Muda69 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Doyel: IU and Mike Woodson had to part ways. As usual, Woodson was the last to know. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2025/02/07/indiana-basketball-asked-mike-woodson-to-resign-then-told-him-its-over-iu-step-down-retirement-fired/78344378007/ Quote Difficult to the end, Indiana basketball coach Mike Woodson has been pushed out of a job he never seemed to understand or embrace. He was the men’s college basketball coach at IU in name if not deed, bringing to Bloomington an NBA mentality that included a minimum of recruiting, and all the golf he could play. Recruits in the state — even the ones IU targeted — will tell you they barely knew him. High school coaches in the state will tell you they didn’t much like him. Coaches at other colleges around the Big Ten had a nickname for Mike Woodson: Bigfoot. Because no one ever saw him. When IU announced Woodson’s pending retirement Friday, it did so without a quote from Woodson. This is what I meant by the first four words of this story: Difficult to the end. Discussions about the Woodson-IU separation had begun Wednesday and heated up Thursday, with an announcement expected mid-afternoon, but then Woodson did what he does: He disappeared. Bigfoot was gone. The school was left to wonder: What now? Are we going to have to fire this guy? .... Quote
Irishman Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Hard to argue this point I remember several years ago, the exact same question came up with Nebraska football. Is Nebraska a great program or was Osborne a great coach? But IU does have history prior to Knight. He just took it to another level. And, no disrespect to Davis, but the 01 team was Knight's team. Davis was smart enough to 'let it ride'. 1 Quote
Irishman Posted February 18 Author Posted February 18 I am seeing Nick Cronin's name thrown out there and it makes me wonder, is IU REALLY more of a destination than UCLA? I love Bloomington, but he is in LA. I would place UCLA higher up on the historic program level than IU. I would add that I don't trust Cronin. He had issues when he was at Cincy Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I just think his Midwest ties tie onto Indiana Nobody cares about sports in California. Too hip for it. 1 Quote
Irishman Posted February 18 Author Posted February 18 18 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: I just think his Midwest ties tie onto Indiana Nobody cares about sports in California. Too hip for it. I would tend to agree. But UCLA basketball seems to be different. They turned quickly on Alford. Quote
gonzoron Posted February 19 Posted February 19 12 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Nobody cares about sports in California. Simply untrue. Just an ignorant statement. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Real intrerest out there..... let me tell ya NOW, if you want to be that guy to get all anal about me using the word NOBODY, then guilty as charged..... YES SOME PEOPLE..... care...... but yea, those attendance figures for home games for our new friends of the B10 basketball would say otherwise....,. Hence why I opin, Cronin perhaps wanting to look into a place like IU in the midwest where MORE PEOPLE care about college athletics than other places such as CALIFORNIA https://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/story/2025-01-02/ucla-basketball-big-ten-hostile-crowds Quote “There’s some schools — obviously we’re not in their league anymore — you go play in those places and there’s 1,000 people and it’s cold and you’re paranoid because your guys can’t get going, there’s just no energy in the building,” Cronin said this week. Arizona was the only Pac-12 team to average at least 10,000 fans for home games during the conference’s final season. Oregon State, Stanford and Washington State averaged fewer than 4,000 fans, with California barely topping that threshold at 4,022. There will be a carryover effect in the Big Ten given that all four newcomers from the Pac-12 rank in the bottom five in home attendance, with USC’s average of 3,872 the lowest and UCLA ranking next to last with an average of 4,830. YUP, I am just an IGNORANT STATEMENT guy @gonzoron Quote
gonzoron Posted February 20 Posted February 20 3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: NOW, if you want to be that guy to get all anal about me using the word NOBODY, then guilty as charged. Nope, I'm more annoyed about the Trump Groupies attempting to insert their political digs into subjects that don't concern politics in a 'supposedly' non-political forum. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 20 Posted February 20 18 hours ago, gonzoron said: Nope, I'm more annoyed about the Trump Groupies attempting to insert their political digs into subjects that don't concern politics in a 'supposedly' non-political forum. So, let me understand this....... Quote I just think his Midwest ties tie onto Indiana Nobody cares about sports in California. Too hip for it. That was a "political dig" from a suppossed "Trump Groupie" Sigh........You've really had a tough year pal if that is the leap you made out of nowhere on a thread about IU basektball and their next head coach where I showed you the exact reason my opinion about "Nobody cares about College Sports in California". Backed it up with Data from the HC of UCLA and the LA TIMES. And you response was "TRUMP". Make it make sense. Sad really, go on a Vacation, clear your cloudy noggin and get some fresh air @gonzoron So yes Back to the topic at hand....... From some of my thoughts: my #1 choice would be Chris Beard My #2 Choice would be Bryce Drew My #3 choice would be guys you may not of heard of : Matt Langel Colgate Darian DeVries (just in year 1 at WV after nice run at Drake Quote
