Footballking16

Right. And there’s a difference between playing Pike, Lawrence Central, North Central, etc for half your schedule vs playing teams with multiple P5 players every week. You really think Center Grove would compete with IMG, let alone beat them?

Kind of like me saying Center Grove had a tremendous and successful season but didn't play a schedule remotely close to some of these 1 loss teams ranked behind the Trojans? I wasn't lying when I called you a hypocrite.

You're right, I apologize. It was all Rock attempting to discredit Brady Allen as Mr. Football winner. Sorry for lumping you in, that's not good company to be associated with. That being said, I still don't think Center Grove is one of the 5 best teams in America. Worthy of a top 25 ranking (undefeated, state champs, etc) in my opinion, but if they played the type of schedule that many of the teams in the top 25 play I think their record would reflect as such. No doubt football in Indiana is growing (and getting better), but it's still light years behind South Florida, Texas, CA, etc.

Attempt to discredit?

I read for two weeks that Allen shouldn't win the award because he "only" plays QB and only plays 3A competition. I don't think Center Grove is the 5th best high school team in America. I think they would get mercy-ruled by IMG and their 24 D1 commits despite being lower ranked than Center Grove. That's my opinion, everyone had one.

Which is hypocrisy because these same two posters are trying to discredit a certain POY award winner in a thread just below this.

Absolutely nobody discrediting Center Grove's success. Why go there? Just have a hard time believing there are only 4 high school teams in America better than Center Grove. Center Grove doesn't play near the schedule that some of these teams ranked just behind them do nor do they have near the overall talent. Teams like St. Thomas Aquinas and Bishop Gorman have 15-20 legitimate D1 prospects and play nationally ranked teams week in and week out. Guessing if Center Grove played that kind of schedule, they'd be an afterthought for a top 5 ranking. Just an opinion.

I generally agree with this. I obviously don't watch/follow football nationally in they way you do, just find it hard to believe that a team like Center Grove is better than a team like St. Thomas Aquinas who has 15-20 kids with legitimate D1 offers. The competition these teams play in metro hotbeds like Dade/Broward Co, Houston, Dallas, LA, ATL, is just ridiculous, not to mention the private/prep schools who play national schedules.

Was Lafayette Jeff voted out of the NCC?

Would just be silly not to vote either school in if you’re the HCC. CG and Carmel are going to win their fair share of state titles regardless of what conference they’re in, might as well have them win under the HCC banner than vice versa. Adding both teams, especially Carmel, rekindles some old school Hamilton County rivals and in all honesty probably raises the level of competition for every conference member.

In this day and age of prep school and academy football hard to believe there’s only 4 better teams than Center Grove, but nonetheless still a very cool recognition for both the Center Grove program and the state of Indiana itself.

They aren't in the MIC anymore. They were voted out. That's why everybody called the powers at be petulant children for voting the two schools out, there's no chance at a return.

Why would they go back? I thought athletics weren't of importance to the MIC. That's a pretty quick change of heart.

Right, which is extremely silly and serves no purpose to the discussion. I don't know the first thing about Frankfort but guessing there isn't a huge disparity in SES factors between them and conference foes. No reason for them to be as bad as they are unless there isn't even attempt by the local community and administration to improve their football program which honestly may be the case.

Better comparison to what?

I wouldn't go that far, but no reason to think that with a solid support staff, good feeder program, etc Frankfort shouldn't fare much better than they currently do in a conference comprised of mostly 2A and 3A schools. I'd start there first.

Don't know anything about Frankfort other than they're a "4A school by enrollment only" per Muda. From a football perspective only, WeBo is a better fit in your proposed Lafayette conference.

Commitment from Frankfort? Muda preaches every week how Frankfort would be better off playing co-op flag football.

Purely from a fan perspective. Brownsburg likely falls a tier or two in the HCC hierarchy if Center Grove and Carmel join ship. Brownsburg moving to the MIC would give them an opportunity to finally become king of the hill in a conference and form geographical rivals with Pike and Ben Davis along with current rival Avon. I'm guessing Brownsburg is perfectly content in the HCC and will remain that way with whatever happens going forward. But a new alignment that adds Avon/Brownsburg/Franklin Central would be the best possible outcome for the MIC.

What was the deal with Avon's football team this year? Saw they won one game? Young with a lot of roster turnover I take it? Avon's put out some serious D1 talent the last few years.

Yep blew that lol. NC would stay in MIC making it a 9 team conference, although I do think NC does well enough in some of the non-revenue they could do alright in the HCC if they had to.

Any idea on schools that are most resistant to adding Carmel/Center Grove? Purely from a fan standpoint I'd love to see a conference shake up between the HCC and MIC establishing new members as such: New HCC Carmel Center Grove Westfield Zionsville Fishers HSE Noblesville New MIC Warren Ben Davis Brownsburg Avon Franklin Central Pike Lawrence Central Lawrence North HCC could leave a spot open to potentially add an 8th member in Mt Vernon assuming they continue their rapid growth.

Could we possibly be heading there? (One can only hope)

They're both full of crap. Both can, and in this case are, true.

He received a massive NIL deal via Barstool Sports who partners with Deion. This will become the norm sooner than later. Might actually drive some parity back to college football. https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/travis-hunters-flip-to-jackson-state-sparks-barstool-nil-rumors/amp/