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There was some non-factual information. Only the last 8 State Championships in the largest class have been won by MIC schools. 2012-13 season was won by Lawrence Central. They are in the MIC now but they were not when they won the 5A State Championship. Larence Central and Pike were both in Conference Indiana at the time. 2 years prior to that Fishers beat Lawrence Central (2 non MIC teams).

P/P may not have mentally challenged kids, but there most certainly are physically challenged kids at P/P.

Asnine, no parity created. Literally you are talking about maybe 20 teams in P/P split into 2.

Honestly I don't know that Chatard had a super star at any position. However I think they had excellent players as a collective group. Nobody really stood out or would wow you in the stats, but they played solid fundamental football. The ultimate team I guess you would say. They kind of spread the wealth around.

Yes, sounds like someone fudged up there. Just have to ask where do you prefer to eat your green eggs and ham?

The way it was explained to me was you could not get both SGO and Financial Aid or Vouchers and Financial Aid or SGO and Vouchers. When you apply for Voucher you are getting just Voucher, when you apply for SGO you are getting just SGO, and when you apply for Financial Aid you are getting just Financial Aid. The only thing that can be added on to any of the 3 are the 2 merit scholarships. The Presidential Scholarship ($3,000 per year / $12,00 for 4 years) and Cathedral Scholarship ($1,500 per year / $6,000 over 4 years). In order to qualify for those the Presidential Scholarship you have to score 98th to 99th percentile on the placement exam and Cathedral Scholarship 96th or 97th percentile on the placement exam. They are renewable each year only as long as the student maintains a 3.5 GPA or higher and takes Honors classes or higher (and of course maintains proper behavior). Hope this helped. Possibly, I didn't type it only inquired about options when I was looking to send my children there. I would guess it wasn't in the thought process when typing out things for the website.

You are not wrong though that there are some differences between Private and Parochial. Some are advantages for one over the other and some are disadvantages. Regardless the whole P/P vs Public is pretty moot with Open Enrollment for Public schools. Especially when that fee for an out of district at a Public school is far less than the tuition at a Private or Parochial. I have no doubt you were looking for answers to what you read. Just wanted to give my personal experience when I actually inquired to the school about options.

Makes sense. Perhaps a mistake on their part? However it was pretty cut and dry in the case of Zionsville vs Dwenger as a forfeit is not treated as a bye.

Agreed!

I certainly don't have entitlement. I simply said I don't understand where the thought comes that playoffs are an earned thing. Yes some states do it that way, but playoffs simply is a system of games after the regular season to decide which teams advance to play for the championship. There are multiple ways to hold a playoff. You won't hear anything positive about the all in format used by Ohio this year. There are 2 reasons for that. The first is they did not like having 6 only 6 regular season games. The second and most important is how the seeding was decided in each Region. Leaving it to coaches votes where a conference could intentionally vote other teams lower to gain homefield advantage in the later games. Like I said you can have an all in format and make regular season games have more meaning by seeding and using ability to gain homefield advantage. You can also have a earn your way in playoff, but they would have to come up with something similar to Ohio's Harbin points because Sagarin will NOT work as it doesn't account for out of state opponents.

It is not a misprint just a misinterpretation of the wording. I will explain to you and @Grandpa B from when I inquired about the Shamrock Scholar Program with the director of admissions 8 and 9 years ago when looking to send my children to Cathedral. It specifically states "Shamrock Scholar grantors choose to provide a quarter, half or full need-based tuition assistance scholarship" not "Shamrock Scholar grantors choose to provide a quarter, half or full tuition assistance scholarship". It is not for a quarter, half, or full tuition of $15,756. It is for quarter, half, or full need-based portion of tuition (or financial aid). So if a family applies for financial aid for the $15,756 and it is decided to give $8,000 in Financial Aid the donor's for the Shamrock Scholar are providing a quarter, half, or the full of that $8,000 (so $2,000, $4,000, or $8,000 just an example). Alumni and families donate in many ways to the Financial Aid funds, the amount awarded in Financial Aid is determined by an application process that comes from tax documentation. What Shamrock Scholar allows is for the donors not only to give money for Financial Aid but to be more involved than just donating money for Financial Aid and becoming a mentor for the child receiving financial aid. That is what was explained to me when I inquired while looking t send my children there. Hope that helps without the "fireworks"😆 Yes Cathedral does sponsor events at many of the deanery schools. There is a reason for that. Cathedral actually was one of the original Archdioscese High Schools and located downtown Indianapolis opening in 1918. Long before Sacred Heart was built 1930 (renamed Kennedy in 1966), Scecina 1953, Chatard 1960, Chatrand 1962, Ritter 1964, and Roncalli formed from consolidation of Chatrand and Kennedy in 1969. Those schools were being built because of overcrowding of Cathedral High School. The Archdiocese decided to close Cathedral's doors and the school was reopened by alumni who moved it to it's current location. Cathedral has long standing roots with all of the deanery schools across Indianapolis. There are many legacy alumni names from all of the deanery schools. That is why still to this day sponsor events in North, East, South, and West deanery schools. Nobody will ever deny that kids attend Cathedral from all 4 of those deanery's. And yes there have been families from West Deanery schools that have sent their kids to Roncalli and Chatard same as East Deanery, but that was the choice of those families (some of which are legacy kids that had parents that attended Roncalli or Chatard).

