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Minneapolis Police Killed George Floyd, Then Failed To Protect Property Owners From Riots


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Chicago mayor: Will take 'Herculean effort' to get businesses to come back

Walmart, Target among businesses in city that can't confirm reopening of stores

Chicago stores mull permanent closure following riots, coronavirus lockdown

Chicago stores are struggling to reopen after the coronavirus lockdown, riot violence and looting have physically and economically destroyed businesses.

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/lori-lightfoot-alderman-chicago-walmart-looting

 

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot said it would take a "Herculean effort" to keep businesses open in disadvantaged neighborhoods after looting and damage that occurred during the first weekend of protests following the death of George Floyd.

"I've been on calls and text messages with people all day who fought hard to bring economic development to areas of the city, only to see the Walgreens, the CVS, the grocery store, everything vanish in an eye blink," Lightfoot said on a May 31 call with distraught aldermen. "It's going to take a Herculean effort on the part of all of us to convince businesses not to disappear, to come back. We're prepared to fight that fight."

LOOTING COST BUSINESSES IN MAJOR METRO AREAS AT LEAST $400M, EXPERTS ESTIMATE

Walmart can't confirm it will reopen its Chatham location on the city's South Side after it was ransacked.

"We are still assessing the damage," a Walmart spokesperson told FOX Business. "No decision has been made."

Target couldn't confirm it would reopen a nearby location either, The Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Looting damage in metropolitan areas, including Chicago, between May 29 and June 3 totaled more than $400 million, according to an estimate from the Anderson Economic Group released Friday.

GEORGE FLOYD PROTESTERS PUSH TO DEFUND THE POLICE: WHAT IT MEANS

"I haven't seen s--t like this before," Lightfoot said on the call. "The number of places all over the South and West sides in particular that have been hit today has just been off the charts. Literally hundreds, if not thousands, of locations. Big stores, small stores, strip malls, many corner places, it is all over the city."

Some aldermen had accused Lightfoot of prioritizing protecting central Chicago over the city's South and North sides. Lightfoot said on the call that the accusation was "simply not so."

The city will spend up to $1.2 million to hire private security firms to protect local businesses and deter looters, Lightfoot's office said last week, according to the Chicago Tribune.

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“The new guards are unarmed and solely in place to monitor activity on commercial corridors and notify the Chicago Police Department if any illegal activity occurs,” the mayor's office said in a statement to the Tribune. “None of the security guards have policing powers, but are another set of eyes and ears to support efforts to deter looters. All security officers will wear visible identification.”

 
 

 

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In 2016, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg argued that “it’s really dumb” for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick and others to refuse to stand for the national anthem, according to CNN.

Their actions are “dumb and disrespectful,” she said of Kaepernick and others.Ginsburg said about the athletes, “if they want to be stupid, there’s no law that should be preventive.”

She continued, “If they want to be arrogant, there’s no law that prevents them from that. What I would do is strongly take issue with the point of view that they are expressing when they do that.”

“I would have the same answer if you asked me about flag burning. I think it’s a terrible thing to do, but I wouldn’t lock a person up for doing it. I would point out how ridiculous it seems to me to do such an act.”

Kaepernick responded to the liberal Supreme Court Justice, saying it was “disappointing to hear a Supreme Court justice call a protest against injustices and oppression ‘stupid, dumb.’ ”

“I was reading an article and it refers to white critique of black protests and how they try to de-legitimize it by calling it ‘idiotic, dumb, stupid,’ things of that nature, so they can sidestep the real issue,” Kaepernick said.


Kaepernick said about white people: “As I was reading that I saw more and more truth how this has been approached by people in power and white people in power in particular.”

So wait - Ginsburg is racist?  Wow......Did not see that one coming......

 

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2 hours ago, gonzoron said:

Who said that?

You essentially did with this post:

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So using this logic one can conclude the more children you have the more you will know about racism.   So those of us with say 3+ children must really be experts.

 

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17 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

You essentially did with this post:

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So using this logic one can conclude the more children you have the more you will know about racism.   So those of us with say 3+ children must really be experts.

 

I didn't say anything of the sort.

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4 hours ago, swordfish said:

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In 2016, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg argued that “it’s really dumb” for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick and others to refuse to stand for the national anthem, according to CNN.

