Footballking16

Embarrassingly pathetic half from Cathedral. Penalties, turnovers, poor execution…lifeless. Oh yeah, Brownsburg is really good too. Edit. 4 play 80 yard score in less than a minute for Cathedral. Irish get ball to start second half. Must stop here.

Do you honestly think that a 14-17 year old kid wakes up once a year and decides to transfer from high school to high school four different times without their being some kind of “undue influence” (tampering) going along somewhere? There’s no rule that states a student can’t transfer 4 different times. But there needs to be some kind of precedent set that transferring to 4 different high schools in 4 years should be met with some kind of eligibility restriction.

Because you’re going to end up with kids playing for 4 different schools in 4 different years if kids are able to freely transfer without eligibility restrictions. And to that point I would think you’d see tampering on a whole different level.

Can’t verify or deny as I really don’t know, but wouldn’t bet against 1 or 2 of the guys playing major college football down the road. You’re talking 5 guys who who all will be making just their second varsity start later this evening. The O-Line will need a few weeks to gel and acclimate to the speed of the varsity game, but as you suggested, should be in fine tune at the end of the year.

There’s not a team (in my opinion) that can match the collection of talent in the skill department than that of Cathedral, hence my far superior comment. It is quite a statement. And I stand by it, and it’s certainly not without merit. You can make a legitimate case that O’Neil, Tibbs, and Wooten are the three best at their position this year.

I’ve asked you now three times to offer up a team that has anywhere near the collection of wealth and talent in the skill position department? You’ve yet to offer anything. Either put up or shut up. Again, I said it’s an opinion. But I stand by it.

Cathedral was up 3 scores before Lafayette Jeff could blink last week. No doubt Brownsburg is a major step up in competition, but it’s not like Cathedral doesn’t present a major challenge for Brownsburg in their own right. Brownsburg was pretty fortunate to squeak out a win against a short handed Ben Davis team who hasn’t exactly set the world on fire these last couple years and even with an inexperienced offensive line, Cathedral is still likely a decided favorite. I’ve given my score prediction on the CHS-Brownsburg game thread (21-13) and while I do think it’ll be a close game throughout, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see Cathedral win by a couple scores.

Cathedral’s offensive line is inexperienced to date, as would be the case anytime you have to replace 5 senior starters from the year prior, but they certainly aren’t without talent. I’ll assure you that.

You don’t need a full set of fingers on one hand to count the number of teams in the state that have two D1 commits at the skill positions, let alone 3. It’s not a knock on anyone else, you’re just not going to find another team this year with that many weapons at multiple positions.

It’s an opinion obviously. But I’d be hard pressed to know another team in the state that has anywhere close to the collection of wealth and talent in the skill position department as Cathedral? You have anything to offer?

How many other teams in the state have a D1 QB, WR, and TE on their roster? Tibbs (Purdue) and O’Neil (several high major offers) are both P5 players and Wooten has recently committed to Western Michigan.

I think Cathedral could lose tomorrow, but I wouldn’t bet on it until the tournament, in the event it happens. Cathedral’s skill position players are far superior to anyone else in the state. Obviously I’m biased, but you can make a legitimate argument that O’Neil, Tibbs, Wooten at QB/WR/TE are the best at their positions over anyone in the state. CHS breaking in an entire new OL is obviously a concern early, but they have too many weapons at every other position on that side of the ball.

I too think this game will be closer than it should be. Cathedral did what they needed to do early for a ho hum win at Jeff while Brownsburg survived on the road against a short handed BD team. Brownsburg DL will test an inexperienced Cathedral OL but Cathedral has far superior talent at the skill positions and make one too many plays. 21-13 Irish

Penn used to have an enrollment advantage over all but 2-3 schools in Indiana. That has dwindled as there are now several schools with 3000+ students. Competition in Indy is elite almost every week whereas it’s not in the NIC.

Nor enrollment. Penn needs to get out and play a big boy football schedule.

Every single 6A school, Tech included, has 125-150 male students capable of playing high school football. How well the school corporation, staff, and it school markets it’s football program from the youth system all the way to grade 9 makes a world of a difference. There is zero to no structure in IPS and that’s why Tech has been garbage. But it’s not due to lack of capable bodies.

You ever been to Granger? SES ain’t the issue.

Yes it was me, and it gets redundant after a certain threshold. You need 125-150 kids, grades 9-12, to run a competent 6A football program in my opinion. That’s 12-15% of the male population in a school of 2000 kids. That’s not a reach. Because Penn is the poster child of being non-competitive against the Indy hegemony the last 20 years. And it ain’t due to their enrollment, which is BTF claim.

The hierarchy of football in central Indiana has drastically changed, even in the last 5 years. WC and BD aren’t shells of their former selfs, and while you can attribute some of that to the pandemic, I’m not sure you’ll ever see either of those programs line up and dominate they way they used too, mega-enrollment or not. Center Grove is undoubtedly the pinnacle program of central Indiana (as well as the state) and Coach Moore has laid such a tremendous amount of ground work, I’m not sure that is ever going to be reversed. Carmel will always be Carmel, but they were human these last two years after going to the south half of the bracket. They will always be a contender, going north. Cathedral will be a 6A school for the foreseeable future. They will be a major player in 6A for years to come.

Carmel, BD, and Warren are still the 3 largest schools in the state and all 3 are currently 0-1 losing to 3 opponents all with vastly inferior enrollments. Carmel and Warren failed to win their sectional last year and BD hasn’t played in LOS since 2017.

Way to bring up Cathedral in an argument that has nothing to do with Cathedral. Penn has 500 less students than Warren Central, it’s a tiring argument about enrollment. When you have 3,000+ kids in your school, the argument about not being able to put a competitive football team on the field is ridiculous. Citing Penn’s enrollment to a lack of competitiveness against the Indy hegemony is absolute hog wash.

I know where Westfield is located. I’m tired of hearing about the enrollment “excuse” when it comes to a lack of competitiveness in state title games between Indy area schools and true northern schools. Westfield, at 2600 kids, was more than competitive in their state title game last year. A school like Penn can’t use their enrollment as an excuse as to why they aren’t competitive when they make it to the state finals.

Tired of this excuse. Penn has had 3000+ students for two decades. Homestead and Carroll are both bigger than Center Grove. Westfield and its 2600 students came out of the North last year (with no mega enrollment school in the way) and gave CG all they could handle last year.

Merrillville can absolutely “compete” in 6A as can several other non-6A schools in pretty much every class. There’s never going to be 32 (or 64 depending on class) contenders a year. This is why the IHSAA classifies schools by enrollment. 6A is no different from the rest of the classes in the sense that there are truly only 4-5 contenders a year, and they’re usually the same faces. But it would be rather silly for the IHSAA to classify schools on ability to “compete”.

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