Bobref Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 1 hour ago, temptation said: Now, if he could just figure out that “don’t lose games in September” part. Queue the outrage in 3-2-1… I’d say he’s done awfully well, looking at the body of work. Anyone who had greater expectations than what he’s achieved was unrealistic. 2 Quote
temptation Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 2 hours ago, Bobref said: I’d say he’s done awfully well, looking at the body of work. Anyone who had greater expectations than what he’s achieved was unrealistic. Beating Marshall, Stanford and Northern Illinois is unrealistic? Quote
Bobref Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 33 minutes ago, temptation said: Beating Marshall, Stanford and Northern Illinois is unrealistic? As I said, the body of work. He’s 38-12 in his first head coaching job, including an appearance in the championship game, has taken their recruiting to a new level, and is a credit to the University. I’m well satisfied with what he’s done and what he’s become. And I think his best days are in front of him. If he stays at Notre Dame, I really believe one day he’ll be mentioned in the same breath as Leahy, Parseghian, and Holtz. 2 Quote
Komets2727 Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Bobref said: As I said, the body of work. He’s 38-12 in his first head coaching job, including an appearance in the championship game, has taken their recruiting to a new level, and is a credit to the University. I’m well satisfied with what he’s done and what he’s become. And I think his best days are in front of him. If he stays at Notre Dame, I really believe one day he’ll be mentioned in the same breath as Leahy, Parseghian, and Holtz. Cmon now, that is a bit of a reach. Those coaches had a very uneven playing field that was top loaded with 10-15 each year that were really good and a bunch of mediocrity behind that. Big 12 was Oklahoma and Nebraska and jack crap, Big 10 was Ohio State and Michigan and the little 8, PAC 10 was UCLA and USC for a while, SEC was Alabama, Florida and the rest were just there. With NIL, Indiana and Vanderbilt are legitimate teams, unlike the past 80 years. Point being, the Irish will get tired of not winning a title and will run Freeman out of town… Edited October 29, 2025 by Komets2727 1 Quote
temptation Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 10 minutes ago, Bobref said: As I said, the body of work. He’s 38-12 in his first head coaching job, including an appearance in the championship game, has taken their recruiting to a new level, and is a credit to the University. I’m well satisfied with what he’s done and what he’s become. And I think his best days are in front of him. If he stays at Notre Dame, I really believe one day he’ll be mentioned in the same breath as Leahy, Parseghian, and Holtz. Wild. Through 50 Games @ ND: Leahy: 42-3-4 (won titles in years 1/2/4) Ara: 40-7-3 (won a title in year 3) Holtz: 39-11 (but won a title in year 3) Freeman: 38-12 All-Time Winning Percentage at ND: Leahy: .888 Ara: .848 Holtz: .769 Freeman: .760 And some folks still wonder why the delusion of Notre Dame fans is hysterical, lol. More Dan Devine/Brian Kelly than the three mentioned. Quote
23andCounting Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 @temptation Why would LSU, Florida, and Penn State all come calling if Freeman wasn't considered one of the five best coaches in the country? Are those three programs just that stupid? @Komets2727 Freeman isn't getting run out of town anytime soon. In fact, I think he'll have a national title within the next three years. Could happen this year. 1 Quote
Komets2727 Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: @temptation Why would LSU, Florida, and Penn State all come calling if Freeman wasn't considered one of the five best coaches in the country? Are those three programs just that stupid? @Komets2727 Freeman isn't getting run out of town anytime soon. In fact, I think he'll have a national title within the next three years. Could happen this year. ND isn’t winning a natty this year, you can take that to the bank. Best win is USC. Not sure they are even making it. I got their odds of even making the CFP at less than 50% Edited October 29, 2025 by Komets2727 1 1 Quote
temptation Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 10 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: @temptation Why would LSU, Florida, and Penn State all come calling if Freeman wasn't considered one of the five best coaches in the country? Are those three programs just that stupid? @Komets2727 Freeman isn't getting run out of town anytime soon. In fact, I think he'll have a national title within the next three years. Could happen this year. He’s pretty good, not gonna lie but that was not the statement made. I’d call his resume “incomplete” at this stage. Potential? Sure. But let’s pump the brakes. Quote
23andCounting Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 2 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: ND isn’t winning a natty this year, you can take that to the bank. Best win is USC. Not sure they are even making it. I got their odds of even making the CFP at less than 50% Might as well get used to the fact that ND, barring a massive upset, WILL be going to the playoffs. That's a fact. Will they win the natty? I've got Ohio State, Indiana, and A&M ahead of them right now, so more than likely not. I wouldn't be surprised though if they did. Not sure why were even having this conversation. They guy took ND to the natty last year, and quite frankly would have won had they not been so banged up. Quote
23andCounting Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 2 minutes ago, temptation said: He’s pretty good, not gonna lie but that was not the statement made. I’d call his resume “incomplete” at this stage. Potential? Sure. But let’s pump the brakes. I agree that it's pre-mature to put him in the same sentence as Leahy, Parseghian, and Holtz. Way pre-mature. 1 Quote