Their actions are “dumb and disrespectful,” she said of Kaepernick and others.Ginsburg said about the athletes, “if they want to be stupid, there’s no law that should be preventive.”

She continued, “If they want to be arrogant, there’s no law that prevents them from that. What I would do is strongly take issue with the point of view that they are expressing when they do that.”

“I would have the same answer if you asked me about flag burning. I think it’s a terrible thing to do, but I wouldn’t lock a person up for doing it. I would point out how ridiculous it seems to me to do such an act.”

Kaepernick responded to the liberal Supreme Court Justice, saying it was “disappointing to hear a Supreme Court justice call a protest against injustices and oppression ‘stupid, dumb.’ ”

“I was reading an article and it refers to white critique of black protests and how they try to de-legitimize it by calling it ‘idiotic, dumb, stupid,’ things of that nature, so they can sidestep the real issue,” Kaepernick said.


Kaepernick said about white people: “As I was reading that I saw more and more truth how this has been approached by people in power and white people in power in particular.”

So wait - Ginsburg is racist?  Wow......Did not see that one coming......

 

Al Sharpton demands for the NFL to give Colin Kaepernick his job back during the eulogy for George Floyd.

 

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28 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Then exactly what are you saying regarding racism and having children, Gonzo?

 

I'm saying exactly what I said. To @Howe. If he doesn't have black children, then he doesn't know as much about racism as he believes he knows.

On 6/9/2020 at 12:14 PM, Howe said:

That is the primary qualification for most white liberals who pretend to be authorities on racism.

I am the only white person who has had a black personal tutor for the past 30 years.

 

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9 hours ago, gonzoron said:

Then you don’t know nearly as much as you believe you know about racism.

I have no doubt that I know more than you. You pretend to be the GID authority among white people on the subject, however, a Trump supporter has more personal experience and has spent more time around more black people than any white liberal on this forum. It isn't even close.

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7 hours ago, Howe said:

I have no doubt that I know more than you. You pretend to be the GID authority among white people on the subject, however, a Trump supporter has more personal experience and has spent more time around more black people than any white liberal on this forum. It isn't even close.

Continuing to repeat a lie, won't ever make it true.

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6 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Continuing to repeat a lie, won't ever make it true.

Calling me a liar is the best you can do? What is the foundation of your vast knowledge?

The fact that you claim black people cannot be racist is evidence that you have not spent much time around black people.

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9 hours ago, gonzoron said:

I'm saying exactly what I said.

 

Yep, more mealy-mouthed gobbledygook and personal superiority nonsense.  That chip on your shoulder must really weigh you down.

 

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Seattle Protesters Establish 'Autonomous Zone' Outside Evacuated Police Precinct

https://reason.com/2020/06/10/seattle-protesters-establish-autonomous-zone-outside-evacuated-police-precinct/

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Anti-police-brutality demonstrations are cooling off in much of the country. Not so in Seattle, where over a week of protests and street clashes has resulted in police abandoning a precinct building, demonstrators establishing an "autonomous zone" in the surrounding streets, and a brief occupation of city hall.

The site of much of this drama has been the Seattle Police Department (SPD) Eastern Precinct in the city's Capitol Hill neighborhood.

Late Sunday night and early Monday morning saw police and National Guard troops push protesters away from the Eastern Precinct with tear gas and pepper spray in what local alt-weekly The Stranger describe as "the most aggressive and sustained" response to protests yet.

The use of tear gas was particularly controversial, given that Mayor Jenny Durkan and SPD Chief Carmen Best had announced a 30-day ban on the police's use of the stuff against protestors that past Friday. The SPD, via tweet, said that its officers were being pelted with projectiles and that the presence of an armed gunman justified its use. The city of Seattle is now being sued by the protestors represented by the Washington chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union over its crowd control tactics.

Then, on Monday afternoon, in an apparent attempt to prevent similar clashes from playing out, SPD boarded up the Eastern Precinct building and announced that it would be opening up nearby streets to demonstrators.

Later that night, Durkan said on Twitter that police had removed barricades around the precinct building "to proactively de-escalate interactions between protestors and law enforcement" while still "safely securing the facility."

In an effort to proactively de-escalate interactions between protestors and law enforcement outside the East Precinct, Chief Best and @SeattlePD officers have removed barricades surrounding the East Precinct while safely securing the facility.

