Conference Indiana Remake Should Include Expansion to Lafayette/Kokomo

[Gipper]

20 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

I know. 400 people at a high school football game would be a travesty, especially at neutral site. Has disaster written all over it. 

It's right off 70, very accessible. Both schools would be losing money after costs to rent Warren Central's field with that kind of attendance. 

Thanks, I'm not too familiar with the East and South Sides.

[Staxawax]

Any neutral sight game is going to be a road game for both teams.  You've already sighted the lack of road attendance for MIC schools in a highly competitive conference.  Driving 90 minutes to see Kokomo and TH North, regardless of day and time,  would be a net loss of revenue.  It MUST always be home/away scheduling.  The home team needs the revenue as football is the only revenue producing sport/activity at the football stadium......... and that is only 4-5 times a year (plus any tournament games).

[Lysander]

1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

Kokomo fans don't tend to travel far from their home tavern.  Just saying........................

 

If I lived in Kokomo within stumbling distance of the Hugger I probably wouldn’t ever leave town.

[HoopsCoach]

No.

I like the 12 team, 2 division, week 9 crossover format if an 8 team conference is not possible.  9 or 11 teams isn’t easy to work with.  8 is best, 12 is good, 6 or 10 are ok.  Less than 6 isn’t worth having a conference.  I posted my hypothetical new HCC in one of DT’s other topics.  So let’s adapt that here.

Mid-State East:

Bloomington North, Bloomington South, Franklin, Greenwood, Perry Meridian, Whiteland

Mid-State West:

Decatur Central, Martinsville, Mooresville, Plainfield, TH North, TH South

HCC North:

Carmel, Fishers, HSE, Noblesville, Westfield, Zionsville

HCC South:

Avon, Brownsburg, Center Grove, Columbus North, Franklin Central, Southport

MIC:

Ben Davis, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, North Central, Pike, Warren Central

NCC:

Harrison, Kokomo, Lafayette Jeff, Logansport, McCutcheon, West Lafayette

*New* East Central Conference:
Anderson, Delta, Jay County, Marion, Mississinewa, Muncie Central, Richmond, Yorktown

[Guest DT]

1 hour ago, Staxawax said:

Any neutral sight game is going to be a road game for both teams.  You've already sighted the lack of road attendance for MIC schools in a highly competitive conference.  Driving 90 minutes to see Kokomo and TH North, regardless of day and time,  would be a net loss of revenue.  It MUST always be home/away scheduling.  The home team needs the revenue as football is the only revenue producing sport/activity at the football stadium......... and that is only 4-5 times a year (plus any tournament games).

The conference will subsidize neutral site games out of CI league coffers.

These neutral site games are designed more to promote the schools and the conference at large than to replace game site revenue.

 

[Guest DT]

We are working on a business plan to generate fresh revenues for the conference.  With great cities like Terre Haute, Bloomington, Columbus, Lafayette, Kokomo and Indy, how could we go wrong?

 

 

[Staxawax]

1 hour ago, DT said:

The conference will subsidize neutral site games out of CI league coffers.

These neutral site games are designed more to promote the schools and the conference at large than to replace game site revenue.

 

Only the coffers of the self proclaimed commissioner should be used for this.

[Guest DT]

1 minute ago, Staxawax said:

Only the coffers of the self proclaimed commissioner should be used for this.

😁

[HoosierFB_JG]

What is everyone’s thought on how Kentucky does it for basketball?  They break into 16 regions, all single class.  Football should never be single class, but breaking into regions and no conferences, I could get behind that.

 

Obviously though I love the MIC and don’t want to see it go away.

[Coach Nowlin]

22 hours ago, Lysander said:

If I lived in Kokomo within stumbling distance of the Hugger I probably wouldn’t ever leave town.

I turned 40 last Friday while in Kokomo

 

oh that silly Foosball game got in the way 

[Lysander]

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I turned 40 last Friday while in Kokomo

 

oh that silly Foosball game got in the way 

You’re just a baby yet coach.  Stay away from those places.  They’ll stunt your growth.

[Frozen Tundra]

On 10/16/2019 at 11:57 AM, southend said:

Hoosier Hills has had the same conference champion every year, and Columbus east would like a conference that could at least give them a challenge every few years. 

Not that CE is unhappy, and I think the CI teams welcome good competition. And I think Columbus North blocked  CE out of CI. 

Columbus North tried to get Columbus East in Conference Indiana. However, the travel to Terre Haute was a deal breaker. East tried to become the 8th member of the Mid State Conference but Perry Meridian was accepted instead. Hence, East is still in the HHC.

[Frozen Tundra]

On 10/15/2019 at 8:20 PM, DT said:

East will not be invited.  Commissioner DT makes the call on all invites.  

The CN-CE rivalry ends with this conf realignment.  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The rivalry will never end. Biggest gate of the season is the rivalry game and the city would riot if it ended. Plus, the high point of any Columbus North season is when they beat East. Why would you take that away from them?