LCC Sectional Champ LCC Home team Regional LCC Away team South Adams Sectional Champ South Adams Home Regional South Adams Away Semi-State = Classes 2A, 4A & 6A *Regional non-host, if applicable, or lower sectional # (i.e., Sect. 1 is lower than Sect. 2) Classes A, 3A & 5A *Regional non-host, if applicable, or higher sectional # (i.e., Sect. 2 is higher than Sect. 1) Both LCC and South Adams were Away for Regionals so both were non-host. LCC is in Sectional 42 and South Adams in Sectional 43 Sectional 43 is higher than Sectional 42.

I have been seeing many mention that the Regional game (not Semi-State game) should have been played in Fort Wayne. I am assuming because people are deeming that Zionsville had a Bye in Sectionals. It actually was a forfeit not a bye and should be listed as a 2-0 Zionsville win and Zionsville was listed as the Away team while Dwenger won at home. By the brackets with Zionsville was Away and Dwenger at Home it slated the Regional as home for Zionsville. Big difference between a Bye and a Forfeit.

I guess I don't quite understand, who says you have to earn spots into playoffs? I mean I know there are pro, college, and High School states that do a playoff format that you have to earn your way in. That being said there is more than 1 playoff format: Single elimination, step ladder, double elimination, best of format, and Round Robin. As much as there is pointed at Ohio because they have a playoff you have to earn your way in, they do that because there are 700+ High Schools playing football. The numbers in Texas and California are very high too. Running an all in format wouldn't be possible without shortening the regular season (see Ohio this year 6 Reg season games). In Indiana there are about 320 football playing high schools so hosting an all in with 9 regular season games is doable. Yes I know many say it would make regular season more meaningful, but you could make it more meaningful with a seeeding process and home field advantage 2. There is not just "1" way to host a playoff. The term playoff in the dictionary doesn't specify you have to earn your way in, its simply a system of games after the regular season to decide which teams advance to play for the championship.

Because a great team isn't about stats, nor is the game of football. So if a coach see's a team loading the box with 8 players and you have the top RB in the state, do you run it or do you hit a quick pass. Likely that game what the defense was giving was running plays that were better for Daniel Weems because they were taking away the run plays that could go to Carson Steele. In jest it's not about getting a player stats its about winning the game and what plays can get you to that. As many yards as Nate McCahill had, a lot of it was reading what the defense was giving. Be is it on the Zone Read or Run pass option. McCahill had very little rush yards against Zionsville. Zionsville took that away placing focus on stopping him run. So in turn he handed to Langson who ripped off 136 yards rushing and they turned to the air more where McCahill passed for 300+.

Yes. According to Harrell the last State Championship loss for Cathedral was in 1991 losing to FW Dwenger 34-27. . I believe Coach Peebles brother Terry was QB for that Cathedral team.

Ding Ding winner winner chicken dinner. What did Carson Steel do against Indiana's #1 Defense CG? We'll never know because he never played for the mentioned teams.

He also didn't throw as many passes in the 4th qtr because they were protecting a lead and running the ball well with Jake Langdon. I just gave a better picture of the scores of those games, comp percentage, TD's and Int's. Shows a better picture of why he may have only thrown for 123 yds compared to some other QB's who were chucking it up because they were down 35.

