Footballking16

Should have said yet, obviously Michigan still plays in Happy Valley and of course The Game. Michigans in if they take care of business. Ohio State still has outs based on their initial rank.

They'd have to beat Washington in the Pac12 championship and then get some help.

I don't see FSU losing so they are going to get in as an undefeated team. Washington would get in as undefeated PAC12 team but I don't think they get by Oregon a 2nd time.

It matters but OSU's eye test would look similar to Michigan had the Buckeyes played Michigan's schedule to date. Michigan hasn't played a soul. Unless Washington goes undefeated, OSU is almost assuredly in the field even with a loss to Michigan so long as they don't get blown out.

Is he going to cooperate or flat lie about it? That level 3 can turn to a level 1 very quickly. On October 19th he told the world he knew nothing about any sign stealing scheme. A day later Connor Scallions name was introduced to the world and was subsequently suspended for his role in the sign stealing scheme.

So what did TCU do? They put together a system of dummy signals and more, hoping to throw the Wolverines off. TCU mixed in some new signals with the old ones, instructing players to ignore the previous signals and call plays associated with the new signals. But that was not all the Horned Frogs did. They also would at times use two different signals, sending in one play with the new signs, “freezing” the play, and then signaling in a second, dummy play using the old signs. Players were instructed to run the play as first called with the new signs, but the hope was that Michigan would buy the second signals, the ones they potentially knew. They also tried sending in plays late in the play clock, to prevent Michigan from having enough time to adjust. The plan worked, in part, as TCU beat Michigan 51-45 to advance to the National Championship Game. As found by Dellenger: Pretty funny how every B10 school had knowledge of the sign stealing scheme....except Michigan and Harbaugh https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2023/10/26/michigan-sign-stealing-updates-latest-news-ncaa-investigation-jim-harbaugh-team/71328356007/#:~:text=Jim Harbaugh denies knowledge of sign-stealing in Michigan program&text=On the same day as,this matter%2C" Harbaugh said. "I want to make it clear that I, and my staff, will fully cooperate with the investigation into this matter," Harbaugh said. "I do not have any knowledge or information regarding the University of Michigan football program illegally stealing signals, nor have I directed staff members or others to participate in an off-campus scouting assignment. I have no awareness of anyone on our staff having done that or having directed that action. This is what is going to ultimately do Harbaugh in; lying about petty offenses to the NCAA. Bruce Pearl received a show cause for lying to the NCAA about hosting a recruit at a backyard BBQ Kelvin Sampson received a show cause for lying about impermissible phone calls, a secondary violations. Jim Tressel lied about knowing his players received free tattoos from a booster. He was handed a show cause. Harbaugh seems to be going all-in playing dumb. Obviously he was on record saying this prior to Connor Scallions name ever becoming public so he'll recant his claim.

I don't care about any of the other noise or nonsense or any Ohio State pettiness. It's a pretty cut and dry case here, either Harbaugh: 1. Is behind a sophisticated sign stealing scheme that breaks NCAA rules 2. Or he isn't. It's one or the other here. This isn't Harbaugh's first run in with the NCAA and he's already under investigation for prior allegations.

Why does that matter lol? If one team sends personnel to scout the other teams signals (by breaking the rules) and that teams opponent doesn't you tell me who has the upper hand? Let me guess, what the Astros did was no big deal either?

Probably the same advantage Spygate gave the Patriots. If you're that good, why blatantly cheat? And if you're going to cheat, at least cover your ass.

Probably going to depend on his cooperation and the fallout from the other investigation. The NCAA doesn't like when you become habitual.

Ok a paid staffer bought tickets under his own name and sent associates to do his dirty work. Let me guess, Harbaugh had no clue this was going on?

Still better than every team that Georgia, Michigan, and Oregon have beat.

You said they haven't beat anybody? Who has Michigan beat? Georgia? Oregon's best win is #13 Utah and they have a loss to add.

Sending a staffer to multiple away games to video tape future opponents call signals is a blatant NCAA violation. C'mon Temp

Blatantly breaking NCAA rules while you're already under NCAA investigation (for breaking a different set of rules) is in fact the very definition of a putz.

They beat LSU by 3 TDs.

He's a good coach with a blatant disregard for the rules set forth by the NCAA to the point he doesn't even try and hide it. He can be a good coach and a putz at the same time, they aren't mutually exclusive in this instance. And I haven't changed my stance, you've pumped out some narrative that only the national media was driving Harbaugh to the Vikings and the local media had it right all along. I've given you two examples in two posts where two local UM writers suggested he was leaving.

The "only reliable insiders in the business" lol Sam Webb sure seemed to think he was gone too It's ok to admit it wasn't the national media driving this narrative. Had Harbaugh not botched his interview with the Vikings, he'd be in Minnesota right now. https://247sports.com/college/michigan/article/michigan-football-jim-harbaugh-gets-final-in-person-interview-with-minnesota-vikings-wednesday-182046538/ "Because of the narrative about Harbaugh being difficult to work with. In this instance that isn’t just sentiment from around the league. There is a minority stakeholder in the Vikings with strong Michigan ties who has been adamant in expressing the view that one of the other candidates would be a better choice. Ordinarily a minority stakeholder’s view would carry the weight of his or her stake (and that will probably be the case here). But because this stakeholder is speaking from an informed perspective and amplifying a prevalent narrative, countering that sentiment is important. If Wednesday’s interview achieves that, it’d be a surprise if Harbaugh walked away without an offer. And if that offer is extended, it’s all over but the shouting."

Balas is the one who broke the news that Michigan was hiring Harbaugh in the first place lol.

You sure about that? Local writers sure seemed to think he was taking the Minnesota job, and in fact wrote that he had already taken it lol. They named Matt Rhule as a potential successor. https://www.on3.com/teams/michigan-wolverines/news/jim-harbaugh-plans-to-sign-with-the-minnesota-vikings/

Don't remember that one, but if you say so sure He took a serious paycut just to stay employed at Michigan That wasn't the narrative. Harbaugh treated the Vikings interview as if he had already been given the job and the interview was a mere formality. This turned off Viking execs and he was passed over. I'm not sure how this is going to play out but he's a walking putz that can't seem to stay out of his own way.

Yeah if Cathedral doesn't get pressure and their QB has time to throw the ball downfield, this will come down to the wire.

Purdue too high

Who has disputed that? It’s irrelevant to the comment and comparison I made.

I’m not comparing districts smartass. But you knew that. I made the comparison between East St Louis High School and Arsenal Tech, two inner-city schools with identical demographics and socio-economic status. If you’ve followed any of Temp’s diatribes on this subject over the years, a school like ESL should never be able to succeed (low enrollment/high f/r/l program) given those two factors. No need to announce your presence as the smartest guy in the room, just hit submit reply.