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Yes New Pal turned it over 3 times very early in the game. As a matter of fact I think in the first Quarter it had been fumbled 3 times but the Dragons recovered one of them and they also threw 1 Int. It was very uncharacteristic of Neligh. I know BTF mentioned when he watched the breakdown of it by Coach Ralph he didn't care for the him against Sniders athletes. I honestly do think that New Pal was stunned early on by the Panthers speed and athletes. I took from Coach Ralph's talking about it that he could tell on film how athletic they were, but he was unsure how his players would react when they saw it up close and personal. Being someone who watches a lot of offensive schemes I thought the breakdowns were great. My favorite parts were when Coach Ralph talked about the timing between Steibling and Hippenhammer, also when he tried some formations and motions to get Snider into their Cover 3 based on tendency so he could utilize a couple of their passing concepts. It is not something new or special that Offensive CoOrdinators do but I enjoyed him breaking it down. I look forward to the game tonight between Chatard and New Palestine it should be a very good game. Also @CaptainHook proud of little Hook he has been fun to watch when I can in college too! I wish him the best in his future regardless what that is. Take care!

Yes CG has had some terrific QB talent the past few years that have skill set to be able to run some spread. When they pop into the Wing T it is almost like they could do it blindfolded.

Like a youth coach who thinks they know everything. At least that seems what it is in that post. I will state very clearly: One of the BEST programs in the State of Indiana is Center Grove. Their youth program is also one of the best in the State. They run the Wing T in their Bantham League and with their Junior Trojans. You have seen them at the High School level run a little more spread because they have been blessed with some QB's that bring a skill set for that. Their bread and butter has been the Wing T and I would bet every player on their varsity roster can line up in the Wing T and run plays out of it in their sleep because they have been doing it since the 2nd grade. The youth coaches have to buy into it. The Power T as well as the Wing T can lend itself to youth football because you don't need giant lines to run it. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th grade should be about teaching it after that they should know it well.

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I think there is better competition between the teams left in 5A. East Central bumping from 4A to 5A has helped that. I am still a proponent that there should be 32 teams in 6A and 32 teams in 1A the 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A can all be 62 teams. I think that will make 5A even stronger. While competition between teams left in 5A is even I still think some 4A teams could compete or beat the 5A teams left (New Pal, Chatard, Martinsville, Mishawaka, East Noble). I think if you went to 62 teams in 5A you would get at least half of the remaining teams playing in 4A in 5A and it would be even more competitive. Just my opinion.

Lafayette Jefferson might have something to say for Merrillville. Of course the Bronchos have to play disciplined defense so Warsaw won't eat that clock up on them. I haven't watched them play this year but they have been lighting up the scoreboard in many games. They have a common opponent (Laff Jeff and Merrillville) in Michigan City, Laff Jeff won 17-13 and Merrillville won 14-12 so looks like it could be a great game. If both win their regional I think the game will be at Laff Jeff. On the other side you have Decatur Central hosting East Central, the winner of that game might be at Lucas Oil Stadium for the South. East Central while not quite the same as last season is still a very solid team. Decatur Central always has athletes. Just curious why the statement about Decatur Central. A lot of the players that played FW Snider in the State Championship last year were Sophomores. This year they are Juniors with the exception of Dodo who will be a SR. They will return pretty much the same squad next year too. They lost in week 1 to Columbus North who was pretty solid, and lost in week 3 to Martinsville (who made a miraculous comeback similar to Brownsburg/Ben Davis game) but even Martinsville is still playing in 4A Regional. The game I really wanted to see was DC vs New Pal, it was tied 21-21 when the game was called and never resumed (not sure why they didn't finish on Saturday it still baffles me). I'm just curious of the disdain for the Hawks because I don't think they are a terrible team. I do think they have a battle coming up with East Central though.

Yes, they could look in Bloomington. There is this Coach Curt Cignetti, if they google him they will see he wins. Only kidding! I have been pondering some possible candidates since last night.

I really do hope you hit up that link I posted of Coach Ralph and his break down of each quarter of the 2015 game against Snider. I think you will find he gave tons of credit to FW Snider and the types of players they had as well as a look into his thinking during the game and how he tested things early on to get Snider into the coverage he wanted to exploit them with his scheme. I have seen a couple of his clinic presentations and his thinking around his offensive scheme is interesting to learn. I think you will see why he has had the success he has at New Pal even with taking the talented 2018/2019 squad out of the equation.

Thank you and it was an honest question because you have seen more of FW North than I have.

I can get on board with that. I definitely wouldn't be betting on the Crown Point vs Noblesville game. Before I state why it may be the fastest High School football game. Not that Noblesville was some world beaters or anything at 2-8, but that Power T offense they had really ate clock and limited possessions for their opponents. They just did a not great job of finishing late in games. This was evidenced by their game against Brownsburg: Noblesville time of possession 40:32 and Brownsburg time of possession 7:28 final score Browsnburg won 22-18. Noblesville would be a betting nightmare against the spread🤣 Edit: I should clarify, I still think Crown Point would win, I just wouldn't want to bet on any point spread.

It is fascinating to rewatch the videos Coach Ralph made with Coach Anderson breaking that game down quarter by quarter. Coach Ralph's brutal honesty and how he eventually found ways to exploit Snider after 1 and a half quarters. Watching coaches on the sidelines is totally different when you hear Coach Ralph talk about how he is testing early on to see what the other team will give him and he ends up exploiting it. There is a reason Coach Ralph in 11 seasons is 138-14. I really enjoyed his series where he breaks down games and his thought process leading up to and during the games. Best of luck to the Dragons Friday night should be a good game between the Trojans and Dargons. Both coaches have really good Offsensive football minds.

