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Stated it earlier in this thread - but eventually the Miners will have to figure out the "MD Curse/Spell" or whatever it is you want to call it that they've had over them since our Sectional 40 days. 

Totally a shot out of left field as I haven't seen much of these 2 teams , but law of averages says Linton should eventually when one of these. Plus I don't think MD is what they were last year. Give me Linton by 2 scores. 

2 years ago we played AT Lawrenceburg (a 3 + hour bus trip) for Regionals - and won 49-28

This year, they came to our place and put it on us, 31-7. 

I don't see the "bus trip" argument holding much water. 

It's only an excuse when/if you need it. 

This past weekend, while all others were enjoying their Friday night games and the opening day of deer season - we had to play on SATURDAY and it dumped about 2 inches of WET snow from 9-11 am. The forecast wasn't going to help us with any sunshine in time for a 5 pm kickoff. I can't imagine what our playing surface would have been like had we had a grass field - but it would have been a travesty to play a Championship level game in those conditions.

1 hour ago, Titan32 said:

I believe this is the first time in 11 years a PAC or SIAC school hasn't been represented in the 3A south semi-state.

Our bad ...BUT, Lawrenceburg was pretty good - and it ended up being "one of those nights" ( a lot of which was caused by Lawrenceburg). 7-6 halftime score in favor of the Raiders - some missed opportunities we let slip away in the 1st half (I'm sure they could say the same thing). 2nd half after tipped pass interception, it was all L-Burg

As far as this game goes - Monrovia is the complete mystery of the post-season. I know they like to hang their hat on their run game (and all I can say is GOOD LUCK if you think you'll just line up and just push L-burg around) - BUT they did hit a few passes to win the game vs. Owen Valley. Monrovia' Offense can be a challenge- but I think Greensburg provided enough of an appetizer that it won't be completely foreign to L-Burg. 

I would be a tad surprised if L-Burg doesn't punch their ticket to LOS - BUT - Monrovia did survive a sectional with Tri-West, Western Boone, and Danville....that is a meat-grinder. 

Eventually Linton will crack the "MD code/curse/whatever you want to call it" - they are too good a program not to. 

Typically I would have a pretty good pulse on this game, as both were old Sectional 40 adversaries (how much fun would that old sectional have been this year!?) and I would have watched plenty of snaps from both.

But, not anymore...have only seen very little on Linton, and not one snap of MD all year. 

But- feel like this years Linton team has that "this is our year" vibe to it....I'll take Linton by a couple scores. 

1 hour ago, tango said:

Would Southridge play at Jasper?

Interesting. I knew that Memorial considered Enlow their "homefield" - but wasn't aware that they would refuse to play on others field if it was in fact their home game.

I seem to remember a day and age when Mater Dei would glady go to other fields in order to keep the game on Friday - but I also remember when they would play on Saturdays because none were available. 

Again - doesn't much matter - just didn't understand the dynamic if EC wanted to play Saturday. 

Good luck to both teams

14 minutes ago, TigerFan20 said:

Their HC wanted to keep it routine and wanted to play on Friday

Well...we must have heard conflicting reports. It was my understanding they (EC) requested Saturday as were told their was a "craft fair" at Enlow. 

It was at that time the HC just said "play it on Friday then" 

So my question was why weren't other E-ville fields offered?? 

Can't believe this game is tonight and not tomorrow. I understand Bosse field is occupied by a "craft fair" - but really, none of the other 6 Evansville fields available?? 

Just a little jealous actually - wish we were playing tonight. The extra day can be excruciating!! 

4 hours ago, RoadRunner said:

Who is Lawrenceburg's studs this year? I dont see a "Garrett Yoon" in the lineup for the first time in what seems like forever. The way it sounds is this will be a completely different Lawrenceburg team with not much of a passing attack as opposed to years past.

When you are waxing your opponents by an average of 28+ (outside of EC) , really no need to throw the ball. Their QB is plenty capable. L-Burg is solid all the way around, Raiders will have their hands full. 

Absolutely not - you don't want to open up that can of worms. 

1 hour ago, HHPatriots said:

I haven't seen Lawrenceburg play.  I have seen Southridge play twice.  What I can tell you is that we (Heritage Hills) are a decent team and they absolutely man handled us.  We were bigger and stronger than them at virtually every position and they still torched us--twice.  Players to watch?  11 of them.  They are all fast, very well coached and extremely disciplined.  Excellent team.  

I am rooting for them to roll this all the way to Lucas Oil to have their opportunity to get beat by Chatard (I wish it would work out the other way, but it won't).  Now that we are out, GO RAIDERS!

LOL....thanks for the compliment, I guess?? 

ps...bigger doesn't always = stronger

Congrats to the Miners - 

Boy what fun an ol Sectional 40 would have been this year, huh??! (MD, SR, and Linton) ...

From afar , it seems like MD isn't quite the team they were last year - whereas it seems Linton is every bit if not more than years past. 

SO - if not this year for Linton to get over the MD hump, then when? 

ps...this is assuming MD gets past Triton, which I don't think is a given.

On 11/1/2022 at 4:24 PM, FarmerFran said:

Single wingish overload offense with loads of formations to run the same running schemes. Lots of pulling linemen and sniffer backs. 