1. Lawrence North Lost 28-13 - McCulley 16 of 27 59% Comp 274 yds 1TD 1 Int 2. Ben Davis Lost 48-13 - Swanson 15 of 27 55% Comp 207 yds 2 TD 0 Int 3. Ben Davis Lost 35-12 - Swanson 17 of 27 63% Comp 161 yds 0 TD 3 Int 4. Pike Lost 57-14 - Cialdella 16 of 32 50% comp 192 yds 1 TD 0 Int 5. Westfield Lost 38-14 Webster 16 of 28 57% Comp 155 yds 1 TD 0 Int 6. Decatur Central Lost 56-14 - Horsley 9 of 18 50% Comp 157 yds 1 TD 2 Int 7. Cathedral Lost 17-13 - McCahill 12 of 19 63% Comp 123 yds 1 TD 0 Int I put more accurate stats for you and put it more into context of which QB's were forced to throw because of the score instead of trying to run the ball at the end (Cathedral was trying to run clock in 4th qtr with a 13-10 lead). I also put what their completion percentage was and TD Int's. Note only 1 Swanson in his first meeting had a better completion percentage. Numbers make more sense in context rather than just looking at total yards.

How many of those QB's were down by multiple scores in the 2nd half and needed to throw to play catch-up and abandon the run? Did McCahill have his best game against CG? Nope. Did he have a terrible game? Nope. It was 13-10 Cathedral with the lead with 1:19 in the 4th qtr. We all know what happened from there the Irish decided to go for it and selected a play Coach Peebles admitted he wish he would have picked a different play. How many teams had Center Grove on the ropes with 1:19 left in the 4th in an eventual 17-13 loss. McCahill did nothing to lose the game had no turnovers and played well enough for them to win. By the way McCahill was 12 of 19 for 123 yds. 63 Comp % and 10.3 yds per play 1 TD 0 Int's.

In my opinion your front runners (in no particular order): Nathan McCahill (Cathedral) 227 of 333 comp/att 3,125 passing yards 0.682 comp % 223.2 pass yards per game 13.8 pass yards per comp 41 pass TD's 4 Int's 136 rush attempts 823 rush yards 6.1 yards per carry 13 TD's 3,948 total yds 54 total TD's 6.3 yards per carry 31 rushing TDs Carson Steele (Center Grove) 264 attempts 1659 rushing yards 118.5 yards per game 6.3 yards per carry 31 rushing TDs 7 receptions 152 receiving yards 2 TDs 33 Total TDs Baron Huebler (Roncalli) 328 attempts 2317 rushing yards 165.5 yards per game 7.1 yards per carry 32 rushing TDs 14 receptions 106 receiving yards 2 TDs 34 Total TDs

Yes I do think he would have the stats as long as Center Grove ran the spread offense. The stats McCahill put up were against some very solid defenses and a schedule very comparable to the MIC. Two of their opponents were MIC teams in Carmel and Center Grove. Westfield had a very good defense. Chatard had a very good Defense. Cincinnati St. Xavier and Cincinnati LaSalle both had very good defense (all 4 of LaSalle's DB's are going D-1 the best of the 4 going to Alabama). Cincinnati Elder did not have a spectacular defense but had a good offense. Penn and Brebeuf were not spectacular defenses. So yes I think McCahill would have the stats and be in the running if CG ran more of the spread offense. That being said CG being a majority Wing T offense lends itself more to Carson Steele and Cathedral's spread offense lends itself to Nate McCahill. Yes Donavan McCulley could put up the same stats for Cathedral. The reason I think he won't be in the running is because he did not make it out of sectionals. Absolutely!

I may be wrong but I believe IHSAA gets any money after Sectional's. So Reginal, Semi-State, and State. With lower ticket sales this year the IHSAA made Regionals free and Semi-State PPV so they at least made some money (deflecting lower ticket sales). For the State Championship games they were free because they have a sponsor (The Indianapolis Colts) and I believe are contracted with Fox Sports Indiana so the State Championship game was going to be free regardless. In a normal year when the IHSAA would get full ticket sales for Regionals, Semi-State, and State Finals the broadcast for all 3 would have been free.

YES! sorry I ran out of likes for the day!