— Mayor Jenny Durkan (@MayorJenny) June 9, 2020

 

The SPD's announcement said that the precinct would continue to be staffed. However, pictures from the scene show the building totally boarded up and heavily graffitied, and the Capitol Hill Seattle Blog—a neighborhood news website—says that the building is empty.

I'm outside of the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct for @townhallcom. Police have pulled out of the area and protesters have set up barricades in the streets. They have declared it a "Cop Free Zone." pic.twitter.com/iYFQ9B4jhz

— Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) June 9, 2020

 

That Monday night, in the absence of a police presence, protestors formed what's now being called the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ). Reassembled barricades went up around the new zone, with some featuring signs welcoming people to "Free Capitol Hill." The Seattle Times reports that tents have started to go up in the CHAZ and that folks are hoping to turn the boarded-up cop shop into a community center.

The first night of the autonomous zone reportedly saw some speeches from demonstrators and an appearance by socialist Seattle City Councilmember Kshama Sawant, who sparred with some protesters about how much to cut the SPD's budget.

A few assembled demonstrators reportedly demanded a 100 percent defunding of the police. Sawant, reports The Stranger, said that that was infeasible under capitalism, and touted her own plan to cut the department's budget by 50 percent.

A news crew from the local Fox affiliate was reportedly chased out of the zone by some demonstrators.

Tuesday saw more activity in the zone, with more barricades going up, and some businesses in the area opening up to offer water, bathroom facilities, and food to demonstrators.

Optimism, Rudy's, Bang Bang, and Poquitos have opened their bathrooms (and Optimism has hella supplies too). Atulea is offering free water. Oma Bap is out there with bells on. If the neighborhood wasn't so supportive of the protests, things would be a lot harder! 2/3 pic.twitter.com/SF13dWPRPx

— Shir Goldbird (@shirgoldbird) June 10, 2020

 

That night, Sawant led a crowd from the CHAZ to Seattle city hall for an hour-long protest inside the building, where people chanted and demanded the resignation of Durkan and the defunding of the police.

The City Hall occupation, reports Capitol Hill Seattle Blog, saw more fights between Sawant and some demonstrators wary of her coopting of their movement. The councilmember touted her plan to tax Amazon. Another speaker countered that the focus should remain on racial justice issues.

Kshama Sawant is pretty much giving her stump speech here, celebrating the $15 minimum wage and building new political representation that "grabs power for ordinary people." Also, talks of vote on "banning chemical weapons and chokeholds" by SPD. pic.twitter.com/PvofhfMXDm

— Evan Bush (@evanbush) June 10, 2020

 

Afterward, protesters returned to the CHAZ for a screening of the documentary 13th.

The zone has attracted national and critical attention. Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) tweeted about how the situation was "endangering people's lives."

This is endangering people's lives. #ThisIsNuts https://t.co/jvBHGzfDDT

— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) June 9, 2020

 

Yet so far the zone appears neither as lawless as conservatives fear nor as autonomous as some of its occupants might like. The city's Fire Department says it has committed more staff to cover the area. Other city departments have been on-site to clear away trash and empty dumpsters. SPD says it will still answer 911 calls in the area.

With the situation on the ground in flux, it's impossible to know where the CHAZ is headed. While the movement behind the zone can't be described as libertarian (a Medium essay purporting to be a list demands from the Free Capitol folks includes calls for both police abolition and rent control), it is still vaguely encouraging to see people try to set up their own self-governing enclave in the vacuum left by the police's withdrawal.

Anarchy!?

 

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38 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Yep, more mealy-mouthed gobbledygook and personal superiority nonsense.  That chip on your shoulder must really weigh you down.

 

I haven’t made any personal superiority claims. That would be @Howe.

 

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11 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

I haven’t made any personal superiority claims. That would be @Howe.

 

Yeah, you have.  But as you usual you say it out of the side of your mouth.

It is clear by your comments to Howe that regarding the understanding and impact of racism on racial minorities you believe your views are personally superior to his.  

 

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10 hours ago, Howe said:

The fact that you claim black people cannot be racist is evidence that you have not spent much time around black people.

It's evidence that I know the difference between prejudice and racism.

