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Many.....Many schools have a one week fall break during football season. Some during the last week of season or first week of tournament

State Finals would likely be in June, similar to Baseball. I don't know that...but the Ohio proposal does something similar. I also don't think attendance will be as affected as you think, the appetite for football would be huge, and the novelty of it would likely draw crowds especially if social distancing was done by then. I'm not saying I want this to happen....I want us to come back from moratorium and be back to football.

This is the real reason. Football gate money and the State Finals fund high school sports. If social distancing practices (of some type...think "large crowds") are still in place this fall, it would prevent that revenue....it is not just "outside of the box" thinking, you could argue its the financially responsible decision. I would hate it personally, but not over the choice of just cancelling football for an entire year. As far as conflicting with basketball state finals....I think a lot of IHSAA "dates" would be shuffled if such a change would occur. I don't always agree with IHSAA decisions, but I have faith they'd get that figured out.

Saw that Gov Holcomb said no “non-essential” gatherings of 250+.... Nothing on IFCA Twitter yet

Entire state of Ohio just closed schools for 3 weeks. https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200312/coronavirus-ohio-to-close-schools-ban-gatherings-of-more-than-100-people

Without getting into why Coach Marsh left, I think this is a bit strong. Roncalli's postseason success the last 15 years has been based almost entirely upon whether they had to play Cathedral. I think the last time Scifres beat Cathedral in the tournament was '05 or '04. Marsh was there 3 years...lost to Cathedral twice. His predecessor had a lot of L's to Cathedral in the decade prior. But the Rebs made some deep runs and got a title when Cathedral moved up. Hats off to them....a lot of other schools are in that boat, it shouldn't be seen as a slight. Maybe I'm out of my lane, but I don't see Coach Marsh's performance being any different than the last decade of Coach Scifres' tenure. Maybe that's just where the Reb's are right now? Hats of to Coach Rodenberg if he can take them through Cathedral consistently.

I agree with this 100%....with some further specifics. Demographics/Economics changes in the last few decades across most all of Northern, IN. (Ft Wayne to a lesser degree). With a significant amount of population movement from the Region and SB/Elk area to Northern Burbs of Indy. I live in Hamilton County and can hardly keep count the number of Duneland/NIC/NLC folks that are down here now. A LOT of Legacy families from all of those programs are now in the Indy Metro area....specifically Northern/Western Burbs. At my kids' ball games, I know people from Penn, Hobart, Jimtown, Valpo, LaPorte, Goshen, Plymouth, etc, etc, etc. These are guys who were GREAT players in all the blue blood programs (I don't count myself one of them😋). That is a lot of football "culture" being exported from Northern, IN to the Indy Burbs. More specifically, Penn is NOT a "Mega" school anymore and has not been able to keep pace with the growth of the MIC/HCC schools. They would fit nicely in the middle of both of those conferences across most all sports. Being at the top some years in some. Maybe most importantly.....some of the legends of Indiana Football have been retired for a long time.....Gees, Howell, Sharpe, etc. Their contemporaries are drawn to the FtW, Indy Metro areas. Hopefully this ebb will flow in time....in my football soul, I want to see the NLC, NIC, & Region football get back to par with the Indy Metro

from Iowa....do you know him?

Watched some off an on....only saw 1 KO. Is it possible for a team to OSK under those rules? If so how does it work?

Interesting...I was a 4 year letterman and 3 year starter. I don't remember getting any of that "Scoli" money....nor did any of my teammates. 2 guys that lived on my floor freshman year were getting about half paid for for financial reasons....they didn't even play sports to my knowledge. Where do I file my grievance?😁

Fisher - OT, Avon

This in spades....and twice on Sunday. Why we are on "east coast" time is a mystery to me. I could go on and on about why....but it would derail the topic. Without DST we were at least on a "normal" schedule half the year.

The Carmel/BD game would be the Silver Dollar Bowl. Betty White (the last living Golden Girl) would flip the Silver Dollar before the game. It would be played at Elwood high School.... ....at dusk.

