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Toughest schedules in 2A
hhpatriot04 replied to itiswhatitis's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
How is Luers this season? I've not followed the North in 2A. -
When HH has the personnel and it's working, the power Wishbone is a definite fan favorite, but more so a Coach Clayton remnant and the Flexbone provides another look when you don't have a great throwing QB and don't want to be forced into obvious spread sets in passing situations. That and the pass defense are credit to Coach Wilkerson and staff, and definitely seem to fit HH's current personnel compared to the slew of talent Coach Clayton had to run the Wishbone exclusively or spread it out with QBs like Cutler and others.
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Daniel Buck T Kankakee Valley 6-5, 295lbs
hhpatriot04 replied to a topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Agile linemen fit Southridge's schemes perfectly. Every once and a while they'll get a "haus" but you won't see him put in positions required to pull or loop as say a tackle on a wide toss... Or maybe I just have a soft spot for linemen who are 6-2, 230 (me) and fit into an odd front at NG or rush end in even front pass defenses, but don't have the speed to project as a LB in college... -
SW Indiana Freshman and JV News
hhpatriot04 replied to gahoosierfan's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Oh I had in my head he was a junior last year, maybe because he didn't get to play b his final baseball season. It is great that Simon and Crews will get to play baseball together at UE. Crews played summer ball and the hamstring seems to be close to healthy. He's seemingly been in college for six years, but made the most of it and is on track to get his masters, according to Mike. -
Oh you know both teams always have a wrinkle for these matches. Hope that's enough to keep it close against the Titans' D1 QB, while HH has a case of fumblitis this season.
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I'm very surprised at the number of posters speculating that either team wouldn't do everything in their power to win a game. You're making it sound like a Tier 2 or 3 college bowl game, where an NFL prospect would sit out to avoid risk of injury. If both teams remain undefeated or even if Cathedral stumbles against the GCL teams, the game has state, Midwest, and national ranking implications. That's a once in a decade or more match-up.
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Daniel Buck T Kankakee Valley 6-5, 295lbs
hhpatriot04 replied to a topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Bigger isn't always better on an OL or DL. I don't want an OT who can't get to the linebacker level by the time a RB hits a hole. Just as I don't care how big a NG is if he can't draw a double team. -
More solid in the middle tier. I see Mater Dei (just wait), Central (Mooresville could be tough if they (Central) make it out of the sectional), and North (Bloomington South always tough and a good Floyd Central team likely to come out of the other sectional) with realistic shots at semistate.
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Went to Yappi to see if my account is still active -- I must've misplaced my password, but I did find this: http://yappi.com/forum/index.php?threads/gcl-south-2020-includes-poll.333736/page-5 La Salle played very well defensively last night after the first couple drives against the best back they've seen this season and the biggest (not best ... that's X) line. That said, Manual didn't have a QB that posed any threat whatsoever. And I guess we'll see what's going on with Payne. P Pope Francis 1 Well-known member Saturday at 8:24 AM #124 Cathedral D line was putting crazy pressure on X QB’s.
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SW Indiana Freshman and JV News
hhpatriot04 replied to gahoosierfan's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
@DaveMosbey I know you keep us updated on the lower levels on your site http://hhqbclub.com/history, but could you please share HH's Freshman and JV scores for us who are too lazy to click back and forth? Please. I'll buy you a Patriot Dog and Diet Mt Dew at the next HH game I'm able to attend (maybe basketball this year... I anticipate being home Dec 20-Jan 6 for the holidays for the first time in two years). I really want to see Sisley and Sherri in action, and catch up with several others. -
Toughest schedules in 2A
hhpatriot04 replied to itiswhatitis's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Wow that's an accomplishment. HH used to dress all freshmen in 2-3 home games per year. The freshman still field a competitive team (7-9 games) with I think around 24 players this season, but it tends to drop to 12-16 by sophomore year. So at its best, 3A HH only ever dressed maybe 60-65 for a few home games. They always dress and put a QB, 1-2 athletes, and a kicker on the regular and playoff roster -- players who are expected to immediately contribute to varsity as sophomores and the QB so he learns the offense and some leadership. -
Does anyone have a link to the SIAC All-Sports Titles of recent? All I found is this, which is terribly out of date. When I was at the Courier (almost 7 years ago), Coach Neidig would email or fax all things SIAC. I think Jasper could really shake things up, given its overall solid athletic program and state-level competitiveness in sports like tennis, golf, swimming, baseball, etc...
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Toughest schedules in 2A
hhpatriot04 replied to itiswhatitis's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Impressive. Do they dress freshmen? -
I did not mean to imply anyone is teaching without the requirements. I do believe the state passed a law around 2012 making it possible to teach courses with an accredited university degree, then I believe they have a certain amount of time to get a teaching license... I do think it's feasible for a school corporation to hire a trainer who doesn't teach classes, just as they might hire a landscaping company to mow, police for event security, or a paving company to work on the parking lot. It's up to the school boards in Indiana, elected by townships, to allocate funds as they see fit, so long as they are not breaking DOE rules/Indiana state law.