gonzoron Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said: And you response was "TRUMP". Make it make sense. Everything you've replied about left out your political statement you made in the first comment. We didn't see this stuff until you and your son Danny decided to come back. "Too hip for it"? Attendance levels didn't change when those teams mentioned joined the Big10. The PAC12 averaged 6900 the year before as well. I don't call that being "too hip". It's more to do with the amount of entertainment available to the west coast population vs here in the cornfields of Indiana, where folks keep packing the gym to watch a team who can't win a National Championship. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 20 Posted February 20 who is "we". are you using WE in a perverbial sense? I was told recently that "WE" in perverbial sense doesn't fly in certain committees yea man.... its cool, youre just wrong, but its cool on my "reasoning" of purpose of my message.... "TOO HIP FOR IT". literally the same thing you said..... you say entertainment options are more bountiful, okay sure.... I say UCLA and USC college kids don't care about going to games like traditional midwest teams I have mentioned. What is equally frustrating is when you allow percieved notions cloud your reading and judgments of other humans. Thats a bummer that is a path you have chosen in this particular thread. Youre looking for something that just isn't there, nice try, glad you took that walk, its brisk out there, but worth the good fresh air. Do you care enough to commett on who you think IU next coach should be or just here to correct my grammar and make baseless fraudlent statmetns about thigns that have ZERO to do with the actual topic? Quote
Firsttimeformerdad Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) . Edited February 21 by Firsttimeformerdad Quote
gonzoron Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: who is "we" The members of The Gridiron Digest 3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: perverbial *proverbial* 3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: fraudlent *fraudulent* 3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: thigns *things* 3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Do you care enough to commett on who you think IU next coach should be No, I have no preference. They've made horrible decisions over the past 25 years, I don't expect them to do any better this time. But they do have several National Championship banners hanging in Assembly Hall. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 21 Posted February 21 17 hours ago, Firsttimeformerdad said: . 16 hours ago, gonzoron said: The members of The Gridiron Digest *proverbial* *fraudulent* *things* No, I have no preference. They've made horrible decisions over the past 25 years, I don't expect them to do any better this time. But they do have several National Championship banners hanging in Assembly Hall. WHOOPSIE huh 😂 This is a perfect ending Cheers Quote
gonzoron Posted February 22 Posted February 22 16 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: This is a perfect ending Cheers LOL, ok. It ended for me with my comment calling out the ignorant statement . The spinning and deflection hasn’t changed my opinion. G’Day 1 Quote
Impartial_Observer Posted February 23 Posted February 23 https://www.facebook.com/reel/2095700094213493?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v Quote
Irishman Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 Find a coach that can get that level of talent to play with that effort and energy on a more consistent basis, and that team would be a real threat. At the very least, get them to play where the drop off from a game like today is not a complete dumpster fire, but just slightly off of it. At least then most of their games would be competitive. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted February 24 Posted February 24 My guys lost their minds for yet another 2nd half meltdown, been quite the bugaboo of late...... Need a full reset before March mentally... starts with PG, funk IU has a great opportunity with remaining schedule..... Quote
