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Not exactly the same scenario, but here’s a different example from Volleyball. A team that had a bye into the semi-final last Saturday morning was supposed to play the winner of the Tuesday night opening round game. On Friday, a member of the team with the bye tested positive, and most of the team was instructed to quarantine. This forced them to forfeit their Saturday morning game and ended their season. Instead of following the quarantine, all of the players except the one who tested positive showed up at the sectional semi-final that was played on Saturday morning (between the two teams on the other side of the bracket). They sat in the bleachers, several of which had on homemade shirts that said “Let us play”. Certainly a bummer that they had to forfeit due to quarantine, but it was very uncomfortable for the teams that played knowing that this team was not supposed to be there.

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Central Catholic wins this sectional unless COVID/quarantine knocks them out.

Frankfort has hosted a 1A boys basketball regional while playing in a 3A regional at another site (Greencastle). Richmond was supposed to host a semi-state several years ago but they were not allowed to play at their home site. So they gave up the semi-state and Southport hosted while Richmond played at Seymour.

Count day was September 18th. Schools and corporations then have a reconciliation period that allows them to clean up any enrollment data they are required to report for funding (last chance to make sure you are claiming who you should and not claiming who you shouldn’t). That reconciliation period ends on October 14th. The DOE usually doesn’t post that data until about a month later.

If it was actually approved (not likely) I would expect any decisions to go to 8 man football would be agreed upon by schools that are members of the same conference. Small schools (1A) that are in the same conference as 2A and 3A schools would probably continue to play 11 man as long as numbers support it. Conferences made up entirely of 1A or very small 2A schools would possibly convert all members to 8 man football. That could lead to a new round of conference realignments, especially if some current schools without football add 8 man football. Highly unlikely to become reality, but interesting to think about with the loss of some programs due to consolidation.

Which of these IHSAA member schools would consider playing football if 8 man football was an option? Indianapolis Herron Lighthouse CPA (Gary) Muncie Burris Indianapolis Riverside Illiana Christian Westview South Ripley South Knox Austin Southwestern (Hanover) Wapahani Hebron Irvington Prep Academy S. B. Career Academy Henryville Gary 21st Century University F.W. Canterbury Rossville Hauser Hammond Sci & Tech Jac-Cen-Del Westville Northeast Dubois Loogootee Daleville Washington Twp F.W. Blackhawk Christian Indianapolis Metropolitan Clay City Rising Sun Kouts Bloomfield White River Valley Christian Academy of Indiana Cowan Lanesville Wood Memorial Morgan Township Victory College Prep Academy Orleans Marquette Catholic South Central (Elizabeth) Shakamak Borden Indiana Math & Science Argos Morristown Providence Cristo Rey Shoals Lakewood Park Christian Faith Christian New Washington Blue River Valley Christel House Academy Southwestern (Shelby) Elkhart Christian Indianapolis International Greenwood Christian Oregon-Davis Randolph Southern Bethany Christian Waldron Liberty Christian Trinity Lutheran Rock Creek Academy Trinity School at Greenlawn Eminence LaCrosse Shawe Memorial Covenant Christian (DeMotte) Cannelton Crothersville Bethesda Christian Lakeland Christian Seton Catholic Union (Modoc) Bloomington Lighthouse Hamilton Washington Catholic Vincennes Rivet Central Christian Academy Evansville Day School Medora Smith Academy

Don’t be surprised to see several charter schools pop up in South Bend. They already have Career Academy. It will be just like Gary in 10-15 years.

It will be interesting to see what happens when there is a confirmed case on a team. Prior to the season and especially during the season. Would a coach instruct their players to not get tested for the virus and just stay home sick so the team can continue?

It would be nice if the edit post feature was permitted here. Since it isn’t, here’s the direct link to the article on Walters Memorial Stadium at Homestead: Dave S. Walters Memorial Stadium Article

Fast forward to around 16:28 for the quote I posted related to athletics. Information and Updates to Indiana Schools Related to COVID-19

The pics I have seen were posted by players, a few of which had coaches or adults in them, or pics posted by assistant coaches.

