GID College Football Playoff Committee

[Coach Nowlin]

 

 

 

 

[Bobref]

To be honest, I’m really tired of the endless jibber jabber about who should or shouldn’t be in, and why or why not. It’s exhausting. And however it shakes out, there’s bound to be controversy, and we’ll have to listen to it all over again. And do you think it will be any different when they go to 16? No. Something radical has to be done. And I’ve got the solution. The NCAA’s FBS needs to go to an all-in tournament model.

There are 136 schools in FBS. With 16 first round byes, it would take 8 rounds for a single-elimination tournament. There would be an 8 week regular season, which would mean absolutely nothing in terms of the postseason. Then the tournament would start. And to add to the drama, the byes and matchups would be determined by random drawing, say, using ping pong balls.

The great thing is we know this would work. Indiana is living proof.

[23andCounting]

7 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

I don't care enough one way or the other. Just find it hilarious when ND and their fans try and take the high road on joining a conference and then act like they have no clue why they are left out of things like this when they are.

No clue? Well, I’m pretty sure it’s the two losses. I get it, win. Plain and simple. Just pointing out that ND being left out would be a blessing for everyone else. No one wants to play them right now.

[temptation]

10 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

No clue? Well, I’m pretty sure it’s the two losses. I get it, win. Plain and simple. Just pointing out that ND being left out would be a blessing for everyone else. No one wants to play them right now.

Where are you getting this narrative from?  Because they are beating up on inferior competition?

Really pumped about those wins over Stanford and Boston College?

No one wanted to play Oregon last year and look how that worked out…

This level of invincibility you’ve placed upon the Irish is head scratching.

[23andCounting]

8 minutes ago, temptation said:

Where are you getting this narrative from?  Because they are beating up on inferior competition?

Really pumped about those wins over Stanford and Boston College?

No one wanted to play Oregon last year and look how that worked out…

This level of invincibility you’ve placed upon the Irish is head scratching.

It’s not just me Temp. Analysts, radio show hosts, tv personalities…….Vegas! Your beloved Sagarin. Just say it Temp, they look really good. Even Saban said their defense is much better than they were in weeks one and two when they lost by 4pts to two other Too 12 teams. I haven’t been this confident in a ND team since Lou Holtz. But hey, I get it. Losses matter.

[temptation]

20 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

It’s not just me Temp. Analysts, radio show hosts, tv personalities…….Vegas! Your beloved Sagarin. Just say it Temp, they look really good. Even Saban said their defense is much better than they were in weeks one and two when they lost by 4pts to two other Too 12 teams. I haven’t been this confident in a ND team since Lou Holtz. But hey, I get it. Losses matter.

SP+ is my favorite metric by which to predict college football contests and it currently has ND at #5 and basically a TD underdog against Indiana/Ohio State on a neutral field.

Furthermore it has teams 5-12 separated by a FG, so while yes I believe Notre Dame is one of the 12 best teams, let’s not sit here and pretend that they are 2019 LSU.

Edited December 4, 2025 by temptation

[23andCounting]

4 minutes ago, temptation said:

SP+ is my favorite metric by which to predict college football contests and it currently has ND at #5 and basically a TD underdog against Indiana/Ohio State on a neutral field.

Furthermore it has teams 5-12 separated by a FG so while yes I believe Notre Dame is one of the 12 best teams, let’s not sit here and pretend that they are 2019 LSU.

Not 2019 LSU, but certainly capable of winning this whole thing. Bigger hurdles in my opinion would be playing Indiana in Bloomington and Ohio State on a neutral field. I’m on board with SP+. I also think the committee is stuck between a rock and a hard place. They know the Irish are Top Six, it’s just hard to put them there in this current format. Lesson of the day. If you want the right to be called champions, don’t lose two games. Is what it is. I just think it would be a tragedy for a program like Notre Dame sitting at home watching Tulane get trounced.

[Bobref]

28 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

If you want the right to be called champions, don’t lose two games.

This is the key. Frankly, getting in, and whatever happens after that, is gravy. Like I said, if they finish 10-2 and go to some random bowl game, it’s not the Committee’s fault. They win either of those two games and nobody would question them getting in. They didn’t take care of business when it was right there in front of them. Let the chips fall where they may.

[Footballking16]

38 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Not 2019 LSU, but certainly capable of winning this whole thing. Bigger hurdles in my opinion would be playing Indiana in Bloomington and Ohio State on a neutral field. I’m on board with SP+. I also think the committee is stuck between a rock and a hard place. They know the Irish are Top Six, it’s just hard to put them there in this current format. Lesson of the day. If you want the right to be called champions, don’t lose two games. Is what it is. I just think it would be a tragedy for a program like Notre Dame sitting at home watching Tulane get trounced.

It's not a tragedy. Tulane will have won their conference championship. Notre Dame knows full and well that the 5 top rated conference champions get an automatic bid to the playoff. This isn't coming down to Tulane and Notre Dame. Miami and Notre Dame are battling for the last at-large spot. Miami beat Notre Dame On.The.Field. SP+, Sagarin, etc are all irrelevant in this instance. 

