BTF

The reason I asked? Because I had no idea where Whiteland was. Quite frankly I had no idea where Decatur Central was. Originally I didn't think Indy had any representation in 5A this year. Now it appears they have two. Calling yourself state champs is a little sweeter when you can say you went through Indianapolis to get there. 

I want to say there is about 15 minutes of driving through cornfields to get from Fort Wayne to Belmont. So no, I don't consider Belmont a Fort Wayne Area school. Outside of the SAC, I'd consider New Haven (obviously), Leo, Heritage, and Woodlan, Fort Wayne area. That's about it. 

16 hours ago, Warren05 said:

Whiteland #1 in 5A is so awsome to see

Looks like another representative from Indy. Never really looked into their location before. 

16 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said:

Play nice, everyone.

Telling someone not to respond to your posts is an overreaction. Yuccaguy is an outstanding contributor to this forum who's opinions are as appreciated. We as fans do battle, but at the end of the day we all share the same passion for the greatest game at the greatest level. 

That being said, I have Westfield and Carroll on a level playing field right now after further review. There's something to be said for the Rocks in beating Lawrence Central by a wider margin than HSE did. Carroll/Westfield would be a barnburner in my opinion. I still don't think it will come into fruition though. I think it will be Carmel, HSE, or fishers to represent the area at Semi-State. And Carroll will have their hands full with Penn and Crown Point. No offense to any of the great teams not mentioned. The northern bracket of 6A will be exciting to say the least. 

18 minutes ago, BTF said:

Do me a favor and don't respond to any of my posts. You and I aren't even on the same planet. 

 

Just one more thing before you and I part ways................

BTF 8-21-22

I'm not ready to anoint them as a Top 10 team after beating up on a 2a team devastated by graduation and transfers

Yuccaguy 8-21-22

Carroll is NO JOKE!

As for Carroll.  This may be THE team that can compete well into the Semi-State from the FW Area in 6A that those in NE Indiana have been waiting for.

great year for the quality of FB in FW as far as I am concerned. 

I am positive that they (CHS) are a TOP TEN team in that classification, easily. 

Summary: You have Carroll in your Top 10 "easily." I don't have them in my Top 10 at all. But to appease you, I'll "stop being so LOCAL in my deference to things."

15 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said:

It was in 2021.  With an injured/depleted Westfield on the road at Carroll.   

Again.  Just get through Sectional #2 (Carroll) and let the chips fall.  Stop being so LOCAL in your deference to things!  We have a long way to go in FW at the 6A level.   2023 and beyond will solve/settle things EARLY.  

Do me a favor and don't respond to any of my posts. You and I aren't even on the same planet. 

5 minutes ago, MonkeyButt said:

Yeah probably not. It will be Carmel if I am correct that Carmel is in the north this year.

The Carroll/Westfield debate will never be settled.

2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

He completely gave up in the 4th quarter of his second game. How is that anything but alarming? You play the #2 team in the country to a near draw for 3 quarters and then just throw in the white flag to preserve your potential end of the year resume? Coward football and I 100% stand by that. 

Well there ya go then. Enjoy the Clemson/GT game.

4 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Brian Kelly will win a national championship at LSU before Marcus Freeman does at Notre Dame. 

Debatable. But let's rest for a bit.

1 minute ago, Footballking16 said:

I’m not the one boasting about “only losing by 11 points to the #2 team in the country on prime time TV”, that’s you my friend.

And I’m certainly not the one excusing the coach calling such a chicken sh*t 4th quarter for the team I root for. Again, that’s you my friend.

ND is 0-2 under Freeman and has been absolutely schooled in the second half in both contests. 

Boasting or defensive of the "coward" accusation?

You're ready to throw Freeman under the bus after just two games? 

Look. I admire your passion about the two greatest games in all of sports.............high school and college football. But you really get carried away sometimes. Take a deep breath and maybe pause for a few minutes before you type. 

Just now, Footballking16 said:

There’s 4 other programs with tutelage like that the last 5 years. You think any of those 4 would be boasting about keeping it “close” with another top 5 team? 

Lol, you're exhausting. 

Just now, Footballking16 said:

Where’s Chatard?

In my biased poll? Why does it matter? It's biased.

23 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

Tells you where ND is at as a program.

Hmmm. I think many programs would love to be where ND is as a program:

Five years in a row with 10+ wins

Fourth best recruiting class in 2023

Number one recruiting class in 2024

You're really making a fool out of yourself. It's sad because I know you are much smarter than this. You're going down and a very high rate of speed right now. 

On 9/4/2022 at 4:03 PM, Bears62 said:

Incredibly ignorant to have Westfield a tier below Penn and Carroll. Your bias is showing sir.

"Incredibly ignorant?" I find it comical that you're incredibly angry that one could possibly have the audacity to rank a Fort Wayne team in the Top 15. It's like I said in another post. Never in the history of the game has Fort Wayne not had a representative in the Top 15. And I doubt it'll happen this year. I've got the top ten teams right now out of Indy, yet you're angry that I have Carroll over Westfield and Zionsville. Sorry my opinion that Westfield isn't a top ten team this year offends you.

