5A Tournament: OFFICIAL Thread

[Komets2727]

2 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

Who ya got?

If Cathedral is close to healthy I like the Irish to win a close game, like 31-28

[temptation]

1 hour ago, Komets2727 said:

If Cathedral is close to healthy I like the Irish to win a close game, like 31-28

You Fort Wayne dudes are wild.

[Komets2727]

32 minutes ago, temptation said:

You Fort Wayne dudes are wild.

Take it you have New PAL by 50???

[SMAUG]

1 hour ago, Komets2727 said:

If Cathedral is close to healthy I like the Irish to win a close game, like 31-28

I do understand taking Cathedral in this one - history, but I would say 10-7.  NP has surrendered 32 points this season including second halves devoid of starters.

[23andCounting]

8 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

If Cathedral is close to healthy I like the Irish to win a close game, like 31-28

I really don't know anything about injuries and whatnot. Just looking at the scoreboard, I'm thinking about a blowout loss to Brownsburg and close wins against Ben Davis and Warren Central. To me, that screams 10-14 point win by New Pal. On the other side of the coin, the Irish did manage to beat two pretty good football teams in Chatard and Center Grove. New Pal hasn't played a good team in 10 weeks, though Plainfield will be a nice little tune-up for them heading into the Cathedral game. And for that reason, I've gotta give the edge to New Pal. It may take them a quarter or two to adjust to playing a real team, but I see them warming up around mid second quarter. Let's say Dragons by 7-9 points.

[23andCounting]

7 hours ago, temptation said:

You Fort Wayne dudes are wild.

Not sure where that came from. Komets tends to nail games like that. I don't see anything "wild" about that prediction. The only "wild" thing I see about us "Fort Wayne dudes" is that we even take the time to handicap a game two hours away. Be flattered that we take interest in your teams and say "thank you" next time. 

[temptation]

3 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

Not sure where that came from. Komets tends to nail games like that. I don't see anything "wild" about that prediction. The only "wild" thing I see about us "Fort Wayne dudes" is that we even take the time to handicap a game two hours away. Be flattered that we take interest in your teams and say "thank you" next time. 

New Pal by 3 possessions.

[Rodney]

New pal still has to play plainfield this week. Which will probably be a decent game, and 

Uh well cathedral just has another bye

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

New Pal by 3 possessions.

You sure about that?

[temptation]

7 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

You sure about that?

Fairly confident.  17 point victory.

New Pal will have had 8 weeks to prepare for this game.

 

Edited October 26, 2025 by temptation

[23andCounting]

4 minutes ago, temptation said:

Fairly confident.  17 point victory.

New Pal will have had 8 weeks to prepare for this game.

 

Even if the team that beat Center Grove shows up?

I think I said 7-9 points. I think I'll stand by that. New Pal hasn't seen a team of this caliber. Decatur Central doesn't qualify. I think the Dragons are in for a rude awakening until they adjust. I wouldn't even be surprised if Cathedral wins this. 

Even though New Pal's schedule is pretty week, I acknowledge that they might be the third best team in the state this year. That'll be an interesting game in two weeks. 

Obviously severe speculation on my part as I've only seen four games in person this year. 

[temptation]

15 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Even if the team that beat Center Grove shows up?

I think I said 7-9 points. I think I'll stand by that. New Pal hasn't seen a team of this caliber. Decatur Central doesn't qualify. I think the Dragons are in for a rude awakening until they adjust. I wouldn't even be surprised if Cathedral wins this. 

Even though New Pal's schedule is pretty week, I acknowledge that they might be the third best team in the state this year. That'll be an interesting game in two weeks. 

Obviously severe speculation on my part as I've only seen four games in person this year. 

Decatur Central ABSOLUTELY counts. 

[23andCounting]

2 minutes ago, temptation said:

Decatur Central ABSOLUTELY counts. 

Same level as Cathedral? C'mon.

[temptation]

18 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Same level as Cathedral? C'mon.

Yep, maybe better.

[23andCounting]

1 minute ago, temptation said:

Yep, maybe better.

Not buying it. Beating Avon in overtime and only losing to NP by three touchdowns qualifies them for big boy discussion? What' happened to "show me?"

[temptation]

1 minute ago, 23andCounting said:

Not buying it. Beating Avon in overtime and only losing to NP by three touchdowns qualifies them for big boy discussion? What' happened to "show me?"

Why so down on Avon?

They have some decent wins and were 2 possessions away from being 7-2.

