GID College Football Playoff Committee

[Sparty]

If you have time, YouTube today’s PMS show, specifically the spot with Kirk Herbstreit.  They lay out some what ifs.  Holy cow can this get crazy.  lol.  
 

16 teams is almost a guarantee coming next year?  Or in 27-28?

[23andCounting]

22 hours ago, Sparty said:

If you have time, YouTube today’s PMS show, specifically the spot with Kirk Herbstreit.  They lay out some what ifs.  Holy cow can this get crazy.  lol.  
 

16 teams is almost a guarantee coming next year?  Or in 27-28?

Notre Dame getting left out would be a blessing for the 12 teams that do get in. This is the best team Notre Dame has had since the Lou Holtz era. There's a reason Vegas has them as the fourth most likely team to win the championship. Sagarin sort of likes them as well, coming in at #2. 

[temptation]

33 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Notre Dame getting left out would be a blessing for the 12 teams that do get in. This is the best team Notre Dame has had since the Lou Holtz era. There's a reason Vegas has them as the fourth most likely team to win the championship. Sagarin sort of likes them as well, coming in at #2. 

Thought you didn't believe in Sagarin?

[23andCounting]

7 minutes ago, temptation said:

Thought you didn't believe in Sagarin?

Check the receipts. I've always said that it was more accurate at the college level. I've also said that it's pretty good at the high school level after the first couple of rounds of the tournament. At the high school level, I take with a grain of salt up until about the eighth week. Even then, I'm a bit skeptical. Get into regionals though? I think it's pretty good. 

I've given some laughable examples during the regular season.

Edited December 2, 2025 by 23andCounting

[Irishman]

Miami caught outside looking in at the moment. I think their best chance is if Alabama loses to Georgia. 

[Footballking16]

The way I see it, ND is in a whole heap of trouble and BYU is going to screw them either way.

A BYU win Saturday puts them in the field and knocks ND out. A BYU loss and they fall out of the 11 spot pitting ND and Miami right next to each other for the first time since the rankings have been released. Committee has previously stated they have not compared ND to Miami because they were too far apart in the rankings. Miami will jump ND Sunday if that is the case.

[23andCounting]

5 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

The way I see it, ND is in a whole heap of trouble and BYU is going to screw them either way.

A BYU win Saturday puts them in the field and knocks ND out. A BYU loss and they fall out of the 11 spot pitting ND and Miami right next to each other for the first time since the rankings have been released. Committee has previously stated they have not compared ND to Miami because they were too far apart in the rankings. Miami will jump ND Sunday if that is the case.

How will the committee justify Miami bumping ND after neither team play this weekend? That would be hard to explain, lol. As it sits right now, IU would host Notre Dame in the first round after ND beats A&M. Bad scenario for the Hoosiers. Not picking on IU here, but no one wants to play the Irish right now. The committee sees this. Not a team in the country passes the eye test better than Notre Dame right now outside of Ohio State and Indiana. Does anyone in their right mind really think Oregon would beat ND? The Irish vs Bama would be a dream come true matchup for me in the first round. All this talk about which team is better, lets find out. 

[PDB26]

9 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

The way I see it, ND is in a whole heap of trouble and BYU is going to screw them either way.

A BYU win Saturday puts them in the field and knocks ND out. A BYU loss and they fall out of the 11 spot pitting ND and Miami right next to each other for the first time since the rankings have been released. Committee has previously stated they have not compared ND to Miami because they were too far apart in the rankings. Miami will jump ND Sunday if that is the case.

I think there are at least a few ways to look at it. Yours is one, and not unlikely. I think it is equally likely that ND and Alabama invert positions if Alabama loses and BYU loses. Alabama isn’t going to be left out at this point, so BYU provides cover to move 10-3 Alabama down one and keep ND in—which it has seemed they have wanted to do this whole time. It’s possible they don’t change any team’s ranking after the weekend, though that seems less unlikely.

