BDGiant93

Are you saying strength coaches do not have teaching responsibilities because I would think that many would dispute that.

At one time, Ben Davis' Giants Stadium was named Dr. Sidney Spencer Field. That name went by the wayside. It's now just Giants Stadium.

They can be administrator positions, that's true.

Well, you can say that. I'm just telling you that if there's ghost employment going on in schools then that's a crime. It's in Indiana Code.

There are no made up positions. They all have to be listed somewhere in a job description and someone's teaching responsibilities and schedule are set by the district. You're suggesting some sort of "ghost employment" scenario which cannot happen by state law. So, you can hire a teacher and make them whatever you want, but that has to be an on the book position. Not sure what West's duties were at Warren, but he was listed as Assistant Athletic Director. That means he had a teacher's contract plus whatever stipend the AAD got and whatever the Head Football Coach got. I honestly don't know how "lay coaches" work. A fancy name for "Merit pay".

Teacher raises are completely negotiated by unions and admin. There's no formula. Each school also gets a share of the TAG (Teacher Appreciation Grant) to dole out with stipulations. Pay scales are no longer in effect in most districts. Wayne Township, for example, did away with its scale in last contract negotiation. You start at a base rate and then raises are negotiated. So, where ever you were on the scale, that's where you are now. In Wayne Township, new teachers are locked at the bottom until raises (if any) are negotiated. Coaching pay is set by the extracurricular amounts negotiated by the union in Wayne. Teacher salary + coaching amount.

MaxPreps for years referred to Ben Davis as Davis High School. I tried to explain to them that Ben Davis is not named after a person directly but the community of Ben Davis (which barely exists anymore). They never were interested in my many opportunities to correct them. I believe they finally changed the name when the BD girls basketball team had their run to the National Championship in 2009 and they realized no one called Ben Davis just Davis. The community of Ben Davis derives(d) its name from a Vandalia Railroad Executive who got a stop on the railroad for the community. That was the Ben Davis stop and the community became known as Ben Davis.

It was a great rivalry and a very unique series.

This.

They might pursue him, but I can't imagine Mike coming back into the MIC. Not at this stage of his career. Been there, done that, has the t-shirt. I would have to root for him though.

HAHAHA. Ask Criss Beyers. He did the same thing in basketball.

Ben Davis lost to Penn in 1996.

He's not leaving IU's rocket ship.

Mike Kirschner left with no immediate intention of going anywhere else. Mount Vernon came after him. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2020/12/07/ihsaa-football-warren-central-coach-jayson-west-leaves-franklin-central-indiana/6481998002/ Kyle Neddenriep's story. I respect Jayson West a lot. He is a good man, and I hope he does well at FC. He's done a good job at Warren Central.

🍿 (Pulls up a seat)

It wouldn't be a DT post if there wasn't some ridiculous conference conjecture.

Franklin Central is an ok job. I think they'll struggle to be competitive in football in the HCC. Never understood the move. It's a nice place to work. I was there for two years.

Coach Brevard is a sensational human being.

Congratulations to Ben Davis Alum Mike Brevard ('09) on a new opportunity to coach linebackers at his alma mater! https://twitter.com/coach_brevard/status/1334295326371377152?s=20

Yes, that's accurate. A college coach in the Big Ten.

Tom would still be at Ben Davis if he stayed. His 2004 team should probably have beaten Warren in the Regional. The '05 team struggled and was young. The '06 team lost to WC.

Fair point.

I for one hope that everyone gets a full offseason under the same rules and regs. Not an excuse (CG was the class of 6A by far), but county location made a difference in what programs were able to do.

What if we just make six classes totally based on success and points rather than enrollment? This way a school at the tail end a class is competing against schools it's much more competitive against and vice versa.

You tend to be knowledgeable about high school football at all levels as well as many of the nuances involved with why teams succeed or don't. I've been around the neighborhood, however, long enough to know that it's not always what you say but how you say it. Sometimes it seems that you say things specifically to get a response. If I'm wrong on that assessment, I apologize. It works both ways, though. I have posted things here I'm not proud of, and I admit there have been a few times that I have crafted a response and decided not to hit reply. Sometimes it's best just not to reply and move on. I direct this quote not at anyone, but I post it because I like it. As Mark Twain or Abe Lincoln (I've seen it attributed both ways) said, "Tis better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."