Dr. McCormick explicitly said in today’s “Information and Updates to Indiana Schools Related to COVID-19” video (type that into YouTube if you want to watch it) that schools are to have no facility access for students until at least June 30th. She goes so far as to specifically say “I want to bring my athletics back, can I open up the weight room? - NO!” This will be hard for many coaches to accept. Especially the ones dumb enough to post pics on Twitter of their players in the school weight room lifting, or out on the field doing a workout.

I wouldn’t expect contraction for the 20-21 school year. However, school budgets could definitely see reductions for the 21-22 school year as a result of lower tax revenue generated during 2020. That will potentially cause less funding to be allocated to schools for the 21-22 school year. How much less remains to be seen, but I would consider it a strong possibility. In the fall of 2008, the economic recession began which led to high unemployment and decreases in tax revenue. State and Federal budgets were already in place for 2009, so most schools didn’t have to make cuts for the 2009-10 school year. The reduced tax revenue led to budgets being cut for 2010, which is why many schools made cuts in the spring and summer of 2010 for the 2010-11 school year. Depending upon how long this lasts, I could see a similar trend happening in the next 2 years. 2020-21 will probably be ok, but schools could feel a crunch for the 21-22 school year. That’s where closures of schools may come into consideration. It may not be a contraction of a football program, it may be a contraction of entire schools.

I would think he applied for the Fishers position when it was open not long ago. Those kinds of discussions are prohibited here, so I don’t know. This hire just needs the “Great choice” “Great coach and even better person” and “HSE got a good one” comments to complete the transition. Note: all of those things could be absolutely true about Mr. Kelly. Sarcasm is intended to poke fun at the comments that tend to follow nearly every hire.

I believe that is prohibited here.

8 schools dropped from 3A to 2A for the cycle that began this year. Southridge is also moved up to 3A due to success factor. Their enrollment would put them back in 2A (18 spots below Webo). Webo’s 8th grade class has the exact same number of students as their senior class, so their number shouldn’t change much from the 536 they have this year. Here’s what would possibly be the bottom 10 for 3A and top 10 for 2A based on this year’s enrollment (includes only 1 Elkhart and Indy Manual above them). There can and will be change in these numbers next year, which will be the enrollments used to set the next classifications. 3A Enrollment 55 Indianapolis Ritter 548 56 South Vermillion 547 57 North Montgomery 544 58 Monrovia 538 59 Speedway 537 60 Salem 536 61 Western Boone 536 62 Brownstown Central 534 63 River Forest 531 64 Woodlan 525 2A Enrollment 1 Oak Hill 520 2 Sullivan 518 3 Eastern (Greentown) 516 4 Rensselaer Central 515 5 F.W. Bishop Luers 511 6 Fairfield 508 7 Greencastle 506 8 Blackford 504 9 Centerville 502 10 Rochester 501

I assume that you are looking at the enrollments that were used to set the classes for the current cycle, which are from the 2018-19 school year. I’m using the enrollments from 2019-20. Don’t forget that the consolidation of a couple schools that are larger than Webo will reduce the number of schools above them in the order of enrollments (2 Elkhart schools down to 1), and who knows what Indy Manual (a 3A school) will look like a year from now when classifications are being set.

