3rd question, looks like Irish, took care of ya Seriously, appreciate the donation!! Happy New Year

He 100% withdrew Entered the 9th, Got the bag he wanted W'd the 10th

Good, now that we are squared, have you seen the link for donation page? https://gridirondigest.net/clients/donations/ on the entire website..... NO CHANCE Hilarious again, you say, it's not worth going around and around. but YET..... that's all you literally do with some other members here..... round and round thread to thread......rinse repeat. but its not "worth" going around around.....getting nowhere..... NOW YOU ARE STARTING TO SEE THE LIGHT SON !!!!

HILARIOUS My god, you were that bent out of shape because of that.....jeeze..... Simple message could of solved that ...... Can't tell you last time that moderator was on the board.......pops up here and there