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Thank you for the answer. It was just a thought I had. I know what Jackson brings to the table and the incorporation of spread with his talents. I also know Coach Moore adapts to his talent. You have more of an eye on what is behind current starters, thought I would ask.

Doesn't pertain to this game but more of a question for a knowledgeable CG guy. After Jackson graduates do you think we will see CG in more Wing T sets with occasional spread with the QB behind him? Or do you think it will be more 50/50 or a little heavier to spread sets. Just curious because I don't get to see much of CG's back-ups.

I have watched a couple of games. From what I have seen the Irish defense has looked very good. If I were to pick something of a weakness of the defense it would be their occasional mental lapses. By that I mean when they have a lapse and unnecessary penalties that extend a drive like an encroachment etc. They play fast and physical though. I do admit I have only watched New Pal against Decatur Central (a game they should have won) and last week against Whiteland. Aside from the 1 long TD run Whiteland had early on (listening to Coach Ralph at halftime talk about that play made me chuckle his wording was perfect and I enjoy listening to him speak what goes through his mind). New Pal doesn't tend to have a wow factor player on their team and they are young. I am very impressed how well they play as a team. I am also impressed with their improvement from week 1 to now (even though they should have won the week 1 game). You can tell Coach Ralph and staff work really hard on the fundamentals and conditioning of their players. I would say all of you are thankful each passing week for the mind Coach Ralph has when it comes to football, his players, staff, and community. More importantly I hope Max is having fun and you are having fun watching him play! Has Sampson cut his hair yet (I kid I kid).

All in fun brother.

Nor do I, but I would imagine deception or cheating wasn't the intention. I only stated the rule because it was brought up about Friday night and special teams. Reading the rule it looks like any special teams play doesn't count toward the quarter rule so I didn't get the correlation for Varsity. Like I said I don't put much into JV games other than it is rep for players that aren't Varsity starters.

I don't and didn't rationalize any non-compliance/cheating. Just don't put much into JV football games or deem a school evil (especially when it is tournament time and there are no JV game). Shouldn't have any bearing on "Special Teams" for Friday Night Q. 54-3 Is a football player charged with a quarter of participation if the student participates in a Varsity kicking down? A. No, a student participating just in a Varsity kicking downs (kickoffs, kickoff returns, punts, punt returns, field goals, and kicked extra points) during a quarter will not have the quarter count under the maximum quarter rule, rule 54-3.1. Q. 54-4 What is the maximum number of season quarters in which a football player may participate during one week? A. Maximum weekly season quarter participation is as follows: Varsity Sub-varsity 4 0 3 1 2 4 1 4 0 4 I've seen Coach Peebles coach at Southport (even played CG a few times) and Lawrence Central. Has not had a bad culture anywhere he has coached. You believe what you want honestly that is up to you. Just like some wanted to cast a bad shadow on Coach Moore's coaching culture (a soured parent from what I hear). I wouldn't make generalized statement about culture of a staff you haven't even worked with. For the 2nd time back to the game at hand between New Pal and Cathedral. Are both teams looking to be relatively healthy? Everyone has bumps and bruises right now any significant injuries.

Ah I see. So a Cathedral JV player got in for a few snaps on Friday night and played in the JV game on Saturday and now they are evil. Okay, neve thought I would see the day so much importance was put on the play of JV. At any rate should be a good game between the Dragon's and Irish Friday night.

Assignments An IHSAA Recognized Assigner shall assign IHSAA Officials through the use of The Arbiter. An IHSAA Recognized Assigner shall assign IHSAA Officials to contest based upon competence. An IHSAA Recognized Assigner shall assign IHSAA Officials to contest without regard to race, national origin, gender or age. An IHSAA Recognized Assigner may not exclude an IHSAA Official who is a member of another assigner’s group and may not limit the assignment of an IHSAA Official based upon the Official’s membership in any particular local association. All game contracts shall be between the member school and the IHSAA Official; the contract will be generated and sent to the official through The Arbiter. I should also state with how short handed officials are, I think any school will take what they can get. Like I said I am clueless on your quote or number 2 with something dealing with a JV game. It wouldn't be something I would know about, care to know about, or any of my business. Obviously it has you upset.

Like I said the hatred is obvious. Very difficult post to read. Not sure what you are speaking of the first example (JV quarter limit). The 2nd doesn't IHSAA give referee's to Officiate HS games. Not sure how I tied into this, but okay.

JH has it as 42-24 in favor of Zionsville based off of Sagarin ratings Fort Wayne Dwenger (7-4) at Zionsville (7-5) GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Zionsville. COACHES: Jason Garrett, 42-9 in 4th year at Bishop Dwenger. Scott Turnquist, 19-18 in 3rd year at Zionsville. SAGARIN RATINGS: Zionsville, 85.6, 17th overall, 5th in 5A. Bishop Dwenger, 67.78, 70th overall, 16th in 5A. LAST OUTING: Bishop Dwenger defeated Fort Wayne Snider, 42-20. Zionsville defeated Kokomo, 42-17. OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Bishop Dwenger 56-56. Zionsville 65-59. SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Zionsville, 2-0 LAST MEETING: Zionsville, 30-21, Nov. 13, 2020, regional. jh PREDICTION: Zionsville, 42-24.