I think everyone really agrees there is no easy answer because that is the problem. You have a very small number of schools that are MUCH larger than everyone else. You could argue its really a SUPER 2 (Carmel - 5300, BD 4500), The NEXT 2 (WC - 3800, NC 3700), and then from Fishers on down everyone is withing about 100 kids of the next school. I think in a perfect world you would never classify schools together if one is twice the size of another but its hard to draw that line in Indiana unless you just put BD and Carmel in their own class. Those 2 are the real outliers, and I don't have an answer for it. If you feel its unfair for 2055 Zville to be in the same classification as 5300 Carmel...you're probably right. If you feel that other factors (outside of enrollment) contribute to success...you're probably right. If you feel there isn't a workable solution when its really 2 (or 3...or 4) schools that are the real outliers....you're probably right.

Winning half your sectionals isn't being dominant....(honest question)? Keep in mind on a few occasions they were in the same sectional as WC. I'd bet many of the other losses were to Avon or Pike...both schools over 3000. Fishers shares a sectional with Carmel most years....there is your answer for that. North Central shares a sectional with at least 1 of the Big 3 every year....there is your answer for that.

I think the "logic" is the entire point of this thread....you do see variety. EXCEPT for the sectionals occupied by the big 3 MIC schools....Carmel, BD, WC. Once you get down to the Penn's and Lake Central's of the world (3500 on down,) the size discrepancy is easier to overcome with a good class, good coaching, favorable demographics, solid program, etc.

Because many of these 3000+ schools are in the same sectionals

Let me shred my own a idea a bit....if 6A was Big 16 and 1A was little 16, then the remaining 4 classes would be over 70 schools...wouldn't work with an all in format unless you added a weekend for 2A-4A. As DT has suggested....most of this would really require a 7th class. My maths wuz bad....but Its fun to think about....🙃

A bye week after season and a bye week at "Semi State" weekend. If that is a "problem" those two games could be played on a Friday or Saturday double header another weekend. Friday double headers are common throughout the season. Although I get the tradition of the Thanksgiving weekend.

I always thought the best fix would have been to put bottom 16 in 1A, top 16 in 6A, divide the rest by 4. The outliers are at the ends of the bell curve....the mega large and micro small. Not much difference in between. Combine with rolling 4 year SF cycle and you've got something. my 2 cents

How do you handle people in the team box that are not affiliated with either team? We got a sideline warning earlier this year when a cameraperson for one of our well known Indy media entities was in the stripe during a play. Now, we may have very well deserved a warning at some point, but it wasn't on that play. 😇 Anyone had this come up before? If so how did you address it, and how would a HC best address it with the crew?

This is more to do with Kelly's coaching and less to do with the fact ND limits his ability to recruit the same talent pool (as Bama, Clem, OU, etc)? This is the same gripe made about every coach since Lou (and arguably Lou at the end of his tenure). I'm not buying that....not going to retype my post from pages ago, but its up to ND as a University to decide what it wants. A. Be the best of the Northwesterns & Standfords (a fine thing to be btw) B. Or be one of the dominant football teams in the nation every year. Currently they seem to be A in actual practice, but claim to be B and blame the coach when the fan base gets frustrated. Too much of the fan base buys that line IMHO..... my 2 cents and worth as much...😀

The "Holy Fathers" need to decide if they really want to be all in on a being a "National Power". If you are only going to recruit Stanford/Northwestern type STUDENT ATHLETES...you are going to be, on the average, Stanford and Northwestern. Nothing wrong with that at all. If you want to beat Alabama, Clemson, etc. You need to recruit the same FOOTBALL players Alabama & Clemson are recruiting, and not worry too much about whether or not they will be able to pass freshman Calculus at Notre Dame. At some point Notre Dame, as an institution, needs to realize its not every coach they've hired the past 2 and a half decades that has limited them. My understanding, is Lou had a much wider hand in the athletes he could recruit and sign.

Sadly, they don't play for the Chief anymore because #feelings...

They should make space suits out of whatever fabric his pants are made of....normal polyester could not withstand the forces that were just applied to those britches!