Footballking16

The question was never about ND’s national title odds. It was whether or not they deserve to be in the field. If the last at-large spot comes down to Miami and ND, and it appears it is headed that way, there is no way Miami should be left out. Why play the games then?

Who?

Did they cannibalize each other? Exactly one bottom half SEC team beat a top half SEC team; Florida over Texas back in September. That's it. The bottom of the SEC was terrible this year. Florida lost to South Florida. Arkansas lost to Memphis. UK lost 41-0 to Louisville. South Carolina lost at home to 6-6 Clemson. It's an overrated conference and has been the last couple of seasons. But ESPN has too much stake in the game to say otherwise.

Simple, the SEC....again....was simply overvalued. Missouri and Tennessee didn't beat a team with a winning record the entire year and were ranked throughout up until the final poll. We were fed the narrative all summer and all season long the the SEC was 11-12 teams deep. At the conclusion of the season, there isn't a single SEC ranked in the top 5 of Sagarin, ESPN's FPI, and SP+, all predicative and analytical rankings that I take much more seriously than any human poll. Get ready to to do it again all over. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Like I said, pure arrogance.

Why is it that the ND and SEC crowd have such a hard time grasping on-field results? There were about 2 or 3 SEC fanbases who swore up and down that their 9-3 teams would have been national champions had only the been included in the field. They're all delusional.

Indiana beat every team on it's schedule including a top 5 team on the road. If Notre Dame did that we wouldn't be having this conversation. They didn't however.

I cheer for IU because I went there and hate Notre Dame because I didn't. What's hard to understand about that? I don't like Ohio State. I don't like Michigan. I don't like Purdue. Why would I like any of those schools?

Exhibit A above. You, a ND fan, don't even know how the playoff selection works, yet it's tragedy they aren't going to make it? Just say it, you believe Notre Dame should be in because their name is Notre Dame. We all know it. Reality is that ND's schedule is a joke, they beat one halfway decent team all year, and lost to the two best teams on their schedule....one of them being a team with the same record jockeying for the last playoff spot. Notre Dame doesn't deserve anything this year. As far as the IU/ND basketball comparison, totally agree. Yet as an IU basketball fan I can totally accept that reality. IU has been largely irrelevant nearly my entire life and sans a few one of year downright bad. I have no shame in admitting that however. Notre Dame fans can't accept the fact that the sports has passed them by and they are no longer the center of college football. I get it.

That is not the job of the committee lol. 1-12 DO NOT make the playoff, good lord. The 5 highest rated conference champions all receive an automatic bid and then the rest of the field is compromised of the remaining 7 best at-large teams. Notre Dame is the last at-large team in the field as it stands....for now. I disliked Notre Dame long before I attended Cathedral. I don't like Notre Dame because their fans are obnoxiously arrogant despite being hardly relevant in nearly 40 years. The proof is in the pudding.

I mean Oklahoma did beat Alabama. At Alabama no less. Would agree that Alabama is probably in unless they get 50 pieced. Will be interested to see if an Alabama loss moves the Irish back in front of ND, putting them safely in the field in the order to get both programs in or if they stay put at 9 and have Miami and ND fight it out for the last at-large.

It's not a tragedy. Tulane will have won their conference championship. Notre Dame knows full and well that the 5 top rated conference champions get an automatic bid to the playoff. This isn't coming down to Tulane and Notre Dame. Miami and Notre Dame are battling for the last at-large spot. Miami beat Notre Dame On.The.Field. SP+, Sagarin, etc are all irrelevant in this instance.

I know he's a Purdue legacy but do we know if Kiffin extend him an offer to LSU?

I honestly think Penn State thought they could pry Elko from A&M, bringing him home back East. I believe they made a run at Drinkwitz at Missouri as well. I'm convinced that Jimmy Sexton is purposefully sabotaging Penn State with they way they did James Franklin who is also a CAA client. At least 3 different Sexton/CAA clients have all leveraged Penn State for extensions and raises.

I'd be extremely worried about Kelly's fire at this age. Dude has made close to $100 million and has another $54 million coming his way. Penn State literally has no incoming freshman class and I doubt Kelly would be able to drag a bunch LSU kids to the middle of Pennsylvania.

IU is undefeated playing for a chance at the #1 seed Saturday. There isn't another team in college football that I'm afraid of this year. If ND is not only fortunate enough to make the playoff, but win their opening round game on the road and meets IU, will discuss when the time calls for it. Big bad ND who beats up on the dregs of the ACC doesn't really move me.

I don't care enough one way or the other. Just find it hilarious when ND and their fans try and take the high road on joining a conference and then act like they have no clue why they are left out of things like this when they are.

Guess what? ND would have the same opportunity as Tulane this weekend if they were in a conference. This isn’t hard.

Notre Dame is free to do whatever they want, doesn’t bother me for a second. Stopping acting dumbfounded in these situations though. They have one decent win all year and lost to the two best teams in their schedule. They don’t have these Okoro to play their way in via a conference championship and that’s their own damn fault.

Why is ND "easily the best two loss team"? Based on what? Their resume sucks. They have one win against a team currently in the CFP top 25 rankings. Turns out that beating a bunch of bottom half ACC teams for 2 straight months isn't a great strategy. Join a damn conference.

The committee has already said teams that are idle can move up or down. It was a direct quote from the committee chair last night specifically about Notre Dame and Miami. They will reassess after this weekend and completely re-rank the teams going into Sunday. Right now there is a buffer between ND and Miami, and that team is BYU. BYU winning puts them in the field as an automatic qualifier and bumps ND who is the last at-large team in the field as of today. BYU losing more than likely drops them and there is now no buffer between Miami and ND. Miami's head to head win over ND should propel them over ND. I honestly think ND's only path is for Alabama to get absolutely blown out by Georgia. Could see ND jumping Bama in that scenario.

The way I see it, ND is in a whole heap of trouble and BYU is going to screw them either way. A BYU win Saturday puts them in the field and knocks ND out. A BYU loss and they fall out of the 11 spot pitting ND and Miami right next to each other for the first time since the rankings have been released. Committee has previously stated they have not compared ND to Miami because they were too far apart in the rankings. Miami will jump ND Sunday if that is the case.

They did but looked terrible, their offense is horrible. I'd honestly put Texas in over Oklahoma as the Longhorns beat them 17.

Not nearly as funny as being accused of being an Ohio State fan.

From 08-12 while I was down there…went to every damn one. Usually try to go to 2-3 a year these days but not always practical, especially this year considering my wife and I had a child in September. Was able to go to homecoming two weeks ago and then again last night.