[temptation]

The real trouble lies in the fact that this weekend's championship games for the most part are pointless.  

IU and OSU will remain in the top four regardless of the outcome and getting out of the game healthy should be the main priority for both teams.  While I know it'd mean a lot for the Hoosiers to win the B10 title, if the national title is the goal, you are one snap away from a travesty.

In the SEC, I think the committee has Bama in regardless of this weekend's result as you cannot, with a straight face, put Oklahoma and A&M in, while leaving the SEC championship game runner up, out.

Same in the ACC.  Duke?  Really?  I have no clue how that tiebreaker worked out in their favor but what a cluster all of those 6-2 teams are.

Lastly, I rarely have sympathy for teams that lose 3 games but are you going to look 9-3 Texas (who has wins over Vandy and A&M) in the eye and tell them that they are not worthy because they challenged themselves in the non-conference traveling to Ohio State, instead of scheduling UTEP?

I know the new format makes more games matter and gives teams more margin for error, but this season, maybe the four team format would have been sufficient?

Mega conferences have created tremendously imbalanced schedules and sometimes the luck of the draw gives teams an advantage, or vice versa.

Edited December 4, 2025 by temptation

[Footballking16]

8 minutes ago, temptation said:

In the SEC, I think the committee has Bama in regardless of this weekend's result as you cannot, with a straight face, put Oklahoma and A&M in, while leaving the SEC championship game runner up, out.

I mean Oklahoma did beat Alabama. At Alabama no less.

Would agree that Alabama is probably in unless they get 50 pieced. Will be interested to see if an Alabama loss moves the Irish back in front of ND, putting them safely in the field in the order to get both programs in or if they stay put at 9 and have Miami and ND fight it out for the last at-large. 

Edited December 4, 2025 by Footballking16

[Bobref]

7 minutes ago, temptation said:

The real trouble lies in the fact that this weekend's championship games for the most part are pointless

I think the law of unintended consequences is in effect here. With the expanded playoff format, conference championship games will disappear.

[23andCounting]

11 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

It's not a tragedy. Tulane will have won their conference championship. Notre Dame knows full and well that the 5 top rated conference champions get an automatic bid to the playoff. This isn't coming down to Tulane and Notre Dame. Miami and Notre Dame are battling for the last at-large spot. Miami beat Notre Dame On.The.Field. SP+, Sagarin, etc are all irrelevant in this instance. 

I don’t put any stock into anything you say regarding Notre Dame. You never liked them, plain and simple. I’ll never make any sense of a Cathedral supporter/Notre Dame hater. But you’re living proof that they are out there.

At the end of the day, the committee’s job is to pick the best 12 teams right now. Not who were the best 12 teams three months ago. Notre Dame’s loss to Miami three months ago is better that Miami’s two losses against SMU and Louisville. EVERYTHING matters, right? 

Too bad head to head didn’t matter when Bobby Bowden won his first title.

[Footballking16]

4 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

I don’t put any stock into anything you say regarding Notre Dame. You never liked them, plain and simple. I’ll never make any sense of a Cathedral supporter/Notre Dame hater. But you’re living proof that they are out there.

At the end of the day, the committee’s job is to pick the best 12 teams right now. Not who were the best 12 teams three months ago. Notre Dame’s loss to Miami three months ago is better that Miami’s two losses against SMU and Louisville. EVERYTHING matters, right? 

Too bad head to head didn’t matter when Bobby Bowden won his first title.

That is not the job of the committee lol. 1-12 DO NOT make the playoff, good lord. The 5 highest rated conference champions all receive an automatic bid and then the rest of the field is compromised of the remaining 7 best at-large teams. Notre Dame is the last at-large team in the field as it stands....for now.

I disliked Notre Dame long before I attended Cathedral. I don't like Notre Dame because their fans are obnoxiously arrogant despite being hardly relevant in nearly 40 years. The proof is in the pudding. 

[23andCounting]

9 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

 

I disliked Notre Dame long before I attended Cathedral. I don't like Notre Dame because their fans are obnoxiously arrogant despite being hardly relevant in nearly 40 years. The proof is in the pudding. 

Tells me all I need to know. Good luck to your Hoosiers. IU basketball = ND football. Love the double standard though. 

[Footballking16]

13 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Tells me all I need to know. Good luck to your Hoosiers. IU basketball = ND football. Love the double standard though. 

Exhibit A above. You, a ND fan, don't even know how the playoff selection works, yet it's tragedy they aren't going to make it? Just say it, you believe Notre Dame should be in because their name is Notre Dame. We all know it.

Reality is that ND's schedule is a joke, they beat one halfway decent team all year, and lost to the two best teams on their schedule....one of them being a team with the same record jockeying for the last playoff spot. Notre Dame doesn't deserve anything this year.

As far as the IU/ND basketball comparison, totally agree. Yet as an IU basketball fan I can totally accept that reality. IU has been largely irrelevant nearly my entire life and sans a few one of year downright bad. I have no shame in admitting that however. 

