BTF

Paul Hornung all the way.

I guess I have a presumption, but to be fair, I'll have to look into it further. I don't remember the story to be honest.

Do you have evidence of this? I don't ever remember Luers having a 3A enrollment until recently. A school built on a foundation of God manipulating enrollment numbers for the sake of winning championships would be really bad if that were true. But I don't think it is.

I think you have to give the losing fan base a couple of hours to vent first. They might go through that "I hope they lose in the next round" phase for a few hours. Give it 24 hours though, and the IU and Notre Dame contingents will once again unite. Most fans root for a team from their general area. For me, it's the state of Indiana first, Big Ten second. I hopped on the Michigan bandwaggon in the playoffs, certainly not wanting to see another SEC champion. Jumping on nearby bandwagons is normal.

Imagine living 15 miles from the Ohio boarder and having to see people wearing Ohio gear everywhere. I swear people in Ohio wear that stuff on purpose everytime they come to Fort Wayne to shop.

Good stuff, thanks for that history lesson! But certainly the push isn't to replace Hoosiers with Bisons? That'll never happen, so good luck and God power on that one. I don't think I've ever been to Nick's, it's been awhile since I've been to Bloomington. But I'm open to suggestions as I might be heading down there for a weekend trip sometime soon.

Confused about the the buffalo. Is this Colorado or IU?

Well, the three best coaches are at Westfield, Center Grove, and Brownsburg. But there's no way those guys are leaving where they're at to go to Warren Central. Kevin Wright would be the man, but I think he was solidified at Carmel before Kirschner stepped down. Maybe Jason West hoping for a gig with richer resources? Scott Turnquist? Mike Brevard? Yeah, not being an Indy guy, those are my first three calls. How'd I do?

Who?

That's about all the credit he deserves. Let's be honest, he wasn't really the guy IU wanted. There didn't seem to be much backup plan after Stevens. How do you tell an IU legend like Woodson "no"? You don't. You give him Fife as an assistant and Matta as the head of basketball operations. Both only lasted a year. Now you're left with an NBA guy with little college coaching experience. I'm thinking this is his last season. They're not even fun to watch. Gimmie Butler and Purdue............now that's good basketball.

And Purdue still owns IU in basketball. How pitiful.

North Side dropping to 4A could be interesting. Never been to the state finals, that could change.

I think Warren Central is one of those programs that a proven coordinator can succeed at. The pipeline of athletes there is so strong it would be pretty hard to fail in my opinion. If I were building a program, I'd go after someone with head coaching success. Warren Central already has a solid foundation and the bones are pretty strong.

Fail. Try that again.

You wouldn't be you if you didn't throw that in there, lol. The winner of the Heisman is given to a "student" athlete. I would say the athlete should be a student if given the award. But a freshman over a senior. Gimmie a break, that should NEVER happen.

Yes, although she wasn't real, he was certainly committed and a good boyfriend :).

The biggest travesty in the history of the Heisman was Johnny Manziel winning over Manti Teo. You had a well deserving devensive player, a senior, great student, and campus leader up against a freshman quartback who epitimized everything that a student athlete wasn't.

This playoff is a crapshoot. I think most people have Oregon, Georgia, Texas, and Ohio State as the four favorites. Maybe I'm biased, but I think Notre Dame is right there with that group. But I get it. Quality wins should account for something.

High of 33 on Friday with a chance of snow. I'm sure it'll be in the 20's by the time the game is over.

You're sick, gross, plain and simple. You're buddy @gonzoron is no better. Tim Adams woudl have shut this thread down the minute my words were edited with your sick perverted words. Then don't talk to me about donations clown.

You're an absolute travesty to this forum. Tim Adams would be ashamed.

It's your approach and the fact that you isolated three posters. In the future, you'll be better served sending PM's. If you're going to do it publicly, then start a new topic and pose the question to the masses, not just three. That's an attack. As an administer, you're in a leadership role. Lead. I shouldn't have to teach you how to do it. Just do it right. Do it fair. Do it respectfully.

Not sure what that is, but it sounds pretty sick. Editing my post without my permission is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Just sayin.

Honestly, I think the "we're better now than at the beginning of the season" excuse is overrated. I just like to give you a hard time about it since you stated that Snider was better served playing Warren Central at the beginning of the season. More times than not, if a team loses to a good team at the beginning of the season, they suffer the same fate at the end. I'm not sure how much better a team really is from Week 1 to Week 10. Throw Northern Illiniois out the window. The beginning of the season had nothing to do with that loss. They lost that game because they played it half asleep coming off their big win over A&M. Did I say IU played their worst game of the season against Ohio State? I believe Cignetti stated that, maybe I defended him. Normally when you play bad it's because the team you're playing caused some sort of disruption. The only thing I think IU could have done better against Ohio State is special teams. Wouldnt' have mattered in the end, either way, the Buckeyes were winning that game. It just may have been closer. Also not sure how Rourke's thumb injury affected his play.

A&M on the road? C'mon. That's a good win. Who said that?