What is the Call?

[Warren05]

Team A kicks off to Team B. Team B player attempts to catch ball on fly. Ball bounces off said player and goes out of bounds? 

 

Is this Illegal Procedure? 

 

[Bobref]

2 minutes ago, Warren05 said:

Team A kicks off to Team B. Team B player attempts to catch ball on fly. Ball bounces off said player and goes out of bounds? 

 

Is this Illegal Procedure? 

 

Team B’s ball, 1st & 10 at the out of bounds spot. No foul.

[Warren05]

Just now, Bobref said:

Team B’s ball, 1st & 10 at the out of bounds spot. No foul.

That is what I thought but to begin the Warren LN game that I'd ehat happened. Warren was called for illegal procedure

[dazed and confused]

with the way the game is going, maybe it was called for Warren being on the field !

[Boilernation]

4 hours ago, Bobref said:

Team B’s ball, 1st & 10 at the out of bounds spot. No foul.

@BobrefYou should find footage of the City/Lake Central game. 3:25’ish mark on City’s game winning drive. WR literally drops the ball behind his back and the ball hits the ground. Judge on field was about to call incomplete when the sideline judge runs in to call it a catch. How does he make that call over the official who actually had the proper view?

Edited September 30, 2023 by Boilernation

[Rocket]

If the ball goes off a receiving players hands and in the end zone on a kickoff is it still a touchback?

[Yuccaguy]

4 minutes ago, Rocket said:

If the ball goes off a receiving players hands and in the end zone on a kickoff is it still a touchback?

Yes, it is.  The ORIGINAL "force" is the kick itself.    TOUCHBACK!   

[Coach Nowlin]

How bout this gem

Team A Kicks ball off in what is known as the classic KICKOFF, ball heads to the sidelines, heading to the pylon, TEAM B player runs towards the ball watching, TEAM B player ends up out of bounds, the ball is bouncing and the player reaches back in the field of play and grabs the ball while being completely out of bounds, at the 3 yards line.  

Where is the ball spotted ? 

(P.S. I knew this, but been a bit since I've seen it, and yes the crew got it right).  

@Yuccaguyand @Bobref are barred 

[Yuccaguy]

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

How bout this gem

Team A Kicks ball off in what is known as the classic KICKOFF, ball heads to the sidelines, heading to the pylon, TEAM B player runs towards the ball watching, TEAM B player ends up out of bounds, the ball is bouncing and the player reaches back in the field of play and grabs the ball while being completely out of bounds, at the 3 yards line.  

Where is the ball spotted ? 

(P.S. I knew this, but been a bit since I've seen it, and yes the crew got it right).  

@Yuccaguyand @Bobref are barred 

No comment...But this ain't the NFL..  

[dazed and confused]

5 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

How bout this gem

Team A Kicks ball off in what is known as the classic KICKOFF, ball heads to the sidelines, heading to the pylon, TEAM B player runs towards the ball watching, TEAM B player ends up out of bounds, the ball is bouncing and the player reaches back in the field of play and grabs the ball while being completely out of bounds, at the 3 yards line.  

Where is the ball spotted ? 

(P.S. I knew this, but been a bit since I've seen it, and yes the crew got it right).  

@Yuccaguyand @Bobref are barred 

isn't that just kicking out of bounds ?

 

[JustRules]

On 9/30/2023 at 3:49 AM, Yuccaguy said:

No comment...But this ain't the NFL..  

I believe the NFL has changed their rule as well. NCAA still allows this intentionally. NFHS changed their rule 6-8 years ago.

If you intentionally go OOB and and then influence the play (i.e. touch the ball in bounds to cause it to be out of bounds)  you are guilty of illegal participation. In this case the penalty would be enforced 15 yards from the previous spot and re-kick. There is no foul for free kick out of bounds.

The original play could have been ruled correctly as a free kick out of bounds if the crew determined the R player didn't step out intentionally and then touch the ball in bounds.

Edited October 1, 2023 by JustRules