Footballking16

Yet you've been shouting from the rooftops for years about this move well before either of these isolated incidents occurred. This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the fact that the MIC doesn't pull their weight in regards to offering a competitive product to challenge CG or Carmel. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't know about no credibility, but yes, lost a ton of credibility. And yes it's total BS to claim that the MIC isn't athletically motivated. It's an athletic conference for crying out loud, it's why it exists. The MIC didn't want to get caught with their pants at their ankles when Carmel and CG inevitably bolted, so they acted and dressed up a bunch of BS to dance around the fact that Carmel and Center Grove were no longer being challenged athletically in their current conference. I don't want to hear this was an academic move either because Carmel and Center Grove (along with North Central) are by far and away the best academic schools in the MIC.

I blame DT. Keeps serving it up on a platter.

Don't believe Notre Dame ever offered Curry. Mr. Football can't be considered a "best player" award if you're not going to consider the kids choosing to play college football out of state. If you're good enough to play at Alabama and Ohio State, you're considered one of the best players in the country.

Correct. This is nothing more than sour grapes. The MIC can rant and rave however they want, but this is going to hurt their athletic programs in the long run, especially in the two sports they still have a somewhat fighting chance in; football and basketball. With open-enrollment, I wouldn't be shocked to see more and more township kids leave the county to play in a much higher profile conference. Ben Davis and Warren will be hit the hardest in my opinion as if they weren't already.

Academic initiatives? Can you clarify? And what exactly is the core mission and purpose of an athletic conference?

What is the MIC supposed to say when their two breadwinners are looking to abandon ship? To say the MIC doesn't care about their athletic image is facetious at best. They care, there was just nothing they could do.

We'll see what sympathy looks like when the MIC adds Tech and a school like Kokomo all while CG and Carmel are joining the best applicable conference in the state.

A kid good enough to play at OSU or Alabama should be excluded from the award that "supposedly" crowns the state's best player? And you wonder why so many people think the award is a joke to begin with.

Two years ago DT ascribed the Center Grove and Carmel's move to the HCC for the EXACT reason it is happening. This is why you can't take anything he says seriously. He doesn't believe a single word he says. It's all for show.

Link? Monday was the first time I've ever seen Carmel and Center Grove publicly linked to the HCC in any kind of news publication. And that was after they were voted out of the MIC. Are you insinuating the MIC voted out Carmel and Center Grove based on dialogue on an internet message board where 99.9% of the users are anonymous? Perhaps that's why children are running the conference that is now about to fall into large irrelevancy. Carmel and Center Grove are the two largest and highest athletic profiles in the state. They will be fine.

You're preaching to the choir unfortunately. DT could poll all 300 some head coaches in the state of Indiana and every single one of them would give a similar that Coach Peebles of Cathedral gave during his interview with DT, "I would never support such an idea".

Lol. I’m going to table this post for future reference.

Since it's apparently not about athletics anymore, MIC shouldn't struggle finding two new replacements so long as they're willing to downgrade. Tech makes the most sense and then adding one of Perry/Southport/Decatur Central does as well. I don't think traveling 3+ hours to play a Duneland or NIC school is conducive to the MIC.

Again, how on Earth does a state-funded school go about charging tuition and accessing admission requirements?

That decision should be left to the community and school administrators, not some blowhard on the GID.

As I said there is entirely more to high school football than a win-loss record. It should not be taken away on that principle alone.

This is why I can’t take anything you say seriously. For years you’ve been the resident conference realignment expert and have been ascribing Carmel’s inevitable move from the MIC to the HCC citing SES factors, geographical ties, and school profiles. Now you’re balking at the idea for the HCC extending an invitation to Carmel? What gives? You’re so contrite in playing contrarian that you expose yourself as the biggest hypocrite on this board. The HCC would be clinically insane not to offer the states largest and most visible athletic profile an invitation.

What’s an athletic conference who just kicked out the two best athletic programs in the state supposed to say?

And when the MIC succumbs to athletic irrelevancy then what?

How on earth does a state-funded public school become an out of state athletic factory? Who on Earth is paying $30k a year to send their kid to a public high school in Indiana? Do you think before you type?

Better off in what regard? Competing for state titles? Not only will Center Grove and Carmel likely never voluntarily schedule a MIC school again, the mercy rule will be in the back of everyone's mind if/when it's applicable.

LOL. They're gone because they were voted OUT. Big 12 stands a much better chance of getting OU and Texas back than the MIC does getting CG and Carmel back. One set of schools voluntarily left, the other set was told to leave. Huge difference.

Center Grove and Carmel will be fine. That I'm sure.

Notice how the B12 didn't throw their arms in the air and unanimously vote Texas and Oklahoma out? Because the B12 knows those two universities aren't replaceable and if something with the SEC backfired they'd still have them as members. The MIC burned that bridge and to my knowledge Center Grove and Carmel haven't been accepted as members to another conference as it stands.