It is still a wide variety. Indy area, Indy metro, indy (whatever the chosen words are). Inside the donut consists of 18 schools 2=1A, 4=2A, 3=3A, 5=4A, 0=5A, 3=6A (your 6A consist of Cathedral, Arsenal Tech, and Pike). Outside the donut (depending on where you draw the line of demarcation) consists of about 39-40 schools 1=1A, 6=2A, 4=3A, 9=4A, 4=5A, 16-6A (your 6A consist of Avon, Ben Davis, Brownsburg, Carmel, Center Grove, Fishers, Franklin Central, Hamilton Southeastern, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, Noblesville, Perry Meridian, Southport, Warren Central, Westfield, Zionsville). There is a huge range from really bad, middle of the road, and really good. Ben Davis while 5-6 this year I bet not many Northern teams would want to play them with their speed and size. Carmel is definitely down but is a hot bed with talent something is going on with coaching (they are 5 years from a State Championship), Not many have seen Brownsburg because of their failures in tournament time to Ben Davis and Cathedral. Fishers and HSE have played tag your it with Carmel and Westfield. Westfield is the hottest growing right now. I know a lot has been mentioned about Buzea and what he is doing at Crown Point the same could be said about Westfield from the time Jake Gilbert took over (he has left and gone to Wabash College but his top assitant is in charge now) and continued with Josh Miracle. Westfield was in a Double OT game with Crown Point last year, this year they look really solid but the last 4 season were: Double OT loss to Crown Point in Semi-State, a regional loss to HSE, back to back State Championship runner up losing to Center Grove 38-14 and 27-21 not too shabby for a team that moved from 5A to 6a in 2018. Not disagreeing with you but one question. Do you think Lawrence North vs Fort Wayne North in November would be the same score as it was in week 2 in August? Week 1 (August) of the season Lawrence North 33 Lawrence Central 26 and week 10 (November) Lawrence North 40 Lawrence Central 9 (granted LN vs LC is a big rivalry since they all played together in Middle school and Junior league). Just curious. I can jive with this and have no problem with it. I will say what Coach Moore has done at Center Grove is astounding. His first season they were 5-5 and he lost tight or respectable games to Carmel 26-23, Ben Davis 28-14, Warren Central 21-7 (Ben Davis was eventual State Champion in 1999). In year 2 they were 13-2 lost in regular season (week 5) to Ben Davis which they avenged in Semi-State in shocking fashion eventually losing to Coach Geesman's Penn 21-0 in State Championship. Coach Buzea is on the same path maybe a little slower start, but lets be honest the turnaround at CG was abnormally quick. Center Grove was in year 2 of the MIC when Coach Moore was hired.

The most likely answer he is a teenage kid that made a mistake.

Sorry I am struggling to see you point. Indy Metro consists of a lot of smaller schools too. I mean I can name 4 Schools within a 5-10 mile radius around Lawrence Township That I feel could beat every team on Crown Point Schedule by multiple scores. Cathedral, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, and Chatard. I guess I don't understand the pride that Crown Point and a couple other Northern teams could beat Park Tudor, Heritage Christian, Shortridge, Attucks, or another one of the many small schools in Indy Metro.

In all honesty Crown Point was the 6th best team Ben Davis played last year. They played Cincy Moeller and IMG in the regular season. While Ben Davis beat Crown Point 38-10 in Lucas Oil for State. You have to remember. Brownsburg (was 9-0 at the time) played BD in the first round of sectionals. Ben Davis made a miraculous 4th qtr come back to win 28-25 at home (I still can't believe Brownsburg blew that game). In Regionals beat Cathedral 27-24 at University of Indianapolis BD Intercepted a O'Neil pass in the endzone as time expired and Cathedral was driving. Then in Semi-State Ben Davis pulled out a 37-34 Overtime win at home. All were played on field turf and weather was not an issue. The Indy Metro was pretty solid. Pike, Avon, and North Central were not good Carmel was Mediocre Lawrence North was pretty solid.

Those top 3 all pretty close there in rating 41.7, 41.3, and 40.4 Be interesting to see how Calpreps predictions comes out About as close to a 50/50 as you can get

Then you have to worry about IU commit Chandler 6'0" 170 lbs and Sales 6'5" 195 lbs and D. Moore 5'8" 162 (Moore and Sales were on the 4x100 relay team). They have speed to burn.

They definitely created pure chaos with their defense! They were very aggressive which helped them tremendously after their offense had turned the ball over. They were relentless very fast on the back end to cover man to man and speed in the box to aggressively get to the QB. The Sophomore RB I can almost guarantee gives Defensive Coordinator's and defensive position coaches pucker moments every time he touches the ball. He makes cuts so quick and hits top speed immediately.

Center Grove 28 Warren Central 21 Lawrence North 34 Brownsburg 21 Westfield 38 Fishers 21

Actually in the first half Cathedral held Lawrence North's offense to like 87 total yards and had multiple interceptions giving them a short field. For the entire game Cathedral held LN to 93 passing yards 1 TD and 138 rushing yards 1 TD. Aside from 1 or 2 moments the Irish defense did their part and kept them in check. Lawrence North had to use their defense to help take the lead early which made them a little more impressive to me. It is no easy task for any team to hold that speed down, which is why Cathedral needed to take care of their opportunities, LN's defense was up to the task to prevent that.

The craziest Box Score I ever posted for @temptation a few weeks back.

Let me hopefully clarify the best I can. With all the variables and unpredictability of the HCC. It is not easy to predict what Crown Points record would be in the HCC just as it is not easy to predict any HCC teams record.