Coach Nowlin Posted January 16 Posted January 16 32 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Coach, correct me if i am mistaken, aren't the Bears funding their own stadium? At least I thought the was the case for Arlington Heights. The stickler for Arlington Heights was that the state was also forcing all of the infrastructure costs onto the Bears as well unless I got that wrong. Would the Bears still plan on investing the funds for the stadium in northern Indiana or does that change? You know what is incredibly funny to me: From the last Renovation of Solider Field.... LOTS of money is still owed, but guess what.... BEARS HAVE PAID THIER CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION to it, they did their part, and JB is still whining about it and The mayor..., Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 16 Posted January 16 49 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Any stadium built in NW Indiana will become an abandoned eyesore in 30-35 years. Just like the Pontiac Silverdome was: Now that site is a Amazon warehouse and fulfillment center. Why not build something like that to begin with instead of a structure that will only be used on certain days and employ significantly more people? Purely speculation. Because it happened in Michigan, doesn't mean it has to be the case everywhere. Additionally, you don't talk about the revenue and opportunities it brought it over its life. (31 years) That region of NW Indiana needs a big time kickstart. Investing in its infrastructure may be exactly what is needed to lure other business investment into the area. Its not going to happen without some level of investment. I get its a risk....but one worth taking into an area that needs it. At the end of the day, no balls, no babies. 1 Quote
Bobref Posted January 16 Posted January 16 28 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Purely speculation. Because it happened in Michigan, doesn't mean it has to be the case everywhere. Additionally, you don't talk about the revenue and opportunities it brought it over its life. (31 years) That region of NW Indiana needs a big time kickstart. Investing in its infrastructure may be exactly what is needed to lure other business investment into the area. Its not going to happen without some level of investment. I get its a risk....but one worth taking into an area that needs it. At the end of the day, no balls, no babies. There’s no doubt the creation of the infrastructure needed to support such a project would be a real boon to an area that could use it. I’m sure this is the case with such projects everywhere, but based on my past experience, if a facility like this were planned for Gary, the number of people with their hands out (both above and under the table) would be daunting. 1 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 16 Posted January 16 This is bit different then original conversations I have seen: Quote
Bobref Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Any stadium built in NW Indiana will become an abandoned eyesore in 30-35 years. Just like the Pontiac Silverdome was: I don’t think the analogy is particularly apt. Pontiac was a suburb of a city in decay: Detroit. NWI is a suburb of Chicago, a thriving destination city. But any building can become obsolete. Who knows what amenities will become routinely available in “30-35 years.” Obsolete structures get abandoned/demolished/re-purposed all the time. 35 years is a pretty good lifespan for a structure of that sort. 2 Quote
Muda69 Posted January 16 Author Posted January 16 42 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Purely speculation. Because it happened in Michigan, doesn't mean it has to be the case everywhere. Additionally, you don't talk about the revenue and opportunities it brought it over its life. (31 years) That region of NW Indiana needs a big time kickstart. Investing in its infrastructure may be exactly what is needed to lure other business investment into the area. Its not going to happen without some level of investment. I get its a risk....but one worth taking into an area that needs it. At the end of the day, no balls, no babies. Did you ever visit the Pontiac Silverdome? I did, circa 1984. It was surrounded by a 1/4 mile wide strip of parking lots, and beyond that just more dirty, rundown warehouses and light-industrial buildings. Surely not the "entertainment mecca" the lying politicians and Ford family owners probably promoted it as. If the movers and shakers of NW Indiana want a 'kickstart' let them pay for it with 100% private investments, and leave the public out of it. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 16 Posted January 16 14 minutes ago, Bobref said: There’s no doubt the creation of the infrastructure needed to support such a project would be a real boon to an area that could use it. I’m sure this is the case with such projects everywhere, but based on my past experience, if a facility like this were planned for Gary, the number of people with their hands out (both above and under the table) would be daunting. I totally get that....no doubt. Wish that wasn't the case, but we all know how that works. I am just trying to see the "overall greater good" and think what it could mean to that area. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Did you ever visit the Pontiac Silverdome? I did, circa 1984. It was surrounded by a 1/4 mile wide strip of parking lots, and beyond that just more dirty, rundown warehouses and light-industrial buildings. Surely not the "entertainment mecca" the lying politicians and Ford family owners probably promoted it as. If the movers and shakers of NW Indiana want a 'kickstart' let them pay for it with 100% private investments, and leave the public out of it. You missed your call Muda...certainly a mega-qualified urban investment planner..... Quote
