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As long as he’s on the end of the line and wearing an eligible number, the numbering exception does not matter. He’s always going to be eligible. Now, there is one uncommon scenario where #13 could be on the end of the line and be ineligible. See if anyone comes up with it.

I’d have to see the situation. There have been instances where a game has ended prematurely due to a fight. It’s the Referee’s call, but as a practical matter, it’s usually done in consultation with the coaches/administrators.

The IHSAA does not have a similar rule. It’s up to the guy in the white hat, who is the only one that can declare the game over.

Still eligible.

Does this reference a specific game? The “swinging gate” can present a real challenge for the officiating crew. If there’s Hudl video I’d like to take a look at it.

He’s on the end of the line, wearing an eligible number. So, he is eligible.

Thanks to DK and everyone who played a part in getting the site back up and running.

In an effort to be more efficient, so we can move on to more productive topics: Others: “The NCAA really socked it to Michigan, in the form of multiple “show causes, fines & suspensions. Deservedly so, as they were proved to be despicable cheaters.” Temptation: “The NCAA is a toothless clown show.” Others: “The evidence — at least the part the Michigan people didn’t destroy or conceal — showed a pervasive, well thought out, and well-funded scheme to steal signals.” Temptation: “There’s no proof that any competitive advantage was ever gained.” Others: “With the scheme in place, they won a national championship. Without it, they clearly took a step back last season.” Temptation: “But still beat the eventual national champs in the big game on their own field.” Hopefully, that’ll take care of it and we can move on.

The B1G is floating a radical new playoff format proposal … and there’s little doubt who it’s aimed at. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45994245/big-ten-floating-idea-24-28-team-cfp-sources-say The Big Ten has considered an idea of a massive expansion of the College Football Playoff that would grow the postseason to 24 or 28 teams, sources told ESPN. While the idea is in the very early stages, the proposal eliminates conference title games and offers a large number of auto bids for all four power leagues, sources said. For example, in the 28-team model, the Big Ten and SEC would each get seven auto bids while the ACC and Big 12 would each receive five. There would be two auto bids for the non-Power 4 conferences and two at-large teams. Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti ran the idea by his conference Wednesday, sources said, and that it has begun being shared by others. The 2025 season will be the second year of the 12-team playoff. College football leaders have been discussing expansion to 16 teams over the past year, but disagreement over the number of at-large teams vs. auto bids has been a sticking point.

The replaced player must begin to leave the field within 3 seconds of being replaced.

Only 15 days until the 2025 edition of “Catholics vs. Convicts.”

Keep in mind that having more than 11 in the huddle is not a foul. I don’t know how many coaches I’ve had to explain this to over the years, but it’s a lot. The substitution rule requires only that a player who is being replaced leave the field “immediately.” The official interpretation of “immediately” is that the player being replaced must begin to leave within 3 seconds of being replaced.