[temptation]

Just join a conference and you get one more chance to showcase yourself and advocate for your inclusion this weekend.

No tears shed by this guy if the Irish are left out.

[Bobref]

I have a bad feeling about the final playoff determination, as far as the Irish are concerned. If they’re left out at 10-2, I’m not going to be complaining about an injustice. They have no one to blame but themselves. Honestly, they should be 12-0 at this point. Self-inflicted wounds.

[23andCounting]

6 minutes ago, Bobref said:

I have a bad feeling about the final playoff determination, as far as the Irish are concerned. If they’re left out at 10-2, I’m not going to be complaining about an injustice. They have no one to blame but themselves. Honestly, they should be 12-0 at this point. Self-inflicted wounds.

I get what you're saying, shouldn't have lost two games. It's just a hard decision for the committee. They know ND is one of the top six teams in the country, they just don't want to cause anarchy by saying it. Too much influence from the SEC. Again, Las Vegas says they are fourth best. I tend to trust Vegas since I lose to them all the time. The real problem is the automatic qualifier for a Group of Five program. Think about this for a second. Tulane gets in, leaving a program like ND or Miami out. Let that settle in. That's a problem. 

[Footballking16]

5 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

How will the committee justify Miami bumping ND after neither team play this weekend? That would be hard to explain, lol. As it sits right now, IU would host Notre Dame in the first round after ND beats A&M. Bad scenario for the Hoosiers. Not picking on IU here, but no one wants to play the Irish right now. The committee sees this. Not a team in the country passes the eye test better than Notre Dame right now outside of Ohio State and Indiana. Does anyone in their right mind really think Oregon would beat ND? The Irish vs Bama would be a dream come true matchup for me in the first round. All this talk about which team is better, lets find out. 

The committee has already said teams that are idle can move up or down. It was a direct quote from the committee chair last night specifically about Notre Dame and Miami. They will reassess after this weekend and completely re-rank the teams going into Sunday. Right now there is a buffer between ND and Miami, and that team is BYU. BYU winning puts them in the field as an automatic qualifier and bumps ND who is the last at-large team in the field as of today. BYU losing more than likely drops them and there is now no buffer between Miami and ND. Miami's head to head win over ND should propel them over ND.  

I honestly think ND's only path is for Alabama to get absolutely blown out by Georgia. Could see ND jumping Bama in that scenario. 

[23andCounting]

36 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

The committee has already said teams that are idle can move up or down. It was a direct quote from the committee chair last night specifically about Notre Dame and Miami. They will reassess after this weekend and completely re-rank the teams going into Sunday. Right now there is a buffer between ND and Miami, and that team is BYU. BYU winning puts them in the field as an automatic qualifier and bumps ND who is the last at-large team in the field as of today. BYU losing more than likely drops them and there is now no buffer between Miami and ND. Miami's head to head win over ND should propel them over ND.  

I honestly think ND's only path is for Alabama to get absolutely blown out by Georgia. Could see ND jumping Bama in that scenario. 

As much as the committee wants Notre Dame in the playoff, knowing they are one of the better teams, they may not have the gonads to put them in front of Miami since Miami beat them by a field goal three months ago. 

Compare ND's losses to any team in the field with two losses. How do they stack up? That being said, ND should EASILY be the highest ranked two loss team. Couple that with blowing out everyone else on their schedule, you're left with the #2 team in the country according to Sagarin. I'll forever consider this year's champion as illegitimate if they don't go through the Irish in the process. No one can deny it the way Notre Dame is playing. Can't say the same for Alabama or Miami. 

[Footballking16]

8 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

As much as the committee wants Notre Dame in the playoff, knowing they are one of the better teams, they may not have the gonads to put them in front of Miami since Miami beat them by a field goal three months ago. 