I am sure they get it and aware of your hatred for the team they support. doubt they would lose their mind with a loss (at least most of the regulars I see on here).

Cathedral turned the ball over to CG on downs with 1:39 after an incomplete pass on 4th down (on 3rd down the Irish QB slipped and fell at around the 8). CG had the ball first and goal from the 8. After 2 running plays on 1st and 2nd down CG scored with 27.7 secs left on 3rd down (Cathedral had all 3 timeouts as they did not call one).

I think the claims are coming after slobberknocker proclaimed a 3 TD victory for the Dragons. I won't say the d\Dragon's can't win the game, but I very seriously doubt the beat the Irish by 21 points if they were to win. The DC vs New Pal game was week 1. Both DC and New Pal have improved since then as have the Irish. New Pal should not be taken lightly.

No Cathedral did not take any timeout after they turned the ball over on downs deep in their own territory. It was under 2 minutes when CG started 1st and 10. I believe they scored on 3rd down with about 40 secs remaining. I would have to go back and look at the video.

So are you saying NP will beat Cathedral 21-0? Not sure what you mean. BTW the Cathedral vs Brebeuf game was 38-7 prior to subbing, Brebeuf scored 14 points in the 4th qtr against 2nd and 3rd string defense. 😂 always helping the helpless. I could see someone predicting a win by a FG or something but a 3 TWow just wow! win. w

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The only reason I don't like this is because most only think of the strong Parochial/Private schools (Cathedral, Chatard, Roncalli, Lutheran, etc). There are however Private/Parochial schools that don't enjoy success that this would effect (Providence, Oldenburg Academy, Hammond Noll, Park Tudor). That is why I like the Success Factor it addresses teams with success as there are Public schools that enjoy success. When it comes to schedules I really don't see that being a determining factor, Schools that are not in a conference schedule whoever they can get each year. Some years those schedules are tougher than other years.

What about the Mooresville, Moeller, Roncalli games. I think those are good barameters.

No dog in the fight but honestly, I wouldn't lobby petition to play anywhere (down or up). I would sit back and let them move you to where you fall (enrollment, success factor etc). Just leave it up to the IHSAA (like every other team/school). Success on the field moves you up, non success puts you in you're enrollment class. I have respect for many programs. Do you honestly believe (no offense to New Pal) that if New Pal loses Friday night they will petition to stay in 5A or will they allow themselves to go back down to 4A. I don't mean that in a mean way at all, most likely they they are going to let the IHSAA move them wherever they should be. I don't think that should be any different for any school be it Private/PP or Public. Play where they place you!

The last 3 years they probably haven't needed to with Perry Meridian, Tech, and Southport. Prior to 2018 though they were in some rather strong Sectionals. I think for a couple years it was BD, WC, LN, and LC. Then prior to that I believe they were in with Avon and Brownsburg.

You will have to excuse @Lysander Mrs. Lysander might have given him a curfew (I kid)

I would say 100% yes they should be very good next year with a lot of young talent learning this year. They actually have progressed to be good this year with what you would call trial by fire. They graduated an extremely talented group in 2019. When you have that many talented upperclassmen playing the underclassmen don't get as many reps and they will have to learn with experience. New Pal definitely has a bright future, heck they are playing good football right now. I watched them against Decatur Central (a game they should have won) and they were solid, they just needed to learn and grow. Yes they took some lumps starting 1-3, but they learned a lot about themselves in those 3 losses to good teams (all who are still playing minus DC who lost to Cathedral last Friday). Agreed, I remember you specifically stating in a post they had a lot of learning to do. Coach Ralph and staff have definitely gone to work and have them improving each week.

I would say for Center Grove it is about personnel. CG still runs Wing T, but with Jackson at QB they can be very versatile and run some spread. CG has mixed in spread from time to time over the past few years, they may be in spread a little more now though with Jackson.

I actually like Calpreps rankings on making sense. Only because Sagarin does not include out of state opponents and Calpreps does. Calpreps has a pretty nifty rankings you can also look at trends with it.

No player from New Pal's current team was on the field in 2019. However there are a few Seniors on Cathedral's current team that were on the field in 2019 both Offensively and Defensively and were starting as Sophomore's. That being said I am sure the players are just preparing for their current opponent and not things from 2019. I believe he was talking about New Pal's current team (2021) is Sophomore/Junior heavy. New Pal's 2019 team that beat Cathedral in the Regional 35-10 was Senior/Junior heavy.