Muda69 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Doyel: Trolls/students have ruined IU Basketball: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2025/02/24/purdues-matt-painter-lectures-indiana-basketball-fans-to-support-iu/79678129007/ Quote ... One day later, on Monday morning, I reached out to Painter by text message to ask him about his two-minute monologue for the sake of IU basketball. I’m wondering if he came to that news conference hoping to get the chance to deliver that very message. At the end of my text, I conclude my question like so: You’re offering Indiana a chance to get better. Why did you do that? Painter being Painter, he answered like the kindly middle-school teacher he could’ve been. “I just answered honestly from my perspective,” he wrote back. “I did not think about it until it was asked. I am not saying I am 100% accurate because I do not know everything on their end.” You see why there are devoted IU fans — including two former student-managers, plural, under Bob Knight — who would like the Hoosiers to pursue the coach from Purdue? “I’ve said for two years, call Painter,” one of those former IU basketball managers texted me last week. “Tell him you have a contract for seven years, $70M. Make him say no.” Painter knows and clearly respects Scott Dolson — another former IU student-manager, by the way — but he’d say no to IU. How many other coaches would say no to the Hoosiers because of a fan base, sorry a troll base, that actually makes it harder to win? How many have said no for that reason? A number larger than zero, believe that. The IU trolls get in the gutter that is social media and say awful things about the coach or to the players, which again makes Indiana like dozens of schools, but the online #iubb negativity is so normalized that the atmosphere at Assembly Hall has followed mindlessly into the gutter. It’s mainly the student section, perhaps only the student section, but the student section is huge — for certain games, anyway — and this season we’ve heard thousands of spectators angrily booing Mike Woodson or Indiana-born senior Trey Galloway. If the only place you ever read about the routine meanness inside Assembly Hall is here, don’t ask me why I keep writing about it. Ask other sites why they don’t. Because it’s loud and obvious and awful, and has become so commonplace that even the coach at Purdue is sick of it. Maybe this is why former Celtics and Butler coach Brad Stevens keeps turning down the chance to coach the Hoosiers. Maybe this is why another former IU student-manager, Dusty May, is staying at Michigan. Maybe that’s why one of May’s closest friends in the business answered as he did two weeks ago, when I’d asked the confidante if May had the stomach to leave Michigan after one year “even for his dream job.” May’s friend wrote back: “Who says that’s his dream job?” Are the trolls a problem at IU? Yes. Clearly. Again, if you’re an IU fan and not a troll, don’t get upset. Well, don’t get upset at me. Get upset at the trolls in your midst, perhaps centralized in the student section at Assembly Hall but more spread out on social media. That’s where the lowest common denominator gathers to get angry and mean and cruel, and then wonders why coaches keep saying no to what was once one of the greatest jobs in college basketball. 1 Quote
23andCounting Posted March 1 Posted March 1 On 2/20/2025 at 4:41 PM, gonzoron said: It's more to do with the amount of entertainment available to the west coast population vs here in the cornfields of Indiana, where folks keep packing the gym to watch a team who can't win a National Championship. Basketball was invented in Indiana you idiot. IU packs the house. Butler packs the house. Purdue packs the house. Notre Dame packs the house. High school gyms pack the house. On 2/19/2025 at 7:42 PM, gonzoron said: Nope, I'm more annoyed about the Trump Groupies attempting to insert their political digs into subjects that don't concern politics in a 'supposedly' non-political forum. I don't think "Groupie" is a fair term. Over 76,000,000 voted for him. Add in the number of people who like him who didn't vote and we're talking 80 million plus. On 2/11/2025 at 6:41 PM, Coach Nowlin said: great comparison Nebraska to IU Hoops I respectfully disagree with this. I don't think football in the the State of Nebraska is what basketball is to the State of Indiana. What the two fan bases have in common is that taste of success. Once you have it, you feel entitled to it. IU fans are altogether a different breed. Basketball IQ of the average fan in Indiana is off the charts. Quote
gonzoron Posted March 1 Posted March 1 51 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: Butler packs the house. Purdue packs the house. Notre Dame packs the house. That's what I said. Not very smart, are you? On 2/20/2025 at 4:41 PM, gonzoron said: vs here in the cornfields of Indiana, where folks keep packing the gym to watch a team who can't win a National Championship. 53 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: I don't think "Groupie" is a fair term. Over 76,000,000 voted for him. Add in the number of people who like him who didn't vote and we're talking 80 million plus. Discussion about politics is only allowed in @Muda69 OOB Club or a private club someone creates. Take it there Newbie. Quote
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