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18 minutes ago, swordfish said:

Where in his tweet did he actually "suggest" he would have this authority?

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Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???

 

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The Sad Cult of Esoteric Trumpism

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/07/the-sad-cult-of-esoteric-trumpism/

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With his poll numbers sagging in a campaign season circumscribed by the coronavirus, it’s easy to forget how intoxicating Donald Trump’s political rise was to certain people. In 2015 and 2016, Trump broke many of the unwritten rules about where and how a candidate campaigns, and what a candidate can say and do. Normal candidates and the bulk of the media, even the conservative media, treated his campaign as a joke every step of the way. 

 

As he continued to rise, he exposed the weakness of the norms that had built up around American presidential campaigns over decades. He proved that you could succeed while insulting the media and all the recent nominees and presidents of the party you were running to lead, attacking veterans and the war-wounded, and questioning a federal judge’s decision based on his ethnicity. He proved that you didn’t need a stump speech that had been worked on by 30 consultants; you could just riff and test slogans and catchphrases live on CNN. He defied the laws of political physics and paid no price for it. Depending on if you were a supporter or an opponent, he inspired excitement or dread that anything might happen next.

It’s no wonder than that Trump consistently attracted coalitions of people who felt excluded by the political status quo. Some of those people were just oddballs and cranks. Some of them were extremists or haters. They produced elaborate theories about why Trump’s movement was larger than one man, why it was a hinge moment in history. For those driven mad by America’s foreign policy and spying, Trump was an implacable foe of “the blob” and the Deep State. For people looking for a sign from heaven, Trump was a potential new Constantine. For others he was an escape from hundreds of years of misbegotten liberal theories of politics. For racists, he was a harbinger of white-identitarianism on the march worth a Sieg Heil or two.

These were the esoteric cases for Trumpism, and they’ve run aground on the beach of Trump’s actual presidency.

As he approaches the end of his first and maybe only term, Trump has changed very little about America’s foreign policy. He’s shifted some troops and materiel from NATO and domestic attitudes toward China have grown more hawkish on his watch. But the latter development was mostly a result of Chinese malfeasance and may have happened without him.

The racists no longer care about Trump. They wanted his campaign to be the beginning of larger and larger escalations of white hostility. But the demographic trajectory of the country is unchanged from before. Trump lost interest in a big beautiful wall, and his erstwhile white-nationalist fans now despise Trump. The religious dreamers have to contend with a Trumpified Supreme Court whose idea of textual interpretation holds out the Lyndon Baines Johnson administration as the champion of transgender rights in employment. They hoped Trump would be a tool of God who made the whole nation Christian; instead, he may very well make the Republican Party more secular.

In retrospect, it seems ridiculous that anyone put their faith in a president as weak as Trump, who can’t even turn infrastructure week into infrastructure projects, to alter the course of history. And many of those who did have recognized as much, and moved on to other pursuits or grudges. But for those leftover, esoteric Trumpism has degenerated from the speculative and crankish to the outright quackery of the QAnon conspiracy theory, which in an odd way tackles the problem of Trump’s weakness head-on. The basic theory is that down is up, stupid is smart, and weakness is strength. The president may look like someone who doesn’t control his mouth or the White House, but QAnon have an answer for that: He’s actually deliberate, purposeful, even masterful in exposing and stopping the corrupt ring of pedophiles, Deep Staters, and other malefactors that controls the world.

I don’t want to make light of this, exactly. Though conspiracy theories are often pursued by their enthusiasts as a harmless distraction and escape from real life, they can be dangerous, occasionally addling minds in a way that leads a man to, say, take a rifle into a pizza shop. But there’s something sad about QAnon followers, too: Those who have clung to a stubborn faith in Trump look set to soon find that he has abandoned them in a world he hardly changed — a world said faith has led them to believe is run with impunity by an omnipotent, ultra-competent cabal of kiddie-diddlers.