Irishman Posted January 16 Posted January 16 6 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: 1000000%. The border rivalry is REAL there and Kansas sold out BIG TIME to just stick it to the Show Me State wild Not sure when last time you went up i65 N to my neck of the woods: Last 3 years much like your area near Lebanon there has been MANY very large storage and distribution centers popping up from Lowell to Merrillville. At least 2 Amazons I think maybe 3. Data centers coming soon too 1 Quote
Bobref Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Game time conditions tomorrow: 21 degrees and 75% chance of snow. The Rams play home games in a domed stadium. Dome teams are 2-15 in the playoffs when they play outdoors and the temperature is below freezing. Just sayin’. 2 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 17 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Bobref said: Game time conditions tomorrow: 21 degrees and 75% chance of snow. The Rams play home games in a domed stadium. Dome teams are 2-15 in the playoffs when they play outdoors and the temperature is below freezing. Just sayin’. throw the wind in as well....wow!! Quote
Muda69 Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 7 hours ago, Bobref said: Game time conditions tomorrow: 21 degrees and 75% chance of snow. The Rams play home games in a domed stadium. Dome teams are 2-15 in the playoffs when they play outdoors and the temperature is below freezing. Just sayin’. I hope so. But the Rams have one the best passing game in the league this season, and the Bears pass defense absolutely stinks. Even in cold, snow, and wind Mr. Stafford and Mr. Nacua will carve the Bears to pieces. My prediction: Rams 42, Bears 21. Quote
PHJIrish Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Another nice 4th quarter Bear's comeback only to lose in OT. They needed to start the comeback sooner. Quote
Sparty Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/17/2026 at 8:06 AM, Bobref said: Game time conditions tomorrow: 21 degrees and 75% chance of snow. The Rams play home games in a domed stadium. Dome teams are 2-15 in the playoffs when they play outdoors and the temperature is below freezing. Just sayin’. Well 3-15 now, after Warsaw HS product, Harrison Mevis kicked the Rams to the NFC Championship Game. Quote
Muda69 Posted January 19 Author Posted January 19 8 hours ago, PHJIrish said: Another nice 4th quarter Bear's comeback only to lose in OT. They needed to start the comeback sooner. Actually Mr. Williams needs to stop relying on "miracle plays" and make the more routine throws. His three interceptions cost the Bears dearly in this loss. Quote
gonzoron Posted January 19 Posted January 19 9 hours ago, Sparty said: Well 3-15 now, after Warsaw HS product, Harrison Mevis kicked the Rams to the NFC Championship Game. Great job on the math. Does my heart good to see. 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Actually Mr. Williams needs to stop relying on "miracle plays" and make the more routine throws. His three interceptions cost the Bears dearly in this loss. That’s because they’re trying to mold him into something he’s not. Quote
Bobref Posted January 19 Posted January 19 26 minutes ago, gonzoron said: Great job on the math. Does my heart good to see. That’s because they’re trying to mold him into something he’s not. The interception in OT is on DJ Moore. He quit on the route. Not the first time, either. 2 Quote
Sparty Posted January 19 Posted January 19 2 hours ago, gonzoron said: Great job on the math. Does my heart good to see. That’s because they’re trying to mold him into something he’s not. You are welcome. 1 hour ago, Bobref said: The interception in OT is on DJ Moore. He quit on the route. Not the first time, either. Bingo. He was to flatten the route as 18 threw the ball to the “open” spot. Don’t know if it would have been completed, but almost guaranteed it wouldn’t have been intercepted. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 1/19/2026 at 5:53 AM, Muda69 said: Actually Mr. Williams needs to stop relying on "miracle plays" and make the more routine throws. His three interceptions cost the Bears dearly in this loss. Tell me more about what you know more than HC Ben Johnson when it comes to QB fundamentals and what works and doesn't work in the NFL? The Miracle play you refer to was because the OL missed an entire blitz package, so what did Caleb do? Only something maybe only Mahamoes or Allen can do.... but yes... it's Caleb Williams fault..... On 1/19/2026 at 7:07 AM, gonzoron said: Great job on the math. Does my heart good to see. That’s because they’re trying to mold him into something he’s not. SEE ABOVE: No idea what you are looking at, thankfully you're not in charge On 1/19/2026 at 7:34 AM, Bobref said: The interception in OT is on DJ Moore. He quit on the route. Not the first time, either. BINGO What a year: Played with house money most of the year, great year 1, now it turns into GM Poles and his staff along with Coach Johnson to build the key pieces in the next 2 years to maximize what you already did in the draft and development and signings on the offensive side of the ball. How much will the inconsistencies of EFFORT by #2 weigh into what they will do? Plenty of buzz of cutting Moore, meh, don't like that, you can convert his money to free up lots of money, same with Thuney as well and Jarrett, turn guarantee money into signing bonuses, and frees up nearly 30 million additional cap space. Then there is the theory that Crosby wants out of LV badly and is very much interested in playing in Chicago. What would that cost? D.J and a 2nd and 6th SIGN ME up: 1st and DJ I can live with: DJ and 3 picks like 1st, 5th and 2nd next year ABSOLUTELY NOT Quote