Compare ND's losses to any team in the field with two losses. How do they stack up? That being said, ND should EASILY be the highest ranked two loss team. Couple that with blowing out everyone else on their schedule, you're left with the #2 team in the country according to Sagarin. I'll forever consider this year's champion as illegitimate if they don't go through the Irish in the process. No one can deny it the way Notre Dame is playing. Can't say the same for Alabama or Miami. 

Why is ND "easily the best two loss team"? Based on what? Their resume sucks. They have one win against a team currently in the CFP top 25 rankings. Turns out that beating a bunch of bottom half ACC teams for 2 straight months isn't a great strategy. Join a damn conference. 

Edited December 3, 2025 by Footballking16

[23andCounting]

26 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Why is ND "easily the best two loss team"? Based on what? Their resume sucks. They have one win against a team currently in the CFP top 25 rankings. Turns out that beating a bunch of bottom half ACC teams for 2 straight months isn't a great strategy. Join a damn conference. 

Love that people hate Notre Dame for not joining a conference, apparently you included. For that reason alone, I hope they don't. Every year ND knocks at least one or two of their opponents from the Top 25. Then people say, "Notre Dame didn't play anyone in the Top 25," lol. This year it was Pittsburgh. 

Tell me, who in the SEC waxed Arkansas with the same dominant force that Notre Dame did? Notre Dame did it at Razorback Stadium and got their coach fired in the process. 

The USC win was a good one. In fact, had USC scheduled a lessor opponent than ND, they'd be in the Top 12 conversation. ND beat USC with about the same precision that Oregon did. 

Not sure where I said "easily" the best two loss team, but I may have. But their two loss resume is more impressive than anyone else's two losses. Alabama lost to Florida State for crying out loud. Miami lost to Louisville and SMU. Damn, ND lost to A&M and Miami by a total of 4 points. One of those losses came from a botched extra point. Let's not pretend that ND can't beat anyone in the SEC. Let's not pretend that they can't be Oregon. 

[PDB26]

1 hour ago, 23andCounting said:

I get what you're saying, shouldn't have lost two games. It's just a hard decision for the committee. They know ND is one of the top six teams in the country, they just don't want to cause anarchy by saying it. Too much influence from the SEC. Again, Las Vegas says they are fourth best. I tend to trust Vegas since I lose to them all the time. The real problem is the automatic qualifier for a Group of Five program. Think about this for a second. Tulane gets in, leaving a program like ND or Miami out. Let that settle in. That's a problem. 

Might even get two G5 auto bids this year.

Miami’s situation is just the latest example of the lunacy of these bloated conferences. 10-2 and the highest ranked ACC team, yet they’re sitting at home with two league losses having played neither of the teams in the league championship game.

1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

The committee has already said teams that are idle can move up or down. It was a direct quote from the committee chair last night specifically about Notre Dame and Miami. They will reassess after this weekend and completely re-rank the teams going into Sunday. Right now there is a buffer between ND and Miami, and that team is BYU. BYU winning puts them in the field as an automatic qualifier and bumps ND who is the last at-large team in the field as of today. BYU losing more than likely drops them and there is now no buffer between Miami and ND. Miami's head to head win over ND should propel them over ND.  

I honestly think ND's only path is for Alabama to get absolutely blown out by Georgia. Could see ND jumping Bama in that scenario. 

I don’t think Alabama has to get blown out for ND to get in. The committee is engineering outcomes when part of the rationale for Alabama moving past Notre Dame is: first, they won a rivalry game 27-20 and second, they led that game 17-0. They think Alabama should be in regardless of outcome this weekend—which is fine by me—but they can’t leave them exposed to the chaos of other upsets at 10. If they lose they can move back one spot, so long as BYU and Duke don’t win, and if one of those other games ends up an upset they stay where they are.

[Footballking16]

15 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Love that people hate Notre Dame for not joining a conference, apparently you included. For that reason alone, I hope they don't. Every year ND knocks at least one or two of their opponents from the Top 25. Then people say, "Notre Dame didn't play anyone in the Top 25," lol. This year it was Pittsburgh. 