I think it depends on the strength of the program, as well as the potential opponents they could face in each class. Some schools may have a much easier tournament path in one class compared to another. Coaches may want to try to schedule some of their sectional opponents for regular season games, so that might cause some work for AD’s if they change classes. That seems to be more common with basketball and baseball since they have more flexibility with their schedules. I’ll use Lafayette Jeff as an example. They’ve been close to the 5A/6A split for several years. If they had been in 5A during the last 3-4 years, they would have been a threat to make some deep tournament runs. They’re a solid 6A team, but haven’t been able to get out of their sectional. Dropping back to 5A would potentially create an easier path being in a sectional with teams they have beaten for the last several years (McCutcheon, Harrison, Kokomo). Mishawaka has been on the 4A/5A cutoff for years, but they’ve been successful in both classes. They’ve made deeper runs the years they’ve been in 4A, but still won several sectionals in 5A. Mississinewa may move down to 3A in the next cycle. Their 3A sectional would probably be weaker, but everything after that is a bigger challenge than 4A in my opinion. I actually think the 3A tournament is tougher than 4A, especially with Dwenger, New Pal, and Cathedral all playing in 5A. Evansville Memorial would be an example of that - won 4A this past season after losing in the 3A finals in 2018. Western Boone has been close to the 2A/3A split and has greatly benefitted from the move down to 2A. In 3A they struggled to make it out of their sectional with the Indy parochial schools or West Lafayette. In 3 years playing 2A they’ve won a regional and 2 state championships. Using the enrollment numbers from the 2019-20 school year, they would go back to 3A, and there is a good chance they will get bumped by success factor anyway. Linton-Stockton has stayed close to the 1A/2A cutoff for a while. They had some great runs in 1A, but haven’t made it out of their sectional in 2A with Southridge and Mater Dei. They would probably welcome a return to 1A, but their enrollment likely keeps them in 2A for the next cycle.

An athletic program can elect to play up, but they cannot choose to stay in their current class if they are moved up due to success factor or by enrollment. They cannot elect to play down a class either. Zionsville is moving down to 5A this fall with the consolidated Elkhart moving up to 6A. Zionsville could elect to play up and stay in 6A, and the next smallest 6A school would move down to 5A instead. Let’s say the opposite occurred and Valpo was assigned to move up to 6A when a 6A school closed or split. Valpo could not ask to stay in 5A (Note: in the past the IHSAA has always just left an open spot in a class when a school closed rather than move a school up. However, they also never made a mid-cycle move due to a consolidation until this situation with Elkhart this year). Electing to play up can be done in a single sport and does not have to be for all programs at a school. South Bend Washington did that with boys and girls basketball a few years ago. Both were going to be 3A by enrollment but one of the two programs (can’t remember which) elected to play up in 4A. I am not sure what the official process is to petition the IHSAA to play up, but it has to be done prior to the alignment of sectionals during an alignment year (20-21).

Those success factor points only keep you in a class if you were bumped up. Like New Pal for example. They already have enough points to keep them in 5A no matter what their enrollment is next year. They could go to 6A with a regional win, but cannot move down to 4A since they already have 4 points. Warsaw did not get moved to 6A due to success factor, so they could be moved down based on enrollment even if they score enough success factor points to “stay up” in 6A.

It could be done with some planning. Facilities have improved enough to make it possible (turf fields with sufficient seating in both the home and visitor sides). This would have been relatively easy to assign during the 2019 season. This is assuming that the host schools would be willing to do this, but it could have looked something like this: @ Warsaw Valparaiso vs Dwenger East Noble vs Hobart @ Lafayette Jeff Carmel vs Merrillville Eastbrook vs Andrean @ Kokomo Chatard vs Mishawaka Marian Lafayette Central Catholic vs Adams Central @ Warren Central (or Arsenal Tech) Ben Davis vs Center Grove Western Boone vs Triton Central @ Martinsville Evansville Memorial vs Mount Vernon Heritage Hills vs Danville @ Columbus North New Pal vs Bloomington South Indianapolis Lutheran vs West Washington

Hardy was actually from Elmhurst. I think he caught the go-ahead touchdown pass to beat Dwenger in the season opener during his senior year (03-04). Elmhurst had six consecutive 0-10 seasons, then beat Dwenger who had played in the state finals the previous season.

No issue at all with the attendance secretary reporting this. By law, he has a duty to do so (which is why all the others are professionally hanged). Copying the surveillance video, which he probably downloaded to a personal device without school permission, and then distributing it to the media (even with permission from the victim’s parents) is not a good way to ensure job security. That being said, the clip of the AD walking in on the coach and the student, then walking out smiling is disgusting. This is on a similar level to the Park Tudor situation with Kyle Cox. A scumbag coach with an invincibility complex that bit him.

River rats.