[Frozen Tundra]

On 10/15/2019 at 8:22 PM, DT said:

East has not looked out for North's interest over the years.  It's payback time.  

Please explain. They look down on East and have mocked East for being in the "lowly" HHC.

[Guest DT]

1 hour ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Please explain. They look down on East and have mocked East for being in the "lowly" HHC.

Didnt East block North from the HHC?

1 hour ago, Frozen Tundra said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The rivalry will never end. Biggest gate of the season is the rivalry game and the city would riot if it ended. Plus, the high point of any Columbus North season is when they beat East. Why would you take that away from them?

They said the same about Nebraska-Oklahoma, Texas-A&M, Pitt - West Virginia, Penn - Mishawaka.  

[southend]

1 minute ago, DT said:

Didnt East block North from the HHC?

no

[Frozen Tundra]

4 hours ago, DT said:

Didnt East block North from the HHC?

They said the same about Nebraska-Oklahoma, Texas-A&M, Pitt - West Virginia, Penn - Mishawaka.  

I don't recall North ever wanting to be in the HHC. They prefer playing the bigger name central Indiana schools, not the southeastern Indiana schools.

[Frozen Tundra]

4 hours ago, DT said:

They said the same about Nebraska-Oklahoma, Texas-A&M, Pitt - West Virginia, Penn - Mishawaka.  

Don't compare the East/North rivalry to those others. It's not even the same. There are two football schools in Bartholomew County so there's no possible way to duck each other. Plus, they're both in the same school district and have a working relationship with each other. Nobody in the community would support an end to the rivalry because it's a huge deal when one school beats the other in a sport, especially in football. The football game is one of the biggest events in the county every year. So, in conclusion, it'll never happen. Outsiders like you have no idea.

[Guest DT]

8 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Don't compare the East/North rivalry to those others. It's not even the same. There are two football schools in Bartholomew County so there's no possible way to duck each other. Plus, they're both in the same school district and have a working relationship with each other. Nobody in the community would support an end to the rivalry because it's a huge deal when one school beats the other in a sport, especially in football. The football game is one of the biggest events in the county every year. So, in conclusion, it'll never happen. Outsiders like you have no idea.

We will leave one week open for non con to preserve your rivalry.  8 conference games and one non con.  Does that meet your needs?

[Guest DT]

Here are some non con  ideas :

 

Terre Haute South - North View

Terre Haute North  - Owen Valley

Bloomington South - Martinsville

Bloomington North - BNL

Southport - Roncalli

Columbus North - Columbus East

Kokomo - Lebanon

McCutcheon -  Lawrence Central

Lafayette Harrison - LCC

Lafayette Jefferson - West Lafayette

Your New Conference Indiana

 

[DanteEstonia]

5 hours ago, DT said:

Here are some non con  ideas :

 

Terre Haute South - North View

Terre Haute North  - Owen Valley

Bloomington South - Martinsville

Bloomington North - BNL

Southport - Roncalli

Columbus North - Columbus East

Kokomo - Lebanon

McCutcheon -  Lawrence Central

Lafayette Harrison - LCC

Lafayette Jefferson - West Lafayette

Your New Conference Indiana

 

So creative. /s

14 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Don't compare the East/North rivalry to those others. It's not even the same. There are two football schools in Bartholomew County so there's no possible way to duck each other. Plus, they're both in the same school district and have a working relationship with each other. Nobody in the community would support an end to the rivalry because it's a huge deal when one school beats the other in a sport, especially in football. The football game is one of the biggest events in the county every year. So, in conclusion, it'll never happen. Outsiders like you have no idea.

Why hasn’t BCSC put both East and North into the same conference?

[DanteEstonia]

20 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Columbus North tried to get Columbus East in Conference Indiana. However, the travel to Terre Haute was a deal breaker. East tried to become the 8th member of the Mid State Conference but Perry Meridian was accepted instead. Hence, East is still in the HHC.

Both North and East should be Mid-State schools.

[Guest DT]

23 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

So creative. /s

Why hasn’t BCSC put both East and North into the same conference?

The objective here was to preserve natural existing rivalry games.

[Frozen Tundra]

35 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

So creative. /s

Why hasn’t BCSC put both East and North into the same conference?

Not their decision. They leave it up to the schools and put their own focus on education.

[Frozen Tundra]

6 hours ago, DT said:

Here are some non con  ideas :

 

Terre Haute South - North View

Terre Haute North  - Owen Valley

Bloomington South - Martinsville

Bloomington North - BNL

Southport - Roncalli

Columbus North - Columbus East

Kokomo - Lebanon

McCutcheon -  Lawrence Central

Lafayette Harrison - LCC

Lafayette Jefferson - West Lafayette

Your New Conference Indiana

 

Of the teams you have listed, I found your new Conference Indiana. They're in bold.