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I agree and wish the Irish all the luck against another formidable out-of-state opponent. Best slot receiver in the state? Better than Mockobee of Booonville who's headed to Navy as an ATH/RB/WR/DB (I don't follow recruiting ratings too closely)? He's playing RB because a handoff is much easier than a pass for Boonville. He still catches passes out of the backfield... When is the reclassification cycle re the success factor?
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Toughest schedules in 2A
hhpatriot04 replied to itiswhatitis's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Mostly yes (see Mater Dei now in a closed SIAC schedule), but there is some leeway depending on number of conference games. In 3A, Heritage Hills and Gibson Southern have had similar success in the same conference and sectional/regional. Currently, GS has a SoS of 43 (playing Columbus North and Whiteland); HH has one of 134 (playing two 2A schools which I think have beaten them a combined three times over the past 20 years). The philosophic difference in SoS and playing players two-ways (HH tends to play more players two ways, GS might only play 1-2) has been similar in recent years for both teams. Previously they had two non-conference games and now three with the PAC splitting into two divisions. My argument is SoS is largely overrated in 1A-3A, regardless of choices in scheduling. There are pros and cons both ways, but I don't see one way definitively being better despite the success of teams like Luers, Andrean, and Mater Dei in 2A. -
What do you all think is the biggest difference between North and Central? - Talent - Mistakes (namely penalties and turnovers have been a bug-a-boo of recent Central teams) - Coaching Or is it a 50/50 game, where we are splitting hairs in speculation?
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Whose year is it to technically be the "home team" -- in other words, who will wear red and who will wear blue. Scoreboard, PA, and timing are all responsibilities of the home team, regardless, right?
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Yep, a Cathedral poster brought up in a recent thread that since the Irish have begun using Arlington's field (they have no football team), a local Cathedral supporter who owns a landscaping company takes care of the maintenance of the field. I'm sure his company receives something in exchange, either a banner, game program ad, or radio ad spot... I think it's quite common and is part of what makes sports (and some other activities like industrial ed/technical classes with partnerships with local businesses) a community endeavor.
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I assume they are contracted by the school corporation, but as I also said, schools are hiring more people with those qualifications while they also might teach a health class (any class for that matter) or be in the administration like a guidance counselor. Even way back 17 years ago, one of my HS biology teachers volunteered his time in the weight room outside of the 180-day school year 9a-5p and also was an assistant football coach. He was a dang good teacher, who now teaches for the highly-selective program to educate the children of US servicemen/women stationed abroad. Another MS science teacher and assistant football coach, became a counselor after he was just a few years away from retirement and the principal preferred to hire another younger science teacher, so they could be supported by more experienced peers during their first years of teaching. ETA: Some doctors volunteer their time at sporting events in exchange for their practice being promoted in game programs or field/stadium banners (they know they'll get referrals).
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Health is an extravagance? Open gyms and lifting sessions are open to all students. An in-house trainer for all sports can be less expensive and better for low-income students who wouldn't get proper medical care following an injury. Certainly, I've never said everyone is on a level playing field socioeconomically. I've proposed different ways to classify schools taking into consideration socioeconomics and population from which a school can pull -- P/Ps and Indy township schools being a classic example especially in the age of open enrollment. Many athletic departments or sport-specific booster clubs receive donations from local companies and private donors including former athletes and other philanthropists. Is it the same at every school? No. However, even Warren Central had a deal a while ago with Underarmor for jerseys/training garb. Other programs have former collegiate or professional athletes who volunteer their expertise at the feeder level or in fundraising promotion. Indy Tech's facilities benefited when Indianapolis hosted the Superbowl last (not sure if it was the NFL or UNFPA). Often when a long-running/successful coach retires or passes away, an academic scholarship is created from their will/trust for HS graduates to more easily attend university/college.
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Toughest schedules in 2A
hhpatriot04 replied to itiswhatitis's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I don't think so. There are plenty of arguments for not playing the most difficult SoS, such as if you have relatively small roster, you want your best players to rest/not risk injury as much. I've seen it first-hand and have concluded at 3A and below SoS means little if anything, when you have players well-coached and capable athletically of getting you through the tournament. Philosophies may differ, but Monday-Tuesday practice was almost always more physically demanding than any game I played in -- same for mental toughness (mistakes) from two-a-days until Weeks 14 and 15. ETA: To clarify 3A and below, that is assuming programs have larger rosters in 4A and above. I know there are always exceptions, but generally that holds true and roster size hasn't prevented success in the lower classes. Your best athlete getting injured because they have to play four quarters, two-ways (or more) can prevent success. -
Toughest schedules in 2A
hhpatriot04 replied to itiswhatitis's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
It should be noted that Mater Dei's SoS is now affected because they play in a "closed" conference schedule. How so? I don't know. Still all of their opponents are now: three 3A, four 4A, and one 5A school. All but two of their opponents are sectional contenders -- some might need a good draw, but those remaining six will likely produce a 4A and 5A sectional champion, along with Mater Dei in 2A. In most recent years, Evansville Memorial would be a sectional favorite in 3A, but now plays in 4A (success factor) and is in a bit of a rebuilding year, but won't be an easy out in the 4A tournament, nor will Vincennes Lincoln in 3A.