Geez ...does everyone in the HNAC run some sort of "Wing" offense!?!? Granted, I know very little about the conference, except what I read on here. But between the above mention Knox, Pioneer, Judson, LaVille...

1 minute ago, Oldschool said:

Just watched it again it was 3rd and a short 5 from the 42 1/2 yard line with 10:17 to go in the 4th.  Instead of running it twice to get the first down,  we threw it twice!  Unbelievable!

Always easy to play arm-chair QB. 

What offense scheme did Radtke bring to Knox?? How long has he been there now ? 

Don't think Sullivan can match Linton's physicality and/or stop their run game - Linton wins comfortably.  

46 minutes ago, Screagle said:

Anybody have SIAC and PAC champs getting beat tonight?  I sure didn’t.  

"Have not seen a bit of film on the Panthers this season, so I may totally eat my words - but if Boonville has their heads on straight, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Panthers heading home Friday. Just saying..."

Wow - I'll eat my words on this one. I was dead wrong. 

Congrats to OV

1 hour ago, Bobref said:

I am passionate about this. The reason: As an official you have to make a real effort to not know this rule interpretation, since it’s been out there for years and years. So, one lazy crew let’s someone get away with it, and then every crew the rest of the season that tells the coach he can’t do it suffers as a result. Same thing with sideline management. A few bad crews spoil it for the rest of us.

i might add, this is the type of thing that shows the unfairness and downright irrationality of the coaches’ vote system.

In my opinion- I don't think that's necessarily fair- as I believe the way the rule is written, it leaves itself open for interpretation. (Meaning, it's not just clearly black/white). 

What one official may view as "clearly intended" - another official may not. (I know you don't want to hear that)

And we can agree to disagree. And it the end you will be correct because you wear the stripes, and I do not! 

LOL ....this seems to have become Bobref's "cross-to-bear" so-to-speak. 

Maybe that's not the correct phrase..."white whale" ?? 

Just something that he seems to be very passionate about. 

I think I have issue with interpretation of the rule- but we've gone down that rodeo before lol

I know Providence has a solid squad - but I have a hard time believing a team that lost to 1A Providence will give HH trouble. 

28 minutes ago, HHPatriots said:

The one loss we had against them in 2015 was unfortunate.  We were up pretty big, controversial call.....blah, blah.....

The bigger problem was that Kenton Crews was sick in that game and hacking his guts up in the huddle.  Dude was not well.  All in the past, need to focus on Friday and getting the W.   I want a rematch against Southridge in the Jungle.

Duly noted...

15 hours ago, wvigo13 said:

Thanks! It'd be great to host GS. We don't have a chance of winning but it'd be nice to see the defending the state champs in our house. 

Wait...what?? You don't stand a chance of beating Pike Central?? 

Ok then...

Have not seen a bit of film on the Panthers this season, so I may totally eat my words - but if Boonville has their heads on straight, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Panthers heading home Friday. Just saying...

I know 10-0 vs. 10-0 is exciting. 

And kuddos to Owen Valley for reaching that mark and turning around their program

BUT - I don't think they have any idea what they're in store for Friday night. 

Just my humble opinion

43 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

I think while its an interesting concept, seeding has its flaws as well just going off of the way in which they were decided here. Are we basing it off of regular season wins, sectional wins, sagarin rating, or a combination of all three? Are other factors involved? We've all one time or another said the sagarin ratings are flawed at times. For instance I hear time in and time out how the Summit conference has a weird sagarin rating due to all teams playing one another. There are also the teams that play out of state. That has to be taken into consideration if sagarin is the route you go. If you go regular season, you have a lot of 1 and 2A teams that play bigger schools that they probably won't win most years. If you go sectional record, not all teams play sectional opponents and if they do they may be the lower teams in the sectional that you don't want to see matched up in sectional anyway. If we want to seed sectionals, we might as well not have conferences and play each team in the sectional with two games played at the beginning of the season or end with more for sectionals that don't have 8 teams. That would be the one way I see sectionals getting seeded without controversy. Otherwise there are always going to be problems people have with seeding no matter how you decide to combine the previous three ways of seeding I mentioned above. While the ping pong balls don't fall the way people want them to year in and out, it adds a beauty to Indiana high school football that most states don't have. While its not ideal in most people's eyes, it keeps the blame of deciding who plays who from any one and places it on those gosh darn ping pong balls.

Not trying to bash on anything you did here crimsonace1. This is an interesting and debatable idea and thank you for taking the time to do this!

I don't think anyone is saying there will be a perfect system in any format - but what seeding does allow that the "blind draw" does not is giving credence to a good regular season. The regular season should mean SOMETHING. 

Wrestling coaches have figured this out for years. You establish a criteria, and stick with it. Will there be some grumblings about who got the #1 or who got the #5...sure, but it sure as heck beats the alternative of having 1-8 playing 1-8 while 2 unbeaten play in the 1st round. And anyone who can't see that is just being stubborn. 

Which brings me to my last point in all of this - unfortunately the IHSAA isn't going to take any action without the nudging of the IFCA...and unfortunately half of the coaches in the State won't support seeding, because they are hoping for that 2-7 vs. 1-8 and to be able to "sneak" into the 2nd round or Championship. Which, to me, is too bad.