Footballking16

How has enrollment worked for North Central (3rd), Pike (5th), Lake Central (8th), and Noblesville (10th) the last 20-25 years? HSE and Fishers have had some pretty meh to bad teams over the years despite having large enrollments and high socioeconomic demographics. Culture, Coaching, Commitment. That is the common theme among programs with sustained success. Enrollment and socioeconomic factors are not defined either of those. Quit using Tech. What is the difference between Noblesville, Fishers, HSE vs Center Grove other than Center Grove having nearly 1000 less students?

I didn’t stutter.

Center Grove would lose its socio-economic advantage if it joined the HCC and would still run roughshed in that conference despite being one of the smaller schools. Enrollment nor socio-economic factors dictate coaching, culture, commitment. No. North Central. Pike. Noblesville. HSE. Fishers. Neither means a damn thing.

You’re talking in circles. There’s nothing that ensures enrollment or socio-economic demographics guarantees or dictates success. Clearly as you’ve been given examples of each end of the spectrum. Culture, coaching, commitment however are common themes in successful programs, enrollment or socio-economic demographics be damned.

Then explain to me Noblesville. Or Fishers. Or HSE. Suburban mega-schools with socio-economic demographics at the complete other end of the spectrum. What’s the causation for their meddling performances? Sure as hell ain’t what you’re preaching.

Or...just don't make dumb comments. The enrollment disparity between Warsaw and Warren is similar to the enrollment disparity between Warren and Carmel, in terms of raw # of students. Bet I'll never catch you on here saying its dangerous for Warren to play Carmel.

Yeah, but is it dangerous?

someone tell @temptationthat this is a dangerous idea.

Your direct quote.... "Eh, I think asking a school of 2400 to play against a school of 5200 is dangerous". If it's simply a numbers game as you suggest, why the sudden change of tune? Full disclosure, if you're a school with 2400 students and can't field a football team to the point where it would be dangerous to play on a Friday night against a Carmel or Ben Davis then we're talking about a completely different power struggle to the point where bumping you down a class is a moot point.

So it’s more than just a numbers/enrollment game? Thanks for making the point.

What about a school of 1200 playing against 5200? Based on your posting history why is this now suddenly a problem?

IU is 11-5 in the B10 the last 2 years. Hardly the scenario you ascribe. They won 6 B10 games alone last year. Try harder.

No. IU needs to beat their weekly opponent. Period. IU has no control over Penn State or Michigan’s final record. The same sad statement Purdue fans use over and over to discredit IU’s last two seasons is laughable. “Beat somebody with a winning record” as if that is an insult. Just imagine if Purdue could BEAT teams with a losing record? The two programs are going in opposite directions and in a hurry.

IU added some really solid transfers this offseason. Added former top 50 recruit DJ Matthews from Florida State who should replace Whop Philiyor in the slot Added Ryder Anderson DE from Ole Miss who immediately gives IU a solid pass rusher, the one thing IU's defense lacked last year Interior lineman Zach Carpenter from Michigan who started for the Wolverines last year. Those won't show up in any recruiting rankings but 3 players who should all contribute immediately for a team set to return 17-18 starters.

Good move for him, should be the feature back. Has had a ton of durability issues dating back to his sophomore year of high school. Looked good at USC but due to injuries was passed up by some other backs and limited to short down/goal line situations.

Well we’re talking about the Jaguars so who knows 😆 But I do think Urban has “earned” his chance at shot in the NFL. Not convinced his cut out for it. But if something thinks, and is willing to pay $12/mil a year for Urban, more power to them.

Not sure how Meyer translates in the NFL. Always viewed him as a great recruiter and master program builder that surrounded himself with the best coordinators and simply had a monopoly on his competition, none of which matters in the NFL. Not sure he’s the greatest X’s and O’s coach don’t think his scheme is conducive to the NFL.

And why I harped for two weeks that a 3 loss team didn’t deserve to be in a NY6 bowl.

That’s hindsight. You could make the same argument about 3 loss Florida. You knew that team wasn’t going to show up. Yes, IU didn’t put up, but still doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve a better bowl.

IU’s loss had zilch to do with Ole Miss “stars” and everything to do with one team preparing and executing a game plan better than their opponent. IU beat plenty of more “talented” teams than Ole Miss this year that had several more 4 and 5 star recruits. Not sure why you always have to go down this rabbit hole?

Indiana talked the talked but failed to walk the walk. Still doesn’t excuse the fact IU was jobbed. Both things can be true.

Ever.

I think long term Tuttle is fine with reps and experience. I like his mobility in and outside the pocket. But yes doesn’t have near the arm strength of Penix. I remember a lot of people saying there wasn’t a huge difference between Ramsey and Penix and that was put to rest this year.

Play calling didn’t put IU in a great position. Tuttle’s a serviceable back up, similar to Ramsey without the reps or experience, and it showed today. Really struggled to push the ball down the field and locked on to too many receivers. However, IU neglected to run the ball the first 2.5 quarters and likely did them in. IU’s defense was ok today but if you would have told me IU held the Ole Miss offense to 26 points, I would have guessed IU was a 2-3 TD Victor.

Opting out is what cowards do. Not particularly happy with the result (or the offensive play calling) but you don’t sit that game out. Ever.