Tell me, who in the SEC waxed Arkansas with the same dominant force that Notre Dame did? Notre Dame did it at Razorback Stadium and got their coach fired in the process. 

The USC win was a good one. In fact, had USC scheduled a lessor opponent than ND, they'd be in the Top 12 conversation. ND beat USC with about the same precision that Oregon did. 

Not sure where I said "easily" the best two loss team, but I may have. But their two loss resume is more impressive than anyone else's two losses. Alabama lost to Florida State for crying out loud. Miami lost to Louisville and SMU. Damn, ND lost to A&M and Miami by a total of 4 points. One of those losses came from a botched extra point. Let's not pretend that ND can't beat anyone in the SEC. Let's not pretend that they can't be Oregon. 

Notre Dame is free to do whatever they want, doesn’t bother me for a second. Stopping acting dumbfounded in these situations though. They have one decent win all year and lost to the two best teams in their schedule. They don’t have these Okoro to play their way in via a conference championship and that’s their own damn fault. 

[23andCounting]

6 minutes ago, PDB26 said:

Might even get two G5 auto bids this year.

Miami’s situation is just the latest example of the lunacy of these bloated conferences. 10-2 and the highest ranked ACC team, yet they’re sitting at home with two league losses having played neither of the teams in the league championship game.

I don’t think Alabama has to get blown out for ND to get in. The committee is engineering outcomes when part of the rationale for Alabama moving past Notre Dame is: first, they won a rivalry game 27-20 and second, they led that game 17-0. They think Alabama should be in regardless of outcome this weekend—which is fine by me—but they can’t leave them exposed to the chaos of other upsets at 10. If they lose they can move back one spot, so long as BYU and Duke don’t win, and if one of those other games ends up an upset they stay where they are.

Personally, I think the committee felt pressure to rank Alabama ahead of Notre Dame. My money would be on Notre Dame if they were to play head to head. It sucks for SEC fans. Notre Dame better than Bama. B1G on a two game championship streak. My apologies to anyone from the south, but times are changing. Level playing field for all. 

Can't ignore who ND's losses were to. Can't ignore when they were. Can't ignore what Vegas thinks of ND. Can't ignore what Sagarin thinks of ND. The Irish being excluded would be a tragedy. But on the bright side, IU won't have to worry about facing them in the second round. Again, no one wants to play ND right now. 

5 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Notre Dame is free to do whatever they want, doesn’t bother me for a second. Stopping acting dumbfounded in these situations though. They have one decent win all year and lost to the two best teams in their schedule. They don’t have these Okoro to play their way in via a conference championship and that’s their own damn fault. 

It's just difficult because they are a bubble team and one of the best teams in the country at the same time. Not really anyone's fault. Just need to go to 16 teams I guess if we're going to put teams like Tulane in the playoff, lol. 

[Footballking16]

20 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Personally, I think the committee felt pressure to rank Alabama ahead of Notre Dame. My money would be on Notre Dame if they were to play head to head. It sucks for SEC fans. Notre Dame better than Bama. B1G on a two game championship streak. My apologies to anyone from the south, but times are changing. Level playing field for all. 

Can't ignore who ND's losses were to. Can't ignore when they were. Can't ignore what Vegas thinks of ND. Can't ignore what Sagarin thinks of ND. The Irish being excluded would be a tragedy. But on the bright side, IU won't have to worry about facing them in the second round. Again, no one wants to play ND right now. 

It's just difficult because they are a bubble team and one of the best teams in the country at the same time. Not really anyone's fault. Just need to go to 16 teams I guess if we're going to put teams like Tulane in the playoff, lol. 

Guess what? ND would have the same opportunity as Tulane this weekend if they were in a conference. This isn’t hard. 

