Footballking16

Where do you put a school like Evansville Reitz when it comes to blue-blood status? Evansville Reitz been playing football forever and has a ton of mythical (and legit) state titles pre-IHSAA era and at one point (not sure still this case) had the 2nd most wins in Indiana History. Won a few state titles this century as well.

That's how I interpret it as well and why some people still consider Indiana basketball a blue blood. Championships in 4 different decades spanning multiple coaches. They haven't been great the last 25 years, but I think it takes a hell lot longer than 25 years to establish blue-blood status and should take every bit as long, if not longer, to lose it.

Luers has to be on that list as well. Too tough to do a a true blue blood list in high school football. Too many classes therefore too many titles to go around. Blue-blood status is an extremely exclusive title.

Don't think it's crazy. North Davies moving to 2A likely puts them in a sectional with Linton-Stockton and then a regional with Providence (defending 2A champ). Both Linton and Providence finished with better Sagarin ratings as 2A schools and than any team they'd face in a potential 3A sectional or regional.

Believe Mishawaka did right when the IHSAA implemented its 6th class. It was before teams like Cathedral, Dwenger, etc were regularly cycled up to 5A and were still in 4A. Mishawaka avoided northern powers like Lowell and Dwenger. 4A was stronger at the time than the new look 5A featuring 32 teams, especially in the North half of the bracket.

Best class in terms of parity if you ask me. Cathedral, Roncalli, Dwenger, Columbus East, Reitz, Lowell all very strong.

Be careful Bob. Beating Ohio State for the first time in a decade has brought out the worst in some Michigan fans. And they got their Michigan Man back.

Be interesting to see the new 6A South sectional alignment. Cathedral in a sectional with LC, LN, and North Central likely ensures the Irish will remain in 6A on an almost permanent basis (nothing wrong with that either). 4A would have been a good barometer for Chatard. New Pal (I believe) will be loaded the next year or two and Kokomo bumping down strengthens 4A which in my opinion has been one of the weaker classes for sometime.

Lived right on the Hamilton/Marion Co border. Always considered Carmel a suburban school, HSE and Noblesville were all big 5A enrollment schools within Hamilton Co. Hell I considered both Lawrence Schools and North Central suburban schools back then, though it has definitely changed in the last 10 years. Carmel has almost always gone north in the state tournament in every sport and is almost always in sectionals with their Hamilton Co brethren.

Hmmm. I was in high school from 04-08 and definitely lumped Carmel in with the other Hamilton County schools before I associated them with the Ben Davis' and Warren Central's of the world, regardless of conference affiliation. HSE had well over 3k kids when they split after the 06-07 school year and would have been considered a mega-school enrollment back then.

Carmel?

Didn't they win baseball that year as well?

What about Snider’s long term success when there was only 5 classes? 6A been around for a handful of years.

You said a program with long term success. 6A has been around for all of 7-8 years. Snider ran a very successful program long before 6A was created as one of the smaller 5A schools. I answered your question and you were proven wrong. Clown. Now go puff your chest some more.

Those weren't my terms.

Snider

So agree on the terms?

Definitely the reason why Noblesville and Lake Central have unsuccessful football programs. Nailed it.

$25 it is, however I'm not going anywhere win or lose. Not sure my employer knows or cares where I went to high school 15+ years ago but whatever. Then you're getting great odds and should readily pounce on the spread. No clue what Ohio State's defense is going to look like next year. Don't really care. just know that Michigan is going to have to score just about every time they touch the ball to keep it close.

Margin of victory. Ohio State didn't win last year. 5-1 against Michigan since Harbaugh took over. Michigan has only beaten Ohio State 4 times the millennium. More than enough data to show Michigan doesn't belong in this rivalry in current times. Haskins doesn't play on the team anymore nor does a bevy of lineman for Michigan on both sides of the ball. Are you taking both bets? $50 GID donation per each?

42-13 30-27 31-20 62-39 56-27 Ohio State's average margin of victory since Harbaugh took over is 19 points. You're lucky a game wasn't played in 2020 or that average margin of victory would be even higher. Ohio State at home, waiting an entire year to avenge a loss with arguably 3 Heisman trophy candidates (Stroud/Henderson/Smith-Njigba) spells disaster for the Wolverines. Better pray for snow as Day will run it up, no doubt about it.

I'll take you up on the 9.5. I'll give the Wolverines 20.5 at the Shoe, it ain't going to be pretty. You going to pay money out of your own pocket this time when donating to the GID fund? I expect it.

Waltz?? Play @ Ohio State and @ Iowa and Michigan Stadium might as well be renamed Sparty East. Harbaugh will find a way to lose to Michigan State/Penn State, has made a career out of losing a game he shouldn't while in Ann Arbor.

Not going to make a playoff giving up 50+ in the Shoe. Cupcake schedule or not, Michigan will find a way to go 9-3. It’s who they are these days. Lose their two best players by far in Hutchinson and Obajo and several other defensive starters. Believe they lose 2-3 lineman as well. At least McCarthy has foot speed, he’s going to need. Happy for you that Michigan has their “Michigan Man”….for now. “One time thing”

Huh? DT previously admitted he was too aggressive in trying to take over the site as a pay for play subscription. There's no hyperbole, there's not even a slight exaggeration. It deadass happened. And he was banned. About that waffle...