HNAC Expansion Talk

[Punttheball]

1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

Why not?  

Southwood and Northfield don't want to merge! Heck they already bought land to do it and then voted it down.  And nobody wants to merge with Wabash! This just isn't happening.  

[FarmerFran]

5 minutes ago, Gap Down Backer said:

 I agree- schools need to do what they think is best for their situation- and for all sports- be interesting to see if Knox and Laville break off who will still play them from the HNAC or if they'll just wash their hands of them.  Finding football games is a nightmare when you have open dates that need filled.  

No doubt. North White chooses to take a bye week 5 instead of playing Pioneer anymore, so we've played Hammond Central (2-3 hour drive depending on traffic) and Indy Attucks the last several years.

[Julio]

I think the GSSC has openings.

[Muda69]

54 minutes ago, Punttheball said:

 And nobody wants to merge with Wabash! This just isn't happening.  

Why not?  Sounds like socioeconomic "reasons".

 

Edited March 9, 2023 by Muda69

[Punttheball]

10 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Why not?  Sounds like socioeconomic "reasons".

 

Nah!! It is just a case of Southwood and Northfield want to keep their identity and nobody likes Wabash.

[Muda69]

1 hour ago, Punttheball said:

Nah!! It is just a case of Southwood and Northfield want to keep their identity and nobody likes Wabash.

Hard to keep your identity when you barely have the enrollment to keep your buildings doors open.

[MarshallCounty]

Rockville and Turkey Run didn’t want to merge. Union Dugger and North Central Farmersburg didn’t want to merge. Demographic changes sometimes force tough choices. 

[MacAttack53]

MSD (Southwood and Northfield) don’t want to take on Wabash City’s debt. And legally I don’t think they can due to the structure of the Wabash City Schools. 

[Muda69]

12 hours ago, MacAttack53 said:

MSD (Southwood and Northfield) don’t want to take on Wabash City’s debt. And legally I don’t think they can due to the structure of the Wabash City Schools. 

You mean the residents of rural Wabash county don't want to pay, yet they have to pay more and more to maintain the current Wabash MSD infrastructure due to declining enrollment.  Better to just bit the bullet now.  Exactly how much debt does the Wabash City government school district currently hold?

[MarshallCounty]

D-Day for HNAC note.

[Gipper]

18 hours ago, MarshallCounty said:

Rockville and Turkey Run didn’t want to merge. Union Dugger and North Central Farmersburg didn’t want to merge. Demographic changes sometimes force tough choices. 

Sometimes consolidation is necessary.

[FinePrint]

So if LaVille and Knox are leaving the HNAC, who does the conference go after to replace them?

South Central

West Central

Argos

Rochester

Westville

Oregon-Davis

[FarmerFran]

1 hour ago, FinePrint said:

So if LaVille and Knox are leaving the HNAC, who does the conference go after to replace them?

South Central

West Central

Argos

Rochester

Westville

Oregon-Davis

I’d like to see them reach out to Rochester, Lewis Cass, West Central and or North Miami. 

[FinePrint]

12 minutes ago, FarmerFran said:

I’d like to see them reach out to Rochester, Lewis Cass, West Central and or North Miami. 

I hadn't thought of North Miami, but they would fit pretty well.  I could live with Rochester and North Miami, although I'd be surprised if Rochester doesn't end up in the new conference with Valley.

[CoachDurham]

Didn't they have West Central once?

[FarmerFran]

1 hour ago, CoachDurham said:

Didn't they have West Central once?

They were at the offset and left after a year or two. With Knox and LaVille leaving I could see them having interest coming back especially if the rest of the MWC pushes for 8 man. 

[MacAttack53]

I would see the TRC poaching teams from the HNAC before I see the HNAC taking teams from the TRC. 

[RedskinRumble]

27 minutes ago, MacAttack53 said:

I would see the TRC poaching teams from the HNAC before I see the HNAC taking teams from the TRC. 

Better TV Deal over in TRC country?

[AubbeenaubbeeCav]

On 3/13/2023 at 4:15 PM, FinePrint said:

I hadn't thought of North Miami, but they would fit pretty well.  I could live with Rochester and North Miami, although I'd be surprised if Rochester doesn't end up in the new conference with Valley.

I’d push for North Miami, North White, West Central, or South Central for HNAC. Argos and OD don’t have football and several other sports (wrestling, track).  I doubt Rochester would join as they would be significantly bigger than the schools that remain. Westville is too far from most of the schools

Edited March 15, 2023 by AubbeenaubbeeCav

[RingLeader]

10 hours ago, AubbeenaubbeeCav said:

I’d push for North Miami, North White, West Central, or South Central for HNAC. Argos and OD don’t have football and several other sports (wrestling, track).  I doubt Rochester would join as they would be significantly bigger than the schools that remain. Westville is too far from most of the schools

define “significantly”

not much different than teams in TRC

Rochester 495

northfield 275

Southwood 240

north miami 287

 

winamac 387

pioneer 313

triton 258

 

 

[Gipper]

19 hours ago, RedskinRumble said:

Better TV Deal over in TRC country?

More NIL opportunities as well.

[RingLeader]

How is this stuff done at some of your schools?  Do parents have any input? Is community involved to get a feel for what folks want?  Do principals and AD’s make unilateral decisions for the school?

[Julio]

17 minutes ago, RingLeader said:

How is this stuff done at some of your schools?  Do parents have any input? Is community involved to get a feel for what folks want?  Do principals and AD’s make unilateral decisions for the school?

No, No, Yes

[Gap Down Backer]

HNAC has invite letters out to Cass, N Miami, Rochester and S Central.  Not sure any will bite- Cass I could see more interested in TRC as they tried to get in there when MIC dissolved. 

[Muda69]

5 hours ago, RingLeader said:

define “significantly”

not much different than teams in TRC

Rochester 495

northfield 275

Southwood 240

north miami 287

 

 

 

 

I worry about the viability of North Miami, it seems they just keep losing enrollment.  Perhaps a consolidation with Caston, Northfield, or (shudder) even Peru would be the best thing for that community.