23andCounting Posted February 26 Posted February 26 12 minutes ago, Bobref said: USC has found a replacement for Notre Dame, after deserting one of the great rivalries in college football. They will play San Jose St. Last season the Spartans ranked #144 in Sagarin’s final rankings after finishing 3-9. In the last 5 seasons the Spartans are 29-33, and are members of the Mountain West Conference. Since it’s USC, my expectations were low to begin with. But still, the Trojans managed to fall short. USC knows they are good for two losses in the Big Ten. They were seeking a guaranteed win rather than a 75% chance loss. Two losses gets them into the playoff, a loss against Notre Dame puts them out. Quote
Bobref Posted February 26 Posted February 26 9 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: USC knows they are good for two losses in the Big Ten. They were seeking a guaranteed win rather than a 75% chance loss. Two losses gets them into the playoff, a loss against Notre Dame puts them out. Oh, I understand the reasoning. It’s one of the unintended consequences of the 12 team playoff format. 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 26 Posted February 26 3 hours ago, Bobref said: USC has found a replacement for Notre Dame, after deserting one of the great rivalries in college football. They will play San Jose St. Last season the Spartans ranked #144 in Sagarin’s final rankings after finishing 3-9. In the last 5 seasons the Spartans are 29-33, and are members of the Mountain West Conference. Since it’s USC, my expectations were low to begin with. But still, the Trojans managed to fall short. That wasn't just USC...that goes on both schools. Completely understand why USC didn't want to play ND late in the season. They offered up week 1. ND said no. Let's be fair with that statement. Quote
23andCounting Posted February 26 Posted February 26 25 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: That wasn't just USC...that goes on both schools. Completely understand why USC didn't want to play ND late in the season. They offered up week 1. ND said no. Let's be fair with that statement. USC knew that Week 1 was a "hard no" for Notre Dame. It was an easy out for them and a way for them to make Notre Dame the bad guy. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 26 Posted February 26 2 hours ago, 23andCounting said: USC knew that Week 1 was a "hard no" for Notre Dame. It was an easy out for them and a way for them to make Notre Dame the bad guy. ??? Why? Do you have connections to the AD's office with scheduling? I can same the exact same for ND pushing a late in the season game to fit their needs, knowing USC after playing a long Big 10 season would never go for it. Bottom line, both schools wouldn't compromise and they both have ownership in the series falling apart. Quote
23andCounting Posted February 26 Posted February 26 8 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: ??? Why? Do you have connections to the AD's office with scheduling? I can same the exact same for ND pushing a late in the season game to fit their needs, knowing USC after playing a long Big 10 season would never go for it. Bottom line, both schools wouldn't compromise and they both have ownership in the series falling apart. C'mon. USC wanted out for the exact reason I stated. They knew ND wouldn't go for it. No connections with the AD, just an opinion that that I'm 80% sold on. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 26 Posted February 26 1 hour ago, 23andCounting said: C'mon. USC wanted out for the exact reason I stated. They knew ND wouldn't go for it. No connections with the AD, just an opinion that that I'm 80% sold on. No different than ND knowing USC would not go for the game late in the season...not to mention Big 10 schedules are fixed. Why in the world would USC use their bye week in the Big 10 to play ND late in the season? Both teams wouldn't budge....we shall see if ND feels that can continue to set terms with scheduling as an independent. Less and less teams see any reason to play them. Teams that are open to playing ND have their non-conference games typically before conference begins. Quote
Sparty Posted February 26 Posted February 26 ND needed them more due to their unwillingness to join a conference. They need these “premier” games to help their resume. Quote
23andCounting Posted February 26 Posted February 26 36 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: No different than ND knowing USC would not go for the game late in the season...not to mention Big 10 schedules are fixed. Why in the world would USC use their bye week in the Big 10 to play ND late in the season? Both teams wouldn't budge....we shall see if ND feels that can continue to set terms with scheduling as an independent. Less and less teams see any reason to play them. Teams that are open to playing ND have their non-conference games typically before conference begins. I know you think you're being objective, but when the subject of Notre Dame pops up, you seem to ALWAYS play the devil's advocate with your "second" team. You don't do that with IU at all. Massive difference between first and second I guess. Quote
23andCounting Posted February 26 Posted February 26 I just looked at USC's upcoming schedule, it's no wonder they wanted out more than Notre Dame did. In their defense, it's pretty brutal. I would have ditched Notre Dame too if I was USC's AD. Quote