Many crews have a few signals unique to them, which is fine. “Crossed hands” are often used to remind other crew members that it’s 4th down. The signal means “game clock stops after this play.” It reminds the crew to kill the clock at the end of the play.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/michigan-sign-stealing-penalties-jim-harbaugh-10-year-show-cause-hefty-fines-among-ncaa-punishments/ Michigan sign-stealing penalties: Jim Harbaugh 10-year show-cause, hefty fines among NCAA punishments Sherrone Moore also faces additional suspension with the ruling by the Committee on Infractions (COI) The NCAA imposed a significant fine on Michigan, reportedly exceeding $20 million, stemming from the loss of postseason football revenue over the next two seasons. This comes as a part of its sanctions following an investigation into an alleged sign-stealing scheme involving former Wolverines staffer Connor Stalions. Jim Harbaugh, who served as head coach at the time, will receive a show-cause for 10 years. Stalions has an eight-year show-cause. Penalties for coach Sherrone Moore include a two-year show-cause order, during which he is suspended for three games. That includes the self-imposed two-game suspension in addition to the first game of the 2026 season. A The ruling by the Committee on Infractions (COI) can be viewed here. Below is a full list of penalties for the Wolverines. Four years of probation. Financial penalties: $50,000 fine, plus 10% of the budget for the football program. A fine equivalent to the anticipated loss of all postseason competition revenue sharing associated with the 2025 and 2026 football seasons. A fine equivalent to the cost of 10% of the scholarships awarded in Michigan's football program for the 2025-26 academic year. A 25% reduction in football official visits during the 2025-26 season. A 14-week prohibition on recruiting communications in the football program during the probation period. Connor Stalions: An eight-year show-cause order, restricting him from all athletically related activities during the show-cause period. Jim Harbaugh: A 10-year show-cause order, restricting him from all athletically related activities during the show-cause period, which will begin on Aug. 7, 2028, at the conclusion of his four-year show-cause order from a previous case. Denard Robinson: A three-year show-cause order, restricting him from all athletically related activities during the show-cause period. Sherrone Moore: A two-year show-cause order, during which he is suspended from a total of three games. Michigan self-imposed a two-game suspension for Moore during the upcoming 2025-26 football season. The panel determined that a suspension for one additional game was appropriate. Therefore, Moore also will be suspended for the first game of the 2026-27 season. Apart from the three-game suspension, Moore is not prohibited from engaging in coaching or other athletically related activities during the show-cause period. Michigan athletic director Warde Manuel recently pointed to NCAA president Charlie Baker's comments after the Wolverines won the national championship, saying Baker told him "they won it fair and square." The school previously accused the NCAA of "grossly overreaching" and "wildly overcharging" the program, noting that out of 52 games involving Michigan opponents Stalions allegedly scouted, only one was attended by Stalions himself, according to documents obtained by Yahoo Sports. Eight others were attended by then-Michigan staff members, while the remainder involved friends and family -- attendance that is not an NCAA violation. The case stems from an alleged advanced-scouting network orchestrated by Stalions in violation of NCAA Bylaw 11.6.1, which prohibits in-person scouting of future opponents. Investigators alleged Stalions purchased tickets in his own name for more than 30 games involving 11 different Big Ten schools over a three-year span, and also bought tickets to the 2021 and 2022 SEC Championship Games. An anonymous Division III coach told investigators that Stalions hired him to gather information on future Big Ten opponents. The scandal first came to light in October 2023 when the Big Ten launched its own investigation. Stalions resigned in November 2023, and Michigan dismissed linebackers coach Chris Partridge after allegedly destroying evidence -- though Partridge denied knowledge of the scheme. In July, Michigan suspended Moore for two games in the 2025 season after he allegedly deleted a thread of 52 text messages with Stalions. Moore will miss Michigan's Week 3 matchup against Central Michigan and its Week 4 Big Ten opener against Nebraska, but will coach against his alma mater Oklahoma in Week 2. The Wolverines open the 2025 season on Aug. 30 against New Mexico. Michigan enters the year with question marks after losing seven players to the NFL Draft, but adds top-ranked freshman quarterback Bryce Underwood and veteran transfer Mikey Keene to its offense, along with new playmakers at wide receiver.

Take a look at this play. Under NF rules, is there a foul here? https://www.facebook.com/reel/1801768874104562/

Too easy.

Here’s one that has been circulating online that could trip up even veteran officials: 1st & 15 for A from their 40 yd. line. QB A1 runs the option to the right. At the A 38 he pitches back to A4, who catches the backward pass at the A35 and ends up running to the A 46. Immediately after the QB pitches the ball, while the backward pass is still in the air, defensive end B6 takes 2 steps and drives his shoulder into A1’s head. Is this a foul and, if so, how is it enforced? Down & distance for the next play?

The NFL has banned the use of ammonia (smelling salts) on the grounds that it can mask concussion symptoms. I didn’t even know they still used it. But it was widely used way back when I played. Nasty stuff!

I don’t think so.

No idea. Regardless, I’m certainly not going to second-guess the young man for making a decision based on whatever factors were important to him. And for the record, I abhor the “look at me” culture of young athletes today. But clearly, it’s simply reflective of that attitude in the non-athlete population as well. It’s a generational thing.

Nothing pathetic about a young man looking to maximize his opportunities.

@Muda69 talkin’ football! Like the first robin is a sign that Spring is near, this means the season is right around the corner.

IO, this is known technically as the Dunning-Kruger Effect, where a person is unaware of their own lack of knowledge on a subject. In other words, “you don’t know what you don’t know.”

The Manual will be updated with 2025 changes and online by (🤞) Aug. 1. There are only a few changes/additions. But this is the biggest one. All changes are being sent to certification clinicians and local associations football program chairs. In an effort to provide more balanced coverage of the field on punt returns, we have adopted the “alternating wing” mechanic. It works like this” ■ R assumes an initial position on the kicker’s foot, as before. ■ B keys on R, and assumes his position on the side of the field opposite from R. If there are twin returners, B assumes a position outside the returner on the side opposite R’s initial lineup. ■ The wing official on the opposite side from R holds at the LOS until the kick goes beyond the neutral zone. ■ The wing official on the same side as R releases from the LOS at the snap and hustles down that sideline for downfield coverage. ■ In the event of a fake, block, or scramble, R is responsible for the near sideline and K’s goal line. The “stay” wing official has the same responsibilities on the other side of the field. ■ U should be ready to assist in determining the forward progress spot in the event there is a block, fake, or scramble, and the ball goes beyond the NZ on R’s side of the field.