[Bash Riprock]

8 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

How will the committee justify Miami bumping ND after neither team play this weekend? That would be hard to explain, lol. As it sits right now, IU would host Notre Dame in the first round after ND beats A&M. Bad scenario for the Hoosiers. Not picking on IU here, but no one wants to play the Irish right now. The committee sees this. Not a team in the country passes the eye test better than Notre Dame right now outside of Ohio State and Indiana. Does anyone in their right mind really think Oregon would beat ND? The Irish vs Bama would be a dream come true matchup for me in the first round. All this talk about which team is better, lets find out. 

I'm your huckleberry....I think it would be a great game and could absolutely see the Ducks beating ND, especially the way I watched them go into Seattle and handle Washington this past weekend.  That was a much higher quality win than Syracuse or Stanford...IMO.  I personally think that game would be a toss up

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

Guess what? ND would have the same opportunity as Tulane this weekend if they were in a conference. This isn’t hard. 

I guess just schedule a sit down with the ND AD and and explain that to him. "This isn't hard," lol. 

[Footballking16]

4 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

I guess just schedule a sit down with the ND AD and and explain that to him. "This isn't hard," lol. 

I don't care enough one way or the other. Just find it hilarious when ND and their fans try and take the high road on joining a conference and then act like they have no clue why they are left out of things like this when they are.

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

Guess what? ND would have the same opportunity as Tulane this weekend if they were in a conference. This isn’t hard. 

They're a national brand, not limited to conference. Won't ever happen. And the money they get from NBC offsets anything they'd get through conference affiliation.

3 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

I don't care enough one way or the other. Just find it hilarious when ND and their fans try and take the high road on joining a conference and then act like they have no clue why they are left out of things like this when they are.

Again, Notre Dame being left out would be music to everyone's ears. IU doesn't want ND in the first round, they just don't. Or round two, whatever you want to call it.

[Footballking16]

5 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

They're a national brand, not limited to conference. Won't ever happen. And the money they get from NBC offsets anything they'd get through conference affiliation.

Again, Notre Dame being left out would be music to everyone's ears. IU doesn't want ND in the first round, they just don't. Or round two, whatever you want to call it.

IU is undefeated playing for a chance at the #1 seed Saturday. There isn't another team in college football that I'm afraid of this year. If ND is not only fortunate enough to make the playoff, but win their opening round game on the road and meets IU, will discuss when the time calls for it. Big bad ND who beats up on the dregs of the ACC doesn't really move me.

[PDB26]

2 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

Personally, I think the committee felt pressure to rank Alabama ahead of Notre Dame. My money would be on Notre Dame if they were to play head to head. It sucks for SEC fans. Notre Dame better than Bama. B1G on a two game championship streak. My apologies to anyone from the south, but times are changing. Level playing field for all. 

Can't ignore who ND's losses were to. Can't ignore when they were. Can't ignore what Vegas thinks of ND. Can't ignore what Sagarin thinks of ND. The Irish being excluded would be a tragedy. But on the bright side, IU won't have to worry about facing them in the second round. Again, no one wants to play ND right now. 

It's just difficult because they are a bubble team and one of the best teams in the country at the same time. Not really anyone's fault. Just need to go to 16 teams I guess if we're going to put teams like Tulane in the playoff, lol. 

I'll preface this by saying Alabama should be ahead of Notre Dame despite the losses to a horrific Florida State and an offenseless Oklahoma, no 10-2 teams will have been done an injustice if excluded this year––someone has to be the first one out and all did their best to play themselves into their predicaments, and I think ND is probably the toughest out of the teams on the bubble.

Sure, the committee felt pressure to move Alabama up because they can't leave a participant in the SEC title game exposed to the chaos scenario where an upset by BYU makes the final three spots in the field auto bids. They could, but don't want to have to move Alabama up after a loss in the title game just because other teams behind them won. They can keep 10-3 Alabama at 9 with a straight face should chaos ensue among the teams behind them.