2025 College Football Season

[Sparty]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Betting markets have flipped in the last two hours…might speak to the FAST portion of your statement.

Who are the odds favoring, Dillingham?

[Komets2727]

Jedd Fisch is now one of the fifty favorites to replace Moore…

[Bash Riprock]

Seeing  reports on Dillingham. Guess will see if confirmed. 
 

 

[23andCounting]

Can someone riddle me why there's no consequence for a long time Michigan staffer having a long term affair with a married man who happens to be the head football coach? Maybe I'm missing something. So far, from the outside looking in, it screams pretty ugly. 

[Irishman]

33 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Can someone riddle me why there's no consequence for a long time Michigan staffer having a long term affair with a married man who happens to be the head football coach? Maybe I'm missing something. So far, from the outside looking in, it screams pretty ugly. 

While I don’t disagree with what you ate saying, she was fired which is the reason the whole thing came to light now. He was her boss and because of that, she has all the control. No chance anything further can happen to her. Her reputation will suffer some, but that is it. 

[23andCounting]

24 minutes ago, Irishman said:

While I don’t disagree with what you ate saying, she was fired which is the reason the whole thing came to light now. He was her boss and because of that, she has all the control. No chance anything further can happen to her. Her reputation will suffer some, but that is it. 

I thought I read somewhere that she was hired back and was given a raise. 

[Bobref]

Proving that there is no program or situation that is immune from crazy conspiracy theories. The latest I heard was that Paige Shiver was hired specifically to bring down Coach Moore, so they could fire him with clean hands, “for cause.”

[Irishman]

49 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

I thought I read somewhere that she was hired back and was given a raise. 

I had not seen that yet. It would make sense if she were rehired. It would cost the university a whole lot less than if they chose not to rehire her. 

12 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Proving that there is no program or situation that is immune from crazy conspiracy theories. The latest I heard was that Paige Shiver was hired specifically to bring down Coach Moore, so they could fire him with clean hands, “for cause.”

😳

[Bash Riprock]

 

[Bash Riprock]

Needed….

 

[23andCounting]

9 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Needed….

 

One can only wonder about the basketball program now. I thought Louisville had issues. Michigan might take the cake. Just an observation. No ill will toward the Wolverines. And as I said before, could just be bad luck in hiring men with character issues.

[temptation]

2 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

One can only wonder about the basketball program now. I thought Louisville had issues. Michigan might take the cake. Just an observation. No ill will toward the Wolverines. And as I said before, could just be bad luck in hiring men with character issues.

Never say never.  May seems like an amazing human being but this time last week I would have said the same about Moore.

Side note, though it’s not the kind of notoriety a program would want, anyone find it kind of hysterical that on the day we are crowning the Heisman and a week out from the CFP, Michigan talk is STILL dominating the college football world, including this board?

Kinda comical honestly.

If this were Rutgers, no one would care.

I think this is what the Notre Dame fans on this board refer to as “relevance.”

Edited December 13, 2025 by temptation

[Irishman]

But Notre Dame fans would also know better than to try and make a claim about Michigan not being relevant. 

[temptation]

15 minutes ago, Irishman said:

But Notre Dame fans would also know better than to try and make a claim about Michigan not being relevant. 

Even worse.  An IU fan on this board makes that same claim.

[Komets2727]

3 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

Needed….

 

Michigan public admission that their athletic program is broken and has been broken for years. Now, wait for Temp to say there is no proof of past cheating even after they have hired a law firm to check it out… Just can’t make this crap up…

48 minutes ago, temptation said:

Even worse.  An IU fan on this board makes that same claim.

And a Michigan fan on this board claims Harbaugh didn’t cheat… 

[Bobref]

6 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

And a Michigan fan on this board claims Harbaugh didn’t cheat

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47294863/michigan-begins-investigation-athletic-department

Michigan begins query into athletic department

The University of Michigan has commissioned a full investigation into the practices and culture of its athletic department, centering on how numerous scandals have both occurred and been handled in recent years, a source told ESPN.

The firing of football coach Sherrone Moore this week will be a particular focus.

The investigation will be handled by Jenner & Block, a Chicago-based law firm that has done business with the school in recent years, including conducting the investigation into whether Moore had an inappropriate relationship with a staff member.

The Detroit News first reported the authorization of the investigation.

The firm opened an inquiry earlier this fall about the conduct of Moore and a staff member after the university received an anonymous tip, multiple sources told ESPN. Both Moore and the staff member denied the relationship and not enough evidence emerged to confirm it.

That changed Wednesday when, according to prosecutors in Washtenaw County, Michigan, the staff member told investigators it did occur and presented corroborating evidence. The staff member had, on Monday, broken off the multiyear relationship, according to prosecutors, but became concerned when Moore sent a flurry of texts and calls that were unreturned.

The university promptly fired Moore on Wednesday for the relationship. Soon after, Moore went to the staff member's apartment just outside Ann Arbor and, according to prosecutors, barged in, grabbed kitchen scissors and some butter knives. He then threatened to kill himself.

