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Pulling a kid from school after week 1 because your son isn't a sophomore starter or transferring because your son gets yanked after a couple of bad series even if it is a "parental decision" doesn't always serve in the best interest of a student-athlete either. The IHSAA is trying to avoid this by deterring immediate eligibility at the varsity level. If the IHSAA didn't have a say in this matter, this would be a common theme continuously occurring with parents who are trying to vicariously live their kids.
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Penn vs Cathedral
Footballking16 replied to GOLDRUSH1985's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Penn is definitely resurgent (or at least appears that way) from the last two years and should be a more formidable opponent this go around. That being said, I think this is a terrible week to be playing Cathedral given the outcome of last week, especially how poorly the Irish played for most of the game. I can assure you practice this week will not be fun and I think the Cathedral defense will be out for blood. -
Greatest weekend ever?
Footballking16 replied to whiteshoes's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
How the tides have changed in the GCL. Moeller seemed like a program left for dead just a few years ago after several consecutive losing seasons and a carousel of coaching changes. Big Moe appears to be the heavy frontrunner in the GCL South and a legitimate state title contender. St. X who has dominated the GCL South for years and won a state title two years ago is 0-2 and coming off an absolute drubbing to Loyola up in Chicago. Bombers may only be a 2-3 win team this year. Just goes to show you how cyclical things are in high school football and how quick things can change for better or for worse. -
The IHSAA serves as the intermediary between all its member schools. The rule is obviously in place to protect its collective members as a whole. If that means star players from School A, B, C, and D can't transfer without repercussion to School E then so be it, as that is the collective outlook you're going to see if the IHSAA completely absolves themselves from transfer situations. You won't find but maybe 1 or 2 coaches in all of the IHSAA sanctioned sports who actually support the idea of an open-window, free agency like market. It's just not conducive to high school sports and certainly not the message it is intended to deliver. My stance on that won't change.
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There's been an established rule for years (long before Niedig) that restricts varsity eligibility for up to 365 days from athletically motivated transfers. And up until these last few years, its been enforced as such. With such a large influx of transfers these last few years that the IHSAA has been pretty lax about enforcing, it's going to be an absolute free for all if the IHSAA abolishes it's long standing rule. I do not support the idea that kids should be able to transfer at-will without some kind of repercussion. My stance on that won't change. The rule absolutely exists to protect the IHSAA member schools as a whole.
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I'm saying if the IHSAA doesn't put their foot down on all the influx in transfers, you're going to see kids transfer 3-4 times before their high school career is over. There's a top 50 basketball recruit here in state who started his freshman year Franklin Central, then transferred to Crispus Attucks, transferred to a prep school for his junior year, and is now back in-state this time playing for Warren Central. It's an absolute joke that is allowed to happen. If both schools sign off on a transfer, then I would agree the IHSAA needs to stay out of it. But the IHSAA should absolutely be allowed to have a say in an athletic transfer when one school doesn't sign off. A precedent needs to be set. Open enrollment allows kids to choose any school district they want prior to their freshman year. Deterring a kid from transferring 3-4 times in his high school career is the IHSAA's way of looking out for the best interest of a student-athlete. It's not healthy to do that, at all.
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No one has suggested that. But the rule absolutely protects the IHSAA member schools and the IHSAA has to put the best interests from its members first and foremost. That's a no-brainer. You're confusing the two. The IHSAA can't restrict a parent from moving their kid from one school district to another, but they can absolutely restrict (as they should be able) varsity eligibility for blatant athletic purposes. Kids can still play JV for a year as well as club sports.
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It's obviously a case by case scenario. A kid whose family lives in Carmel on the North Side of Indy that physically moves to say Greenwood or Whiteland should be eligible to play without any varsity restriction. This unfortunately isn't the common type of transfer though. A kid who lives in Fishers, attends Fishers for a year and then transfers to Noblesville 15 miles away is likely an arbitrary case. If both schools sign off on it, then the IHSAA shouldn't get involved as long as it is a one type deal. If you transfer a second time your varsity eligibility should be automatically rescinded for a year unless the transfer involves a physical address change that aligns with the school district the player's family is re-locating. The vast majority of transfers happening right now, at least in larger metropolitan areas, don't involve a physical address change however. Kid's are simply attending out of district schools and providing their own transportation.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. There's just nothing in me that would leave me to believe that an individual high school student would voluntarily wake up once a year and think, "hey I'm ready to transfer high schools.....again". It's all influential. Some due influence from family or family members, but a lot from outside coaching...AAU coaches, individual trainers, handlers, etc. It's becoming a black eye,
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I'm talking about kids who jump to 3 or 4 schools in their 4 year career. We're heading that direction, already seeing it on the hardwood. I understand a kid transferring after their freshman year being in an overwhelmed situation, but you're now seeing kids transfer every year. That's not healthy in my opinion.
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Scenario 2 is the type of transfer that needs to be weeded out. If the IHSAA doesn’t put their foot down, it’s only going to be a matter of time before an athlete transfers after the first game because they either didn’t start or were pulled and will try and force their way into a different roster at a different school in the same season.
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Cathedral at Brownsburg
Footballking16 replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
To be fair, that poster has whined about officiating over the years more than just anybody else on here, so I take it with a grain of salt. I rarely mention officiating on here and I don’t think it factored into the outcome of last nights game at all. I was simply pointing out what I thought were poor calls in last nights game. -
Temp’s Top 25 (8/27/22)
Footballking16 replied to temptation's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Based on actual results to date: 1. Center Grove 2. Brownsburg 3. New Pal 4. Ben Davis 5. Warren -
Cathedral at Brownsburg
Footballking16 replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I thought they were just ok. Few questionable holding calls each way and I do think they called a pretty egregious PI on a crucial 3rd down on a play with pretty minimal contact on a ball that was well overthrown. They did almost screw Cathedral out of a possession late as they were trying to come back. Never reset the down after a holding penalty and it may not have gotten corrected if it weren’t for a very animated sideline and lengthy discussion. But I’ve seen far worse at this level, that’s for sure. -
Temp’s Top 25 (8/27/22)
Footballking16 replied to temptation's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
New Pal might be the best team in the state, regardless of class. -
Because what kind of life lesson does that teach? Pack up and move at the first sign of adversity? That’s a terrible thing to allow and if the IHSAA sets a precedent going forward that no transfer will affect varsity eligibility, it’s going to get out of hand. Like it’s already impacted the college game, there will be tons of unintended consequences.
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Cathedral at Brownsburg
Footballking16 replied to PHJIrish's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Tough one to lose but Brownsburg clearly the better team, and their experience also showed as well. They won the line of scrimmage. Cathedral’s defense is a mess and special teams are even worse. Untimely penalties, poor execution, turnovers, etc you name it, tonight was a disaster. Only week 2 and still time to develop, but the new starters need to grow up in a hurry. That wasn’t acceptable football tonight.
