Boilernation

Hey, stop dragging me into this never ending impossible to prove any side correct type of subjective argument, lol. I will say I was in the stands while Zionsville beat Franklin Central. I don't believe for a second the defense I saw that night could have stopped Crown Point's OL and Run game. Zionsville had 191 yards rushing that night with a smaller OL than Crown Point and a Junior RB (Manna) who is not as good as Ellison. I also saw nothing from FC's offense to make me think Crown Point's DL and LB'ers would have struggled with them. It is what it is. Westfield's lines dominated Crown Point in crappy weather and the MOV will forever be used as definitie proof that subjective opinions are correct.

Ultimately though, I always think cash is king. Places like Cal don't have it. Too many schools affiliated with the University of California school system and funding for athletics is not a high priority. And I would definately go the Cignetti route. Mature, experienced coach who can scheme and build a culture. It worked once with Tiller, but it's fair to admit that was at a completely different time and he got very lucky when a youngster in Austin hurt his arm and the Texas schools stopped recruiting him.

Got ya. Worst team, very likely. Worst job? I guess it just depends on how you look at. An empty coupboard can be corrected a lot quicker nowadays with the portal. NIL and Conference Revenue are important as well. I would think there are much worse jobs out there, like Cal.

You think a coach looking at Purdue cares about this years record or who is going to Bowl games? Are you saying it’s the worst job among Power 4 or just the worst team this year? Maybe I misunderstood you.

Ryan Poles did not look happy at the podium today. Looked like a man who had been clipped by Warren.

Well, for starters there are only 4 power conferences. And it's truly hard to guage without knowing each schools NIL collective. We do know that Purdue will have much more Revenue from being in the Big Ten than most schools. I would say why is Purdue a difinitively worse job than the following low hanging fruit: Big 12: Kansas, CIncinnati, UCF, West Virginia ACC: Syracuse, Boston College, Duke, Virginia, Call, Stanford, Wake Forest Again, without knowing NIL availability, it's truly hard to gauge who is better or worse for a perspective coach.

And waiting for Tibbs to hit the portal.

the worst? Seems a little hyperbolic. It's still the Big Ten. Plenty of coached who know they aren't getting a job at a National Title contender would be interested. Find a proven leader who can schem and build culture. Shoot for a consistant 7-9 win season type of program.

it's well known Dan Quinn was one of the finalists when Flus was hired. Per Dave Kaplan, a former Bears exec told him the Bears flew Quinn into Chicago with a middle seat coach ticket in the back of the plane.

Various Chicago reporters on Thursday mentioned that it was taking longer than normal to have access to the Bears locker room post game. I just heard on Chicago radio that multiple players were screaming at Flus after the game with Jaylon Johnson leading the way. And Poles definately told Warren / McCaskey he was firing Flus after the NE game and was told he couldn't.

I would put tape on and break down their strengths and weaknesses and how each team matches up against each other. But, I’m not paid to do that, nor would I be the best at it.

Here is the original comment. Again, if you officiate a DAC or SAC or NIC game next season with a 6A team I suggest you own this comment in person and ask those coaches if they honestly believe they have a chance. Of course history is massively against the true North in the largest class. Still doesn’t make it a condescending comment, imo. Especially from someone who sometimes shares a field with those coaches and players.

Brownsburg beat Westfield by 30 last year and Westfield still managed to win out in the HCC. The MOV from one independent game is a meaningless.

Fair point. I looked up who hired Ditka and it was George Halas. I think it’s fair to say the McCaskeys have never hired an alpha male. It’s really a shame that Mugs Halas died in his ‘50’s in 1979. Perhaps the fortunes of the Bears would have been much different if Mugs carried the torch as opposed to the McCaskeys via Virginia.

Agree with point 1. Would Michigan players ever let OSU plant a flag in AnnArbor regardless of how they acted leading up to the game?

I doubt we could find it documented. Seems moreso hearsay from Chicago radio and former players who go on Chicago radio that the McCaskeys don’t want an alpha coach.

Why put a blemish on your resume for an owner who holds you accountable for results while tying one hand behind your back? The next hire has to be 100% Poles’ choice. It’s his job as GM.

LOL. Yeah, that’s trashy. Still don’t think Ohio State players should just let the Michigan players plant TWO Michigan flags in the middle of the O. Would Michigan players allow the same in Ann Arbor?

Victory Lap. And it was just me. Not multiple guys. And you continue to miss my point. Sack up and actually tell a coach from Crown Point, Penn, Carroll, etc while reffing one of their games that they’re just playing for a red ribbon. Nobody is disputing that is how history has played. You condescendingly said they shouldn’t actually believe they have a chance. Nothing will change for Crown Point or Carroll’s of 6A North if they just accept your defeatist attitude.

Seriously? YOU suggested all young men playing 6A ball North of 24 should accept the fact they’re playing for participation trophy’s, doubled down on the take, and then made a victory lap post after Crown Point lost. Glass houses.

Supposedly Poles wanted to fire Flus after the New England game and couldn’t get approval. He should walk if he can’t hire HIS guy and doesn’t just have to placate to George and Kevin.

Can't fault Ohio State, imo. They can't let Michigan try to plant their flag in the O.