PDB26 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 58 minutes ago, Sparty said: ND needed them more due to their unwillingness to join a conference. They need these “premier” games to help their resume. Neither team needs the other right now, which is why both teams were able to walk away. The relationship would carry more risk for SC in many years while not playing exposes ND to more risk should they lose more than once. Big 12 and ACC membership doesn’t confer much of a benefit except in years where the conference champions get a bid, which puts ND basically in the same position as all of those programs. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted February 27 Posted February 27 1 hour ago, 23andCounting said: I know you think you're being objective, but when the subject of Notre Dame pops up, you seem to ALWAYS play the devil's advocate with your "second" team. You don't do that with IU at all. Massive difference between first and second I guess. You are a ND fan with green eyes and you are biased. I’m saying BOTH teams share in this series falling apart. Your bias prevents ND from having any accountability…any ownership. It’s not factual Quote
23andCounting Posted February 27 Posted February 27 13 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: You are a ND fan with green eyes and you are biased. I’m saying BOTH teams share in this series falling apart. Your bias prevents ND from having any accountability…any ownership. It’s not factual Never said my opinion was factual, 80% confident I think is what I said. At the end of the day, USC's goal is to make the playoffs and Notre Dame is standing in the way of that. They can't afford to lose to Notre Dame with Oregon, Penn State, Ohio State, and Indiana on their schedule. It was an easy decision for them to let the series go. Notre Dame on the other hand is in the 2026 playoffs with or without the Trojans on their schedule. So I'd agree with @PDB26 that neither teams need one another right now. I just find it funny that some refuse to see the USC situation for what it really is. Quote
Sparty Posted February 27 Posted February 27 15 hours ago, PDB26 said: Neither team needs the other right now, which is why both teams were able to walk away. The relationship would carry more risk for SC in many years while not playing exposes ND to more risk should they lose more than once. Big 12 and ACC membership doesn’t confer much of a benefit except in years where the conference champions get a bid, which puts ND basically in the same position as all of those programs. ND’s upcoming schedule is garbage. Laughable if you will. Quote
PDB26 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 7 hours ago, Sparty said: ND’s upcoming schedule is garbage. Laughable if you will. Granted, but it's not much different than a lot of ACC and Big 12 schedules, nor is it all that different from some Big Ten schedules––Penn State comes to mind. SC could easily have five losses going into week 12, and it's possible that BYU is the better team head to head. Under the current circumstances of bloated conferences and, likely, an ever-expanding playoff, the most ND needs from SC is to fill a week on the schedule. Notre Dame needs to be 11-1 or 12-0 to get into the playoff which isn't all that dissimilar from previous formats. I think college football needs games like ND vs. SC more than either of these two need the game and both programs choosing to walk away from the rivalry demonstrates that clearly. 1 Quote
23andCounting Posted February 28 Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: Impressive 11 hours ago, Sparty said: ND’s upcoming schedule is garbage. Laughable if you will. As I said in another post..........Notre Dame will win every game next season by double digits and finish as the #1 team in the country unless we have an undefeated team from the Big Ten or SEC. To be fair though. Wisconsin and Michigan State were good football teams when they scheduled them. Stanford was one of the best programs in the country............although I'm starting to think that series needs to go. The rest of it is the deal they have with the ACC. I think it time we stop talking about how weak Notre Dame's schedule is and start talking about how Notre Dame will match up with their counterparts in the 12-team playoff. Quote
JustRules Posted February 28 Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Irishman said: I agree Coach I agree with each of these as well. Works well for FCS, D2, D3, and NAIA. Plus they can be done before the NFL Playoffs start instead of competing for attention. It also reduces the number of players who feel pressured to opt out in order to transfer before the new semester starts. 2 Quote
Irishman Posted March 2 Author Posted March 2 Sad news out of Boulder.....prayers for his family, friends, and teammates. 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted March 2 Posted March 2 Surprises with this list? It’s from a poll Josh Pate ran a few days ago…not at all stating scientific Quote
Bobref Posted March 2 Posted March 2 6 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: Surprises with this list? It’s from a poll Josh Pate ran a few days ago…not at all stating scientific “They hate us … ‘cause they ain’t us.” 😂🤣😅 1 Quote
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