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The ENTIRE success factor promotion and "stay up" factors are 100% arbitrarily set. The success factor points and 2 year count process could easily be changed a number of ways which would yield other results. @Bobref claims the system is designed for when teams 'consistently' overwhelm the competition. Really? Is TWO years consistent? Or is it the byproduct of a good class of athletes attending a school at the right (or wrong, depending on perspective) time? East Central High school from 2015-2018 is a great example. Those four years: state runner up, Regional Champ, State Champ, Sectional Champ. That's 10 points in a 4 year span. 6 points in a two year span. But because it's a two year cycle that resets, they never bumped up to 5A. Meanwhile Indianapolis Scecina has losing seasons in 2009 and 2010. Then they are state runner up in 2011 and 2012. That's 6 points in two years - the RIGHT two years by the arbitrarily set standard and they get bumped up. So which team consistently played above their class? So the system currently in place tells Scecina they've had "enough" success while East Central hasn't. Got it. Making a change like a rolling 2 year count, a 4 year cycle count, adding a bonus to a state championship - making it worth 5 points instead of 4. All of these tweaks could be made to the current system. Would we say teams that get promoted under that system would be more or less representative of consistent success? And both @BTF and @slice60 feel Snider has been competitive enough in 6A. Perhaps. I am not downplaying any team that wins a sectional, representative of a good season and lots of hard work by the teams. But my biggest beef is that sectionals are somewhat geographically constructed and teams are blindly drawn. Being best in your local area is good enough, and not when judged against the entire state. The problem is not all sectionals are created equally, and it's more noticeable in 5A and 6A when there are four teams. New Pal is currently playing in 5A. So winning Sectional 14 should be viewed the same as winning sectional 13? And both of those are the same as winning sectional 16 two years in a row? Southridge is playing up in 3A. They were put in sectional 32. Winning sectional 32 is the same as winning sectional 30? And those are both the same accomplishment as winning sectional 28 in back to back years? No, I don't think being the best around and winning your sectional in two years is "enough" success to keep you up, when you had to be one of the best in the ENTIRE state to get promoted. And as the East Central/ Scecina comparison proves, even getting bumped up is more a matter of timing than continued success.

This thread is the spiciest thing we have had in a while on GID for SW Indiana....and it's just "ok". LOL The other regions expect more from us than this!

There was no whining or special "rules" when Sheridan was winning all their state championships. Different time I guess. Or maybe they weren't a private school. And you do realize that Cathedral hasn't won a state championship since 2014?

Still does not even address the question. And apparently, the strict interpretation of the Constitution that you profess often, only applies where you see fit?

That does not really address the question though. If it is a completely private institution, then yes, they have their rules. The crux of the issue for me is should this system be allowed to take tax dollars AND use a discriminatory hiring process? In my mind, one of them has to give. They should not have it both ways. If this were a public school, it would be illegal to fire this person. The money that the Catholic schools gets comes from the same source as public schools. Should they have to play by the exact same rules?

They got that town locked up with that big Distribution Center there.

Per 24/7 sports he has committed to Notre Dame!

No Meijer, no Target, so......I'm pretty much screwed.

Meijer in my case. I can't remember the last time I was in a Wal Mart.

That's true. Let's not fool ourselves, this is the Cathedral ruling! If there was any question about Bobby Cox and his dislike (mild term) for Cathedral football, this answers them. GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!

The Hammond schools consolidating into one Hammond High? Is that a real possibility? Throw in Munster joining the Duneland and you have a DT wet dream.

What IO said.

https://mises.org/wire/how-destroy-civilization If that isn’t a mark of a civilized society I don’t know what is. But Rome collapsed. I often wonder what would have happened if it hadn’t. Could we have avoided a thousand years of the Dark Ages. Could we have been flying airplanes and driving cars in the year 1000? What the hell happened to Rome? Dictators. After 500 years, the famous Roman Republic ended with the dictator Julius Caesar taking power. Four hundred years later his progeny and usurpers ran the Empire into the ground and Rome fell to invading barbarians. The standard explanation for Rome’s decline and fall is that they devolved into dictatorships (true, but not the cause of their fall). Or they became decadent and corrupt (true, but not the cause of their fall). They fell to barbarian invasions (true, but not the cause of their fall). Rome fell because the dictators ruined the Roman economy and the institutions that had made it prosperous. Rome was falling apart before the barbarian invasions. ... Much of Rome’s economic history is quite familiar in modern times. Even after thousands of years of evidence of repeated failure, bad ideas simply don’t die. Proponents of bad ideas are either ignorant of history or just ignorant. Or they are politicians (as Mark Twin said, “But I repeat myself.”). One bad idea with ancient precedents is Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). MMT is the New Thing among Progressives in America. Politicians like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) and Bernie are quite excited about MMT. They think they have discovered the Holy Grail of economics. Progressives believe that government can and should cause economic growth and prosperity. They believe government can do this by various controls, regulations, spending programs, and monetary manipulation. They believe proper government spending will stimulate demand, generate consumer spending, kick-start production, and, voila! we have full employment and prosperity. Along the way we can solve various social problems. The idea of MMT takes this one step further. They believe that the government can spend/buy whatever it wants and print pieces of greenish paper to pay for it. Government doesn’t need to tax us or borrow money to do this — it can print whatever money it needs to pay for it. Deficits don’t matter because by printing money to pay for stuff they instantly solve the deficit problem. MMTers claim, with no shortage of arrogance, that they, Oz-like, can fine-tune the mechanics of how the economy is to be run and generate prosperity, prevent inflation, end inequality, and save the planet. In other words, everything will be perfect; “just trust us” to run things. It sounds too good to be true. AOC and Bernie Sanders and their supporters heartily embrace MMT. They want to break free of old-fashioned concepts such as fiscal integrity, balanced budgets, and monetary stability because they want no limits on their utopian schemes. MMT is a crackpot idea. It is the monetary equivalent of the Perpetual Motion Machine — it ignores the laws of economics. It’s like asking third graders to invent money. (“I’m gonna print me a bunch of money and buy me a Ferrari an’ a jet an’ all the coolest video games an’ …”). Proponents confuse pieces of greenish paper with wealth and, as history has repeatedly proven, you can’t print your way to wealth and prosperity. There is nothing “modern” about Modern Monetary Theory. It has been tried many times over the centuries and it has never worked. In every case where governments have printed money to pay for things, the result has been cycles of boom and bust, inflation (and hyperinflation), economic stagnation, and social disorder. MMTers simply don’t understand what money is or the mechanics of the business cycle or the concept ofmalinvestment and the destruction of capital. Why is it not possible that we could go the way of Rome? Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal resulted in 25 years of economic stagnation. Only post-FDR deregulation, more economic freedoms, capital investment, and fiscal and monetary sanity led to economic growth. AOC’s Green New Deal plus MMT would be worse than the old New Deal in that it places no limit on government’s ability to spend which means government can command economic resources and control the direction of the economy. History has shown that governments aren’t very good at that. Absolute power in the hands of the few is a bad idea. How much destruction could MMT and utopian Progressive schemes like AOC’s utopian Green New Deal inflict on our civilization? It is hard to tell, but I hope we don’t have to look back some day and say the end started now. Agreed. One wonders if MMT will be part of the questions and answers in the first round of the Democratic candidate debates?