Then again, that’s the pattern of cults, isn’t it? A revelation of truth from on high will set you free; a Gnostic secret, known only to adepts, will make the world into a prison.

 

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49 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???

So the 3 question marks following that comment mean nothing?

I saw that and my first thought was he was baiting the democrats......I guess I was right........Now it has become "Trump is so stupid he thinks he has the authority to change the election date, SEE - he even said so!!"

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15 hours ago, swordfish said:

I saw that and my first thought was he was baiting the democrats......I guess I was right........

I am not a Democrat.  I haven't voted for a uni-party candidate in over three decades, and probably never will again.

That said, I also don't believe Mr. Trump is a good president, nor he is qualified to be POTUS for another term.

15 hours ago, swordfish said:

So the 3 question marks following that comment mean nothing?

No, they possibly mean Mr. Trump would support an effort to delay the 2020 presidential election until, in his words, " people can properly, securely, and safely vote". 

Would you support such an effort, swordfish?  Do you believe that currently people cannot properly, securely, and safely vote?

And if the election would miraculously somehow be delayed who would then make the call that the people can now "properly, securely, and safely" vote?  I bet Mr. Trump believes that decision resides in the executive branch of the federal government..............

 

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2 hours ago, Muda69 said:

I am not a Democrat.  I haven't voted for a uni-party candidate in over three decades, and probably never will again.  And that is your right. 

That said, I also don't believe Mr. Trump is a good president, nor he is qualified to be POTUS for another term.  In your opinion.

No, they possibly mean Mr. Trump would support an effort to delay the 2020 presidential election until, in his words, " people can properly, securely, and safely vote".  "Possibly?" = your opinion?

Would you support such an effort, swordfish?  Do you believe that currently people cannot properly, securely, and safely vote?

And if the election would miraculously somehow be delayed who would then make the call that the people can now "properly, securely, and safely" vote?  I bet Mr. Trump believes that decision resides in the executive branch of the federal government..............

 

NO.  And neither would the President.  (IMHO)  And there is no "effort" to do such a thing.  As I said - baiting the Dems who think it is so unsafe for the public to leave their homes.....  (IMHO)

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On 7/30/2020 at 4:33 PM, swordfish said:

So the 3 question marks following that comment mean nothing?

I saw that and my first thought was he was baiting the democrats......I guess I was right........Now it has become "Trump is so stupid he thinks he has the authority to change the election date, SEE - he even said so!!"

He is that stupid.

2 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

Y'all got what you voted for. 

Yep. It's a cult and the ignorant folks like DE, TD and SF are caught like a fish. 

They totally would have been in love with Hitler in the early 30s. 

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On 8/1/2020 at 7:53 PM, TheStatGuy said:

He is that stupid.

Yep. It's a cult and the ignorant folks like DE, TD and SF are caught like a fish. 

They totally would have been in love with Hitler in the early 30s. 

In your humble opinion......

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23 minutes ago, swordfish said:

In your humble opinion......

Nope. If you were easily duped by a moron like Trump. You would have been head over heels about Hitler.  

Trade Jews with Muslims/Hispanics

Trade German gov before hitler rose to power and replace it with our government from 08-16.

Almost identical. Can't deny it. 

Strike 3. You are out. 

You are almost as easy as Temptation. 

 

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14 minutes ago, TheStatGuy said:

Nope. If you were easily duped by a moron like Trump. You would have been head over heels about Hitler.  

Trade Jews with Muslims/Hispanics

 

And you don't know the first rule about internet forum debate.  The first one to play the Hitler Card loses.  No exceptions.

Besides, can you please tell me where Mr. Trump has initiated a program to mass exterminate Muslims and Hispanics?

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

And you don't know the first rule about internet forum debate.  The first one to play the Hitler Card loses.  No exceptions.

Besides, can you please tell me where Mr. Trump has initiated a program to mass exterminate Muslims and Hispanics?

 

 

Don't hold your breath Muda......

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