temptation Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 11 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: Might as well get used to the fact that ND, barring a massive upset, WILL be going to the playoffs. That's a fact. Will they win the natty? I've got Ohio State, Indiana, and A&M ahead of them right now, so more than likely not. I wouldn't be surprised though if they did. Not sure why we’re even having this conversation. The guy took ND to the natty last year, and quite frankly would have won had they not been so banged up. ND should be in the playoffs annually in the current format…particularly with their schedule in the coming years. No CCG for the time being and will be favored in 9-10 games every season with a half dozen layups. Quote
23andCounting Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 5 minutes ago, temptation said: ND should be in the playoffs annually in the current format…particularly with their schedule in the coming years. No CCG for the time being and will be favored in 9-10 games every season with a half dozen layups. Fair, but they still have to earn it. Style points. Quote
temptation Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 Chip Kelly: 44-6 through 50 at Oregon… Uncle Ed: 40-10 through 50 at LSU… Brian Kelly: 34-14 through 48 at LSU… Bobby Petrino: 41-9 through 50 at Louisville… Les Miles: 41-9 through 50 at LSU… And the argument could be made that all of the above played tougher schedules than Freeman does. Not hating on the guy but let’s slow down a bit here. After all, @Bobref did once coin a guy who ended up winning a national championship in LACROSSE who also was responsible for botching the hold in the eventual game deciding extra point missed against A&M earlier this year “The Chosen One” before he ever played a snap. He’s not to be taken seriously but I am betting married the first girl he dated. Quote
temptation Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 9 minutes ago, Bobref said: Can I generate content, or what? You are in the same breath as Charlie Weis…or maybe George O’Leary… Quote
PHJIrish Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 2 hours ago, temptation said: Wild. Through 50 Games @ ND: Leahy: 42-3-4 (won titles in years 1/2/4) Ara: 40-7-3 (won a title in year 3) Holtz: 39-11 (but won a title in year 3) Freeman: 38-12 All-Time Winning Percentage at ND: Leahy: .888 Ara: .848 Holtz: .769 Freeman: .760 And some folks still wonder why the delusion of Notre Dame fans is hysterical, lol. More Dan Devine/Brian Kelly than the three mentioned. The Irish beat IU, Georgia and Penn State in the CFP's last season. I see that as somewhat impressive.😉 1 Quote
temptation Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 57 minutes ago, PHJIrish said: The Irish beat IU, Georgia and Penn State in the CFP's last season. I see that as somewhat impressive.😉 A first year coach, a backup QB, and James Franklin… Then got crushed by Michigan’s son, Ryan Day. 1 Quote
gonzoron Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 3 hours ago, Bobref said: Can I generate content, or what? It's what us Boosters do. Quote
GOLDRUSH1985 Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 6 hours ago, temptation said: A first year coach, a backup QB, and James Franklin… Then got crushed by Michigan’s son, Ryan Day. Thinking Day will happily be Michigans son if he wins the Natty every year. 1 Quote
GOLDRUSH1985 Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 6 hours ago, temptation said: A first year coach, a backup QB, and James Franklin… Then got crushed by Michigan’s son, Ryan Day. All of ND’s injuries easily trump everything you listed, 34-23 is not crushed. What USC did to Michigan is crushed. 2 Quote
temptation Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said: Thinking Day will happily be Michigans son if he wins the Natty every year. The fans in CoLLLLumbus disagree… The moving truck was ready last year… Dude’s family is still being harassed. 1 hour ago, GOLDRUSH1985 said: All of ND’s injuries easily trump everything you listed, 34-23 is not crushed. What USC did to Michigan is crushed. 34-23 was the final score, yes. But OSU was in control the whole time. Not everyone can beat OSU, I get it. Edited October 30, 2025 by temptation Quote
GOLDRUSH1985 Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 46 minutes ago, temptation said: The fans in CoLLLLumbus disagree… The moving truck was ready last year… Dude’s family is still being harassed. 34-23 was the final score, yes. But OSU was in control the whole time. Not everyone can beat OSU, I get it. The moving truck was ready last year until he won the Natty . Natty more important than beating your rival . Heck ,I would love to lose to Michigan and USC every year as long as we win the big prize . Quote
GOLDRUSH1985 Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 59 minutes ago, temptation said: The fans in CoLLLLumbus disagree… The moving truck was ready last year… Dude’s family is still being harassed. 34-23 was the final score, yes. But OSU was in control the whole time. Not everyone can beat OSU, I get it. A one score game with 4 minutes to play is not crushed or in complete control . OSU kicked a field goal with 20 seconds remaining to make it a 2 score game . 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, temptation said: Not everyone can beat OSU, I get it. Congratulations on being a fan celebrating a big win amongst a 7-5 regular season and 7th place in the conference. Edited October 30, 2025 by Bash Riprock 1 Quote
temptation Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 13 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Congratulations on being a fan celebrating a big win amongst a 7-5 regular season and 7th place in the conference. I mean the worst Michigan team in a decade took care of a team that neither Indiana nor Notre Dame could beat… Now do Bama… Not bad for a rebuilding year. Quote
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