Muda69 Posted January 20 Author Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Tell me more about what you know more than HC Ben Johnson when it comes to QB fundamentals and what works and doesn't work in the NFL? As an Armchair Quarterback and Bears fan probably since before you were born I am eminently qualified to criticize Mr. William's QB fundamentals, or lack thereof. We get it Mr. Nowlin, as a high school coach you think you know more about football than anybody else here. But you don't. 1 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Nice Try You can have your opinion, you also have the opportunity to be wrong too. Which you are in this case All the NFL GREAT QBs must be able to go under center and Coach Johnson has instilled that, has worked on changing habits to be more consistent, I look for this to continue to grow into year 2. You like my boomer father also have a sports ideology that their players must be perfect in everything they do. Not the reality Don't think Caleb nor Coach Johnson is pleased with his overall completion %, how much is that on QB ? Is that fully on him? OL ? How much did the Bears pass catchers have to own in this? Any? I know at one point they were the group that led the NFL in Pass Catch drops.... but yes, CW18.... has to be him..... SO: I will ask you again, give me some specifics Muda, armchair coach, what would YOU do differently to coach Caleb Williams. What drills? What schemes to maximize YOUR fundamentals that you want Caleb to achieve that coach Johnson his staff do not already for your liking? Give me some specifics, but you will probably coward behind some lame ole classic Muda Answer full of sarcasm as you just proven in your last post. Do not be mad that Bears were in a game you predicted they lose by double digits..... I do have 23 years of studying the game of football, going to clinics, hosted by NFL teams, listening to College coaches all across the country, so yes, I think that provides me more detail of what I am looking at versus others.... didn't say I was smarter, just I have more real life applicable experience then you. Just like I don't venture into IT world that you dominate as your profession...... maybe I should just throw out baseless claims in that lane ..... and pretend I am an armchair IT guru who can offer up opinions too Quote
Muda69 Posted January 20 Author Posted January 20 41 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: You can have your opinion, you also have the opportunity to be wrong too. And I have never said anything to the contrary. 41 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Which you are in this case If your opinion says so. 42 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: All the NFL GREAT QBs must be able to go under center and Coach Johnson has instilled that, has worked on changing habits to be more consistent, I look for this to continue to grow into year 2. You like my boomer father also have a sports ideology that their players must be perfect in everything they do. Not the reality I'm not a baby boomer. Nice try. 43 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Don't think Caleb nor Coach Johnson is pleased with his overall completion %, how much is that on QB ? Is that fully on him? OL ? How much did the Bears pass catchers have to own in this? Any? I know at one point they were the group that led the NFL in Pass Catch drops.... but yes, CW18.... has to be him..... So now you are saying Mr. Williams's abysmal (for an NFL starting QB) completion % is not really all that much his fault. Got it. I believe at least 75% of an NFL QB's completion percentage is "on him". Sounds like you are being somewhat of a William's apologist here. 47 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: SO: I will ask you again, give me some specifics Muda, armchair coach, what would YOU do differently to coach Caleb Williams. What drills? What schemes to maximize YOUR fundamentals that you want Caleb to achieve that coach Johnson his staff do not already for your liking? Give me some specifics, but you will probably coward behind some lame ole classic Muda Answer full of sarcasm as you just proven in your last post. Do not be mad that Bears were in a game you predicted they lose by double digits..... I never said I was an armchair coach. You appear to be the one that is mad, not I. I can just see that vein in the middle of your voluminous forehead bulging with rage. Please, go for a hike in nature or something. Maybe take up bird watching. It will reduce your apparent stress, I promise. 51 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: I do have 23 years of studying the game of football, going to clinics, hosted by NFL teams, listening to College coaches all across the country, so yes, I think that provides me more detail of what I am looking at versus others.... didn't say I was smarter, just I have more real life applicable experience then you. Just like I don't venture into IT world that you dominate as your profession...... maybe I should just throw out baseless claims in that lane ..... and pretend I am an armchair IT guru who can offer up opinions too So how many years are you been coaching in the NFL ranks? Quote
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