One of two teams to even be competitive with Brownsburg in the 4th quarter.

(Also, as I pointed out elsewhere, DC lost Polson at the end of the Avon contest and their backup QB’s first start was the week following against New Pal). 

[23andCounting]

10 minutes ago, temptation said:

Why so down on Avon?

They have some decent wins and were 2 possessions away from being 7-2.

One of two teams to even be competitive with Brownsburg in the 4th quarter.

(Also, as I pointed out elsewhere, DC lost Polson at the end of the Avon contest and their backup QB’s first start was the week following against New Pal). 

Not really so down on Avon, but ultimately, you have to win games, right? Who's is their best win over the past three seasons? Bloomington South? New Pal wasn't that good in 2023, so scratch them. Sorry, I'm just not ready to mention DC in the same sentence as Cathedral until they beat someone. I get what your saying about transitive property, losing to Avon in overtime I guess one could say is an impressive loss. I dunno Temp, I just think Cathedral is on another level. 

[temptation]

1 minute ago, 23andCounting said:

Not really so down on Avon, but ultimately, you have to win games, right? Who's is their best win over the past three seasons? Bloomington South? New Pal wasn't that good in 2023, so scratch them. Sorry, I'm just not ready to mention DC in the same sentence as Cathedral until they beat someone. I get what your saying about transitive property, losing to Avon in overtime I guess one could say is an impressive loss. I dunno Temp, I just think Cathedral is on another level. 

Why we gotta preface things with “the last three seasons?”  The Orioles had a regime change and are building something on the west side.  

As for Decatur, can you have it both ways?  They dominated 5A last season but you seem to not be giving them the same “three year” window you are Avon.

Who do you think one of the first calls Warren made when their HC position became available last year was?

I don’t expect DC to make much noise in 6A this postseason (unless the undisciplined version of LN shows up), but they are absolutely on par with Cathedral, specifically this year.
 

[23andCounting]

6 minutes ago, temptation said:

Why we gotta preface things with “the last three seasons?”  The Orioles had a regime change and are building something on the west side.  

As for Decatur, can you have it both ways?  They dominated 5A last season but you seem to not be giving them the same “three year” window you are Avon.

Who do you think one of the first calls Warren made when their HC position became available last year was?

I don’t expect DC to make much noise in 6A this postseason (unless the undisciplined version of LN shows up), but they are absolutely on par with Cathedral, specifically this year.
 

I have a lot of respect for DC and their head coach, they're just not top tier yet. Sorry, can't go there with them. If you're not ready to put Crown Point and Carroll there, you certainly can't put DC there. 

Dominated 5A last year? There was no Snider or Cathedral that season. They barely beat Warsaw. They ended up winning that game by two touchdowns, but Warsaw was on their tail the whole time. 

[temptation]

11 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

I have a lot of respect for DC and their head coach, they're just not top tier yet. Sorry, can't go there with them. If you're not ready to put Crown Point and Carroll there, you certainly can't put DC there. 

Dominated 5A last year? There was no Snider or Cathedral that season. They barely beat Warsaw. They ended up winning that game by two touchdowns, but Warsaw was on their tail the whole time. 

Though they improved and seem to be getting better every week, even the posters on this board have insinuated that this is not a vintage Cathedral squad.  You have to view things on a year to year basis.

Goes to our blue blood conversation in the other thread…

Are they capable of beating New Pal?  

Sure.  

Just don’t think they will.

[Komets2727]

9 hours ago, temptation said:

New Pal by 3 possessions.

Cathedral is a blue blood, period. DC, well, is not….

[Rodney]

4 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Cathedral is a blue blood, period. DC, well, is not….

I agree with you 100%

 

But can we not turn every thread into a debate about who is and isnt blue blood

Because that term doesn't mean shit in reality

[Komets2727]

1 minute ago, Rodney said:

I agree with you 100%

 

But can we not turn every thread into a debate about who is and isnt blue blood

Because that term doesn't mean shit in reality

Fine with me

[PHJIrish]

The latest Sagarin gives Cathedral a SOS of 3 and New Pal a SOS of 88.

[23andCounting]

10 hours ago, PHJIrish said:

The latest Sagarin gives Cathedral a SOS of 3 and New Pal a SOS of 88.

I just think running into Cathedral will be like running into a brick wall for New Pal. I think the Dragons are probably good enough to adjust and win the game. I'm just predicting Cathedral to throw New Pal into a state of shock in the first quarter. We'll see what happens after that.