temptation Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) It is well publicized and there are many theories surrounding speed/athleticism as it relates to genetics. I'll spare you the research and statistics as your search engine is more than capable. I vaguely remember a "city speed" vs "county speed" debate that thrived on this message board for years and became an amusing talking point. Not sure what specifically was "out of bounds" about the locked threads and why we cannot have a civil discussion and remain respectful of one another. I will not be announcing my departure anytime soon like DT, but somebody has to carry the water. Let's have a civil discourse surrounding "genetics" as it relates to speed/athleticism without anyone pretending to get offended. I'll start. Why do those of East African descent dominate distance running? Why do those of West African descent dominate the 100/200 sprinting events at the World Championships/Olympics? Now, let's look at football...go. Edited January 27, 2021 by temptation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, temptation said: It is well publicized and there are many theories surrounding speed/athleticism as it relates to genetics. I'll spare you the research and statistics as your search engine is more than capable. I vaguely remember a "city speed" vs "county speed" debate that thrived on this message board for years and became an amusing talking point. Not sure what specifically was "out of bounds" about the locked threads and why we cannot have a civil discussion and remain respectful of one another. I will not be announcing my departure anytime soon like DT, but somebody has to carry the water. Let's have a civil discourse surrounding "genetics" as it relates to speed/athleticism without anyone pretending to get offended. I'll start. Why do those of East African descent dominate distance running? Why do those of West African descent dominate the 100/200 sprinting events at the World Championships/Olympics? Now, let's look at football...go. I thought I read something at some point that in east africa, they develop tremendous long distance lung capacity because they have to run long distances to collect and deliver water for their families. In the west, they develop great speed because they are running for their lives to escape from predators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 THis had nothing to do with Indiana High school football, schools or players. So it goes here.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 59 minutes ago, temptation said: Why do those of East African descent dominate distance running? Why do those of West African descent dominate the 100/200 sprinting events at the World Championships/Olympics? Can you cite some data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, DanteEstonia said: Can you cite some data? Why sure. Ethiopian/Kenyan distance runners hold over 90 percent of all middle/long distance world records. The last 25 world record holders in the 100 meter dash have been black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, temptation said: Why sure. Ethiopian/Kenyan distance runners hold over 90 percent of all middle/long distance world records. The last 25 world record holders in the 100 meter dash have been black. share a link, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, DanteEstonia said: share a link, please. You can do your own homework. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, temptation said: You can do your own homework. the burden of proof is on he who accuses, not he who denies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said: the burden of proof is on he who accuses, not he who denies. You really need a link sent to you to verify that the last 25 record holders are black? C'mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, BTF said: You really need a link sent to you to verify that the last 25 record holders are black? C'mon He's looking for a fight. Don't engage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 32 minutes ago, BTF said: You really need a link sent to you to verify that the last 25 record holders are black? C'mon Yes I do. 13 minutes ago, temptation said: He's looking for a fight. Don't engage. Nope, I'm looking for empirical data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said: Yes I do. Nope, I'm looking for empirical data. I'll bite. Data point #1: https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/men/senior 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarab527 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I remember reading that East Africans dominate distance running because most are born at a higher altitude and are descended from peoples who have lived at higher altitudes for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. This gives them naturally higher levels of oxygen in their blood. More oxygen in blood= better performance in distance events (think of blood doping in cycling). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, scarab527 said: I remember reading that East Africans dominate distance running because most are born at a higher altitude and are descended from peoples who have lived at higher altitudes for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. This gives them naturally higher levels of oxygen in their blood. More oxygen in blood= better performance in distance events (think of blood doping in cycling). GREAT response. Thanks for your civil contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 5000 meters, a mid-level distance event. https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/middle-long/5000-metres/outdoor/men/senior?regionType=world&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2021-01-26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, scarab527 said: I remember reading that East Africans dominate distance running because most are born at a higher altitude and are descended from peoples who have lived at higher altitudes for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. This gives them naturally higher levels of oxygen in their blood. More oxygen in blood= better performance in distance events (think of blood doping in cycling). So some of what the late Jimmy the Greek said was true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarab527 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: So some of what the late Jimmy the Greek said was true? No clue how you drew that conclusion from my comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, scarab527 said: No clue how you drew that conclusion from my comment. Easy. Your comment: 8 hours ago, scarab527 said: I remember reading that East Africans dominate distance running because most are born at a higher altitude and are descended from peoples who have lived at higher altitudes for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. This gives them naturally higher levels of oxygen in their blood. More oxygen in blood= better performance in distance events (think of blood doping in cycling). Mr. Snyder's infamous comment from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Snyder_(sports_commentator): Quote The black is a better athlete to begin with, because he's been bred to be that way. Because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back. And they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. And he's bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War, when, during the slave trading, the big, the owner, the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have uh big black kid, see. That's where it all started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Yeahbut, Jimmy the Greek's statement sounds more racist, cause....Slaves and Civil War and stuff......Wait - Doesn't the term "Jimmy the Greek" sound racist? WAIT - IS MUDA RACIST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarab527 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 8:29 PM, Muda69 said: Easy. Your comment: Mr. Snyder's infamous comment from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Snyder_(sports_commentator): Again, how is my comment in anyway related to Jimmy the Greek’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 50 minutes ago, scarab527 said: Again, how is my comment in anyway related to Jimmy the Greek’s? I showed you. And no, snowflake, I am not comparing you to Mr. Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarab527 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, Muda69 said: I showed you. And no, snowflake, I am not comparing you to Mr. Snyder. Lmao god you are dumber than a box of rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 21 hours ago, scarab527 said: Lmao god you are dumber than a box of rocks. Not really, but you just go on thinking that Chief if you believe it makes you superior. Now please try to stay on topic, ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarab527 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Not really, but you just go on thinking that Chief if you believe it makes you superior. Now please try to stay on topic, ok? Lol I was the one adding to the discussion. You were the one who derailed it with completely unrelated things and then attacked me for no reason. I’m not wasting any more of my time on a pathetic simpleton like you. Edited January 31, 2021 by scarab527 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 8:37 PM, scarab527 said: You were the one who derailed it with completely unrelated things and then attacked me for no reason. I’m not wasting any more of my time on a pathetic simpleton like you. I did neither of those things, merely pointed out a simple connection. You are the one, sir, who got all butthurt about and then resorted to calling me names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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