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With 1 Republican Cosponsor, Rep. Justin Amash Gains Tripartisan Support To End Qualified Immunity

https://reason.com/2020/06/11/justin-amash-tom-mcclintock-republican-cosponsor-tripartisan-support-to-end-qualified-immunity/

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For the first time in U.S. congressional history, a bill has support from a Libertarian-Democratic-Republican coalition of lawmakers.

Introduced by Rep. Justin Amash (L–Mich.), the Ending Qualified Immunity Act seeks to squash a legal doctrine that allows public officials to violate your civil rights with impunity if those rights have not yet been "clearly established" by preexisting case law.

"It is the sense of the Congress that we must correct the erroneous interpretation of section 1983 which provides for qualified immunity, and reiterate the standard found on the face of the statute," the bill reads, "which does not limit ability on the basis of the defendant's good faith beliefs or on the basis that the right was not 'clearly established' at the time of the violation."

Rep. Tom McClintock (R–Calif.) signed on to cosponsor, joining Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D–Mass.) and a lengthy list of other Democratic legislators who support Amash's legislation. The death of George Floyd, the unarmed black man who was killed by former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, prompted the Republican lawmaker to back the bill.

"Whatever his motive, the killer of George Floyd had 18 complaints for misconduct, and one of his accomplices had six. Why is such misconduct tolerated by big city police departments?" he asked. "Is it because the doctrine of qualified immunity shields corrupt officials from accountability for a wide range of crimes?"

Though qualified immunity was never meant to shield police officers from actual crimes, it sports a sordid history of doing just that. The "clearly established" standard—referred to by Amash in his bill—has become an increasingly Herculean task to meet. As I wrote earlier today:

In Howse v. Hodous (2020), the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit gave qualified immunity to two officers who allegedly assaulted and arrested a man on bogus charges for the crime of standing outside of his own house. There was also the sheriff's deputy in Coffee County, Georgia, who shot a 10-year-old boy while aiming at a non-threatening dog; the cop in Los Angeles who shot a 15-year-old boy on his way to school because the child's friend had a plastic gun; and two cops in Fresno, California, who allegedly stole $225,000 while executing a search warrant.

The cops in those cases received protection under the legal doctrine because the judiciary had not yet established in near-identical terms that those actions were unconstitutional. In other words, officers need clearer notice to know, for example, that stealing is wrong.

Even so, qualified immunity still has its supporters. "'Clearly established' means that the law is so clear at the time of the incident that every reasonable officer would understand the unlawfulness of his conduct," Judge Amul Thapar of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit wrote in the majority opinion for Howse. "To avoid 'paralysis by analysis,' qualified immunity protects all but plainly incompetent officers or those who knowingly violate the law."

When considering how the doctrine works in practice, the contradiction in Thapar's reasoning is a bit hard to ignore. Only "plainly incompetent officers" and "those who knowingly violate the law" are exempt from qualified immunity, he says. And yet it still shielded two cops who could not deduce without the help of the courts that taking hundreds of thousands of dollars is a violation of someone's constitutional rights.

Brynne Kennedy, the Democrat facing McClintock in the November election, called his stance "a welcome surprise," according to McClatchy. It shouldn't be, however, when considering that McClintock has historically erred on the side of support for police reform, even before he clinched his seat in the House.

"No-knock warrants have proven to be lethal to citizens and police officers, for an obvious reason," he said yesterday. "The invasion of a person's home is one of the most terrifying powers government possesses."

For her part, Kennedy isn't impressed. McClintock must show he will "protect Social Security and Medicare, combat corruption, and lower the cost of prescription drugs," she said. Otherwise, his bipartisanship—rather, tripartisanship—is moot. But that logic represents a backward understanding of crosspartisan lawmaking. Ironically, by Kennedy's definition, bipartisanship can only exist when everyone already agrees with the core tenets of her platform.

That attitude is also counterproductive to striking down awful legal doctrines like qualified immunity and perhaps explains, in part, why so few lawmakers are willing to cross those political trenches.

Just last week, I wrote about the Republicans' hesitance to support Amash's bill—an odd trend when considering the GOP claims to be the party of small government. Qualified immunity puts more power in the hands of the already-powerful at the expense of the little guy. One hopes that more might follow McClintock's lead, understanding that principled leadership need not be hamstrung by tribalism.

I hope this legislation actually gets somewhere.  But then there is the bigger task ahead of breaking the public sector police union.

 

 

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