How did New Pal Slip So Quickly?

[Muda69]

Just now, Olympian06 said:

I’m going to guess it’s not to tell someone where they can or can not live... 

No, that is the role of government schools and their near monopoly on K-12 education.

 

[Footballking16]

8 minutes ago, Olympian06 said:

I’m going to guess it’s not to tell someone where they can or can not live... 

On top of restricting eligibility which is stated rather clearly in their rule book. 

[Guest DT]

20 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

But that has nothing to do with the SF, which is what you said initially. 

Certainly not restricting transfers stemming from parents moving into different school districts, especially in a different area code.

I never linked Roncalli and the SF.  They were certainly targeted by it however

[Footballking16]

9 minutes ago, DT said:

I never linked Roncalli and the SF.  They were certainly targeted by it however

Huh? 

Explicitly; "The SF mitigated Roncalli's hegemony".

Explain? 

[Guest DT]

6 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Huh? 

Explicitly; "The SF mitigated Roncalli's hegemony".

Explain? 

Did it not?  RHS has 12 state title game appearances.  One in the post SF period.

Edited October 2, 2020 by DT

[Footballking16]

8 minutes ago, DT said:

Did it not?

No it didn't lol.

If anything, the SF helped Roncalli because it moved Cathedral (basically permanently) from its 4A sectional and class enrollement. Roncalli's season was ended by Cathedral in 6 of the 7 years prior to the SF.

[Lysander]

11 minutes ago, DT said:

Did it not?  RHS has 12 state title game appearances.  One in the post SF period.

Now you’re just being intentionally obtuse.....hopefully.

[Footballking16]

17 minutes ago, DT said:

RHS has 12 state title game appearances.  One in the post SF period.

Roncalli didn't make it out of sectionals from 2006 to 2014, the first year the SF was implemented go figure. It's because Cathedral ended their season all but one year. Cathedral hasn't played in 4A since the SF's inception. Roncalli's made it out of sectional every year they've been in 4A post-SF. The only years they didn't make it out of sectionals since SF implementation is when they were once again paired with Cathedral in a 5A sectional.

[Guest DT]

8 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

No it didn't lol.

If anything, the SF helped Roncalli because it moved Cathedral (basically permanently) from its 4A sectional and class enrollement. Roncalli's season was ended by Cathedral in 6 of the 7 years prior to the SF.

If it indeed helped RHS as you say, they have not much taken advantage of it.  

1 minute ago, Footballking16 said:

Roncalli didn't make it out of sectionals from 2006 to 2014, the first year the SF was implemented go figure. It's because Cathedral ended their season all but one year. Cathedral hasn't played in 4A since the SF's inception. Roncalli's made it out of sectional every year they've been in 4A post-SF. The only years they didn't make it out of sectionals since SF implementation is when they were once again paired with Cathedral in a 5A sectional.

Noted.  This is not a Roncalli discussion.  No need to try and steer us off course

[Footballking16]

8 minutes ago, DT said:

If it indeed helped RHS as you say, they have not much taken advantage of it.  

How have they not? If there was no SF, Cathedral remains 4A this entire time (and in same sectional as Roncalli) as the same with New Pal and nobody knows who Roncalli is. Roncalli has avoided the two best 4A schools by enrollment (Cathedral/New Pal) for the last few years because.......the Success Factor. 

[gonzoron]

6 minutes ago, Lysander said:

Now you’re just being intentionally obtuse.

Once the train derails, he rolls with it right down the hill.

 

[Guest DT]

2 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Once the train derails, he rolls with it right down the hill.

 

Just losing interest.  Ive made my point, and generated some nice down time discussion on The GID.  Mission accomplished.

[Olympian06]

5 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

How have they not? If there was no SF, Cathedral remains 4A this entire time (and in same sectional as Roncalli) as the same with New Pal and nobody knows who Roncalli is. Roncalli has avoided the two best 4A schools by enrollment (Cathedral/New Pal) for the last few years because.......the Success Factor. 

Roncalli has been able to avoid Cathedral, New Pal, and CE which all would be in the south 4A state tournament. I believe CE has dropped enrollment again and would be classed as a 4A enrollment if not for the SF. 

[Guest DT]

8 minutes ago, Olympian06 said:

Roncalli has been able to avoid Cathedral, New Pal, and CE which all would be in the south 4A state tournament. I believe CE has dropped enrollment again and would be classed as a 4A enrollment if not for the SF. 

And despite avoiding all that stiff competition, only one state finals appearance since 2006

[Footballking16]

11 minutes ago, DT said:

And despite avoiding all that stiff competition, only one state finals appearance since 2006

Roncalli's "demise" and I say demise lightly, has nothing to do with the SF. The SF was implemented in 2014. They were 0fer in sectionals from 06-14 and it had nothing to do with the SF, because it doesn't exist. Since the SF was implemented, they've won a sectional every time they've been in 4A and have a state title. Not sure what Roncalli being good from 2002-2005 has to do with the SF nowadays? 

[Guest DT]

3 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Roncalli's "demise" and I say demise lightly, has nothing to do with the SF. The SF was implemented in 2014. They were 0fer in sectionals from 06-14 and it had nothing to do with the SF, because it doesn't exist. Since the SF was implemented, they've won a sectional every time they've been in 4A and have a state title. Not sure what Roncalli being good from 2002-2005 has to do with the SF nowadays? 

I have no further interest in discussing Roncalli football.  Carry on

[Coach Nowlin]

56 minutes ago, DT said:

Just losing interest.  Ive made my point, and generated some nice down time discussion on The GID.  Mission accomplished.

I was bout to type the following before I saw this:    

It seems to me that some folks were bored today.....  

Hence this thread....

[Muda69]

Whatever happened to the infamous Hurricane Scirfes?

 

[Coach Nowlin]

Last I heard he was involved in the Indy area CYO 

[Footballking16]

1 hour ago, DT said:

I have no further interest in discussing Roncalli football.  Carry on

In your best interest. Fair enough.

[CaptainHook]

42-0 over Shelbyville?  Too much?  Or not good enough?

[Guest DT]

53 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:

42-0 over Shelbyville?  Too much?  Or not good enough?

Looks better than 84. 0

[Muda69]

10 hours ago, CaptainHook said:

42-0 over Shelbyville?  Too much?  Or not good enough?

By my criteria New Palestine ran up the score versus the hapless Golden Bears.  Why?

 

[Footballking16]

1 minute ago, Muda69 said:

By my criteria New Palestine ran up the score versus the hapless Golden Bears.  Why?

 

Your criteria? Lol

[Muda69]

2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Your criteria? Lol

Yes.  My criteria is that if any team is 35+ points ahead of it's opponent at the end of the game then it ran up the score.  For several years I tracked such behavior in a spreadsheet and posted a popular weekly "Let's run up the score!" thread here on the GID containing the relevant information.