Notre Dame fans can't accept the fact that the sports has passed them by and they are no longer the center of college football. I get it.

Edited December 4, 2025 by Footballking16

[Komets2727]

I just don’t get all the love for the Irish? Who have they beat this year? Their best win is likely USC, who is the 6th place team in the Big 10. Second best win is Navy… Nuff said. They have beaten up cupcakes all year long. 

Based on results, not conjecture, Notre Dame is not in the top 12. The group 5 argument is a whole other thing. Tulane/North Texas/James Madison winner in reality are not top 12 teams. 
 

[23andCounting]

14 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Exhibit A above. You, a ND fan, don't even know how the playoff selection works, yet it's tragedy they aren't going to make it? Just say it, you believe Notre Dame should be in because their name is Notre Dame. We all know it.

Reality is that ND's schedule is a joke, they beat one halfway decent team all year, and lost to the two best teams on their schedule....one of them being a team with the same record jockeying for the last playoff spot. Notre Dame doesn't deserve anything this year.

As far as the IU/ND basketball comparison, totally agree. Yet as an IU basketball fan I can totally accept that reality. IU has been largely irrelevant nearly my entire life and sans a few one of year downright bad. I have no shame in admitting that however. 

Notre Dame fans can't accept the fact that the sports has passed them by and they are no longer the center of college football. I get it.

Yet you hate Notre Dame and not Indiana when the fan bases are identical. Lol, love bantering with you.

[Footballking16]

4 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Yet you hate Notre Dame and not Indiana when the fan bases are identical. Lol, love bantering with you.

I cheer for IU because I went there and hate Notre Dame because I didn't. What's hard to understand about that? I don't like Ohio State. I don't like Michigan. I don't like Purdue. Why would I like any of those schools? 

[23andCounting]

10 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

I just don’t get all the love for the Irish? Who have they beat this year? Their best win is likely USC, who is the 6th place team in the Big 10. Second best win is Navy… Nuff said. They have beaten up cupcakes all year long. 

Based on results, not conjecture, Notre Dame is not in the top 12. The group 5 argument is a whole other thing. Tulane/North Texas/James Madison winner in reality are not top 12 teams. 
 

So HOW you beat teams only applies to Indiana?

Remind me again why your opinion on this topic has any relevance. Like FootballKing, your disdain for the Irish over the years renders your opinion useless on this topic useless.

17 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

I cheer for IU because I went there and hate Notre Dame because I didn't. What's hard to understand about that? I don't like Ohio State. I don't like Michigan. I don't like Purdue. Why would I like any of those schools? 

Lol, this just keeps getting better.

[Footballking16]

6 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

So HOW you beat teams only applies to Indiana?

Remind me again why your opinion on this topic has any relevance. Like FootballKing, your disdain for the Irish over the years renders your opinion useless on this topic useless.

Indiana beat every team on it's schedule including a top 5 team on the road.

If Notre Dame did that we wouldn't be having this conversation. They didn't however. 

[Komets2727]

27 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

So HOW you beat teams only applies to Indiana?

Remind me again why your opinion on this topic has any relevance. Like FootballKing, your disdain for the Irish over the years renders your opinion useless on this topic useless.

Lol, this just keeps getting better.

Why is it useless? Just because my opinion doesn’t agree with your opinion? Again, who did the Irish beat? Answer that question honestly and compare that to everyone else’s resume. If you are hanging your hat on USC and Navy as your best wins then you have already lost. If you had beaten A&M or Miami then the Irish are in the CFP easily and there would be no argument about it, but they didn’t.

Edited December 4, 2025 by Komets2727

[Footballking16]

4 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Why is it useless? Just because my opinion doesn’t agree with your opinion? Again, who did the Irish beat? Answer that question honestly and compare that to everyone else’s resume. If you are hanging your hat on USC and Navy as your best wins then you have already lost. If you had beaten A&M or Miami then the Irish are in the CFP easily and there would be no argument about it, but they didn’t.

Why is it that the ND and SEC crowd have such a hard time grasping on-field results? There were about 2 or 3 SEC fanbases who swore up and down that their 9-3 teams would have been national champions had only the been included in the field. 

They're all delusional.

[Footballking16]

34 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Lol, this just keeps getting better.

 

23 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

I'll forever consider this year's champion as illegitimate if they don't go through the Irish in the process. 

Like I said, pure arrogance. 

[Komets2727]

Let’s go down the “murderers row” that the Irish beat this year:

Purdue 56-30, 2-10 record

Arkansas 56-13, record 2-10

Boise State 28-6, record 8-4

NC State 36-7, record 7-5

USC 34-24, record 9-3

Boston College 25-10, record 2-10

Navy 49-10, record 9-2

Pittsburgh 37-15, record 8-4

Syracuse 70-7, record 3-9

Stanford 49-20, record 4-8

I mean, the above speaks for itself. One of the worst schedules I have seen in awhile. What is their best road win? Pittsburgh??? Dude, you are way too knowledgeable about football to be even trying to justify the Irish. Stunning…