Here is what a biased poll would look like:

1. Center Grove
2. Brownsburg 
3. Cathedral
4. Carmel
5. Ben Davis
6. New Palestine 
7. Warren Central
8. Carroll
9. Hamilton Southeastern
10. Snider
11. Westfield 
12. Fishers
13. North Side
14. Roncalli
15. Dwenger

Carroll at Northrop

Dwenger at Homestead - I've got these two ranked 4th & 5th in the SAC. I'll go with the Saints in this one even though Garrett is just 1-3 vs Zolman.

Luers at Concordia

Snider at South Side

Wayne at North Side

1 minute ago, Footballking16 said:

Yeah, that’s why I’m angry lol. Must suck to know that both your high school and college teams are both has beens and no longer relevant. 

Lol, ouch!

2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

And that right there is my entire point. Freeman coached that 4th quarter so that the Irish only lost by a respectable margin. He had no interest in winning or trying to win. That’s entirely weak.

ND had 3rd and 21 on it’s second to last possession at the OSU 47 down 14-10. They run a 2 yard QB draw to set up a punt and took almost an entire minute off the clock by the time the ball was downed in a game they were LOSING. Why not throw a 10 yard in with the Ohio State defense conceding the middle of the field and let the WR get a few more yards upfield which would have given ND at least a chance at a makable FG and it still being a one score game if Ohio State scored a TD on their next drive (which they ultimately did). At worst it’s an incomplete pass and ND is still punting the ball away but would have saved an entire minute on the clock.

That's hard for me to say since I didn't watch a minute of game film. 

You've really got my mind a mess right now. Cathedral fan, Notre Dame hater. This is just really bizarre. Maybe I'll go take a nap. 

1 minute ago, Footballking16 said:

Lol. I’m happy ND lost. Any time ND loses whether it’s by 1 point or 100 points, it’s a good day. 
 

I do however find it utterly comical that fans like yourself sit here all off-season complaining about lack of national recognition or defense of the ND program, and then turn right around and defend the actions of a coach who blatantly playing to not get blown out. It’s why ND is a chicken sh*t. Good to know the Irish can finally claim a moral victory over one of the big 3. Congrats.

That pretty much explains it. You're "happy ND lost." Hence the reason you're mad they were up 10-7 through three quarters and only lost by 11 in big bad Ohio State's back yard. It's ok. Notre Dame is good and will be for a long time. Get used to it. No sense in being angry all the time. Can I get you a counselor? Indy, right?

Oh wait..............it just hit me. You're angry that Cathedral, with their three offensive All Americans, were a few lucky bounces from losing their second game in a row on Friday night. That's it. It's all coming together. Go take a nap. 

Just now, Footballking16 said:

You need two scores dummy, not one. Punting the ball down 11 with 4 minutes left and 1 TO was the white flag.

Dummy? Lol. You're angry.

It's ok to have your own opinion and play pretend "what if I were the coach." But I have some news for ya. Fifty percent of collegiate coaches, all of whom have more coaching experience than you do, would have punted in that situation. You act like this is the first time you've seen it happen. You're mad that Freeman, who actually coaches for a living unlike you, didn't see it your way. Again, it's obvious you're upset that the Fighting Irish ONLY lost by 11 and were a couple of third down stops away from actually winning in the Horseshoe during primetime.  

37 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

What more evidence do you need when the freaking head coach is conceding the game? What on Earth were Freeman’s intentions then punting down 2 scores with 1 TO? He was conceding the game.

He had two options:

1. Go for it on 4th and 20 to try and extend the game but risk losing massive field position that could possibly make final outcome greater

2. Decide that an 11 point loss is good enough of a showing and punt the ball away effectively ending the game.

Freeman chose 2. Chicken sh*t football. How far Notre Dame fallen.

Your hatred for Notre Dame is evident. You were praying he'd go for it and fail so that Ohio State wouldn't have far to go to go up 28-10 and make the win look more convincing that what it actually was. 

Or did you take Ohio State with the point spread? 

Either way, you act like Freeman is the only coach in the country who would have punted in that situation. It sounds to me like he was trusting his defense to give them another shot. 

14 minutes ago, temptation said:

I could get on board with something similar to this but I think you are still underestimating Westfield.

Why the gap between HSE and Fishers? Probably a bad metric but both teams beat a common opponent (NC) by similar margin.  I think this would be a pick ‘em game.

Probably a combination of Fishers slim win over Pike and HSE living up to their preseason hype after three games. Not sure if you caught it, but in my original post in the 5a thread I had HSE in Tier 2 with Fishers. I'll defer to the Indy guys on this one. 

2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Clearly Marcus Freeman as evident by punting the ball down two scores with 4 minutes left and only one TO.

Really? That's it? 

1 minute ago, Footballking16 said:

My point exactly, content with a loss. You think Alabama, Georgia, or OSU fans brag about moral victories? Playing not to get blown out is not something a single one of those programs would do.

Lol, who's content with a loss? Give me some evidence here. 

Not sold on Kokomo quite yet. They've had some good teams in the past, maybe they'll get there. Certainly not Top 25 yet. 

5 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Notre Dame played more than well enough to win for 3 quarters and then those players were absolutely cheated by Freeman playing not to get blown out. QB draw on 3rd and 18 and then punting down two scores with 4 minutes left and 1 time out left? Chick sh*t football by Freeman, he was content with an 11 point loss on the resume for the end of year playoff debate. Tells you everything you need to know where ND is at as a program.

An eleven point loss on the home field of the #2 team in the country and a recruiting class that's currently ranked #1 coming in next year? Yeah, what a sad state of affairs they are in right now.