"I'm going to kill myself," Moore said, according to first assistant prosecutor Kati Rezmierski. "I'm going to make you watch. My blood is on your hands. You ruined my life."

Moore, a married father of three, was charged Friday on three counts, including felony home invasion and misdemeanor charges of stalking in a domestic relationship and breaking and entering. Moore pleaded not guilty, and a probable cause hearing was set for Jan. 22, 2026.

Friday evening, after spending two nights in jail, Moore was released on a $25,000 bond with a GPS monitoring system and an order to receive counseling.

This is the latest in a series of scandals that have hit both the athletic department and the university as a whole. It includes a federal indictment in March of former offensive coordinator Matt Weiss, who is facing 24 charges of unauthorized access to computers and aggravated identity theft.

Prosecutors from the Eastern District of Michigan allege that Weiss ran a vast, multiyear effort to access the personal accounts of thousands of NCAA student-athletes across the country. He is charged with targeting specific female athletes to access personal and intimate photographs and videos.

Some of the alleged crimes, the feds say, occurred while Weiss was working inside the school's football facility, Schembechler Hall from 2021 to 2022, and during a previous stint with the NFL's Baltimore Ravens.

There have been additional run-ins with the NCAA rules, including the high-profile 2023 advanced scouting operation centered around former football staffer Connor Stalions. The NCAA hit the program with four years of probation and a fine that could reach over $30 million.

Former football coach Jim Harbaugh was sanctioned with numerous suspensions in his final years at the school for both the advanced scouting situation and recruiting violation. Harbaugh left to become the head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers in January 2024. Moore, who was promoted from offensive coordinator to succeed Harbaugh, has also twice been suspended by the NCAA. He still owes a one-game penalty, which was to be served in 2026, for deleting a thread of text messages sent to Stalions.

The series of scandals have put a spotlight on athletic department as a whole, including on director Warde Manuel, an alum and former player for the Bo Schembechler-led Wolverines of the late 1980s. Manuel has been on the job since 2016.

A high-level meeting of university officials was held Thursday evening, sources told ESPN, leading to intense speculation about Manuel's future, but he remains on the job. The university would owe Manuel, 57, who signed a new five-year contract in December 2024, about $6.75 million if it dismissed him without cause.

On Thursday, interim university president Domenico Grasso, in a letter to the campus community, asked anyone with knowledge of the Moore situation to provide it via a confidential reporting system.

"Together, we will move forward with integrity and excellence, and reaffirm our dedication to serving the public good," Grasso wrote.

Despite all of the tumult, the Wolverines' athletic department is mostly thriving in competition, including the football program winning the 2023 national title. Currently both the men's and women's basketball teams are ranked in the top six nationally. Hockey is No. 1.

Meanwhile, the university has consistently set institutional records for the undergraduate application numbers in recent years, hitting 98,310 for the incoming freshman class this year, per federal filings from the university. That is up from 79,743 for 2022, an 18.9% jump in just three years.

Jenner & Block has a long-standing relationship with the university, including, in 2022, investigating an inappropriate relationship between then school president Mark Schlissel and a university employee that led to Schlissel's removal from office

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Never say never.  May seems like an amazing human being but this time last week I would have said the same about Moore.

Side note, though it’s not the kind of notoriety a program would want, anyone find it kind of hysterical that on the day we are crowning the Heisman and a week out from the CFP, Michigan talk is STILL dominating the college football world, including this board?

Kinda comical honestly.

If this were Rutgers, no one would care.

I think this is what the Notre Dame fans on this board refer to as “relevance.”

@Irishman really took the words out of my mouth. Much respect for Michigan. Again, I might change my mind after a thorough investigation. But for now, I'm going to roll with bad luck. And for the record, every university, including Indiana, has a bombshell blonde somewhere on their staff, normally in recruiting. Go ahead and read between the lines.

Relevant with or without last year's title. Football is better when the Wolverines are in the conversation.

[temptation]

42 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Michigan public admission that their athletic program is broken and has been broken for years. Now, wait for Temp to say there is no proof of past cheating even after they have hired a law firm to check it out… Just can’t make this crap up…

And a Michigan fan on this board claims Harbaugh didn’t cheat… 

 

[Irishman]

Heisman voting:
 

[Bash Riprock]

6 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Heisman voting:
 

Read that Fernando finished first in every region. Wasn’t close. Way to go Fernando!! 

Wonder if accurate??

 

[PHJIrish]

Coach Cignetti and Coach Freeman ain't goiin' anywhere!  Write that down!  They're both quite secure, and well compensated, where they're at.

[GOLDRUSH1985]

12 hours ago, temptation said:

 

Replacing one Cheater for Another . 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/12/10/michigan-fires-sherrone-moore-reputation-takes-another-big-hit-jim-harbaugh-ncaa-cheating/87708595007/

[Bash Riprock]

Will see more…

 

[Bash Riprock]

[Irishman]

Unfortunate to see this. He is a tough competitor, but will lose a lot of support acting like this.