Let's just drop the idea of playing up. No one's ever done it and no one ever will. It's pretty clear that AD's and coaches are content on playing where the IHSAA places them regardless of whether they are private, parochial, or public. We can argue playing up until we are exhausted...........it's not going to happen. Certainly I'm missing something here. Why is it stupid for a team to "remain" after earning 2 points? Snider earned 2 points by winning sectional championships each year they were in 6a. A team that is good enough to win a sectional championship shouldn't be moving down a class. They failed to get past sectionals two of the past four years. Despite having a 4a enrollment, they are right where they belong..........in 5a. Agree 100%. I've criticized Snider, Cathedral, and Luers in the past for not voluntarily bumping up. But I've changed my tune. If I'm the AD, one of my responsibilities is the financial stability of the Athletic Department. The further you go in the tournament, the more you have in ticket sales. Therefore, boosting the Athletic Department. NO SCHOLL will voluntarily bump up...............not going to happen! AD's love the $$$$, Coaches love the hardware. Period.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/05/case-against-reparations-kevin-d-williamson/

https://reason.com/2019/06/25/man-this-cbo-report-about-unprecedented-debt-levels-is-a-bummer/ And nobody in the federal government seems to care. All they care about is getting re-elected and accumulating power. Again, just look at the future we are setting up for our children and grandchildren. Is this what we want, here in 2019?

The Wrenching Reparations Question: https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/06/slavery-reparations-debate-democratic-candidates/ Mr. Tanner brings up some of the difficult, if not impossible, implementation problems that a true reparations program would bring. Is this country truly wealthy enough to correctly implement such a program, but from a monetary and social standpoint? I don't believe that it is.

Reparations for Everyone, Apparently: https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/06/elizabeth-warrens-tax-plan-reparations-for-everyone/ *sigh*. So the slippery slope begins. Where does do reparations end? Say my sister was called "fat" by a couple of middle school gym teachers back in the 1970's and now claims government agents caused her irreparable emotional harm that seriously hinders her ability to hold a job. She should demand, and receive, reparations from the government. So why don't the prior slave holding states pass and fund their own slavery reparations programs, similar to what other states have done for these groups you describe?

Yes, the progressive belief in Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) aka "Just Print As Much Much Money As You Want, Everything Will Be Fine" will save us all.

Not if you truly believe the tax money goes with the child and not to some geographic entity like a "school district". And you truly believe in the parent being able to choose where their child goes to school, and where their tax money is getting spent.

To address your responses should reparations every become passed into law: 1) With "free money" on the line those folks will be coming out of the woodwork. Expect the federal courts to be tied up even more than they already are and the federal bureaucracy to grow even larger in response to whatever proof the federal government requires to prove an individual is an ancestor of slaves. And BTW the term "ancestor of slaves" is somewhat ambiguous. Expect court challenges on that one as well. 2) And exactly where will the U.S. government get this money? 3) Again, expect legal challenges to whatever figure the federal government comes up with, dragging the actual disbursement of payments out years, maybe decades. 4) Nice, feel good words. And as Mr. Coleman Hughes stated in his address to Congress: "Reparations by definition are only given to victims, so the moment you give me reparations, you’ve made me into a victim without my consent. Not just that, you’ve made 1/3 of black Americans who poll against reparations into victims without their consent, and black Americans have fought too long for the right to define themselves to be spoken for in such a condescending manner." 5) Yes, much like the ultimately ill-fated "individual mandate" of Obamacare. I have to pay just because I exist in the United States of America. That isn't freedom, it is yet another form of bondage.

Sanders-Ocasio-Cortez Plan to Cap Credit Card Interest Rates Will Backfire on Consumers: https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/sanders-ocasio-cortez-plan-cap-credit-card-interest-rates-will-backfire Agreed. The federal government needs to keeps it's long nose out of this.