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They've only given up a handful of TDs, across the season, in the first half. Most of the points scored on Cathedral have been against 2nd/3rd string this season or after the game's been pretty much decided ... Center Grove being the exception.

Indiana weather never seems to disappoint come championship weekend and makes one quite enjoy the dry, climate-controlled atmosphere of LOS.

2 Point Games Zionsville @ Cathedral Westfield @ Center Grove Northridge @ Mount Vernon 4 Point Games Andrean @ Evansville Mater Dei Brebeuf @ Gibson Southern 6 Point Game Adams Central @ Lutheran

Mishawaka petitioned up toward the start of SF. Scecina was actually in 2A by enrollment when they won state back in the very early 90s. Their enrollment number dropped and they would have come down to 1A, but they petitioned to remain in 2A for a while before letting the enrollment run its course and dropping back down to 1A. They ended up being bumped via SF although they were the poster school for teams getting SF'd without a blue ring in the process and then enrollment increased enough to remain in 2A. Mishawaka Marian actually petitioned to move up two classes, if my understanding is correct, at they won 1A back in the 70s. The IHSAA only allowed a one-class bump though. I don't recall if they petitioned again to get to 3A or if it ended up organically by enrollment.

I think you and @Indiana Fan are actually in agreement. He also seems to say he'll take some counter-action to the claim that CG beats the field in 2022.

Agreed. I can tell you no one up this way thought Brebeuf was under the radar. West Lafayette had been watching for them the whole season starting with that win over Chatard early in the season. Harrison played both of these teams and I'd agree that they both looked good this season.

If Lutheran looks as good this season as they did when they played LCC a couple of years back at LOS, then I would consider them a tough nut to crack. They had a big line and their offense was very balanced and it made it hard to pin them down even when situation seemed to dictate a propensity for one type of play or another. Defense was fairly solid even with LCC's swiss-army-knife offense from that season.

Is that like when you are TPing someone's house on Halloween and the cops show up and everyone scatters?

2 POINT GAMES Ben Davis @ Center Grove New Albany @ Cathedral Northridge @ New Prairie Adams Central @ North Judson Tri @ Lutheran Gibson Southern @ Tri-West 3 POINT GAMES Merrillville @ Westfield Zionsville @ Michigan City Mount Vernon @ Evansville Memorial Brebuf @ Marian Andrean @ Eastside Evansville Mater Dei @ Scecina

Scecina 34 - LCC 13 about 3 mins left in the game.

NJSP 15 - Carroll 0 end of 3Q Scecina 34 - LCC 7 4 mins left in 3Q

Scecina 21 LCC 7 in 3Q

Scecina 19 - LCC 7 11 or so left in 3Q

Scecina 13 - LCC 7 at the half

Scecina 13 - LCC 0 end of 1Q

Scecina 6 - LCC 0 about 3 mins in 1Q

I bet @Bobref will tell you he's been called a lot worse, by a lot better people. 😀

2019 - LCC vs. Lutheran in 1A state championship. Tied at 21 going into the half. Lutheran scores in the 3rd to take the lead 28-21. Defenses then stifle each other for most of the rest of the game. Lutheran forces LCC to punt with under 10 minutes left in the game. They then eat up a bit over 6 minutes of clock and get to LCC's 20, but miss a field goal with about three minutes to go in the 4th ... still holding the lead 28-21. Moment - LCC drives 80 yards in a little over two minutes to score. 28-27 Lutheran. Instead of the tie LCC goes for, and makes, the 2-point conversion with under a minute left and wins 29-28.

3 Point Games North Judson @ Carroll Lutheran @ Parke Heritage Tri @ North Central LaVille @ Andrean ... It was fun while it lasted, LaVilla Strangiato hits a crescendo and a denouement tonight ... @Donnie Baker@Irishman@gonzoron@nmsu_aggie "Buenos Nochas, Mein Froinds!" Eastbrook @ Eastside Scecina @ Lafayette Central Catholic Tri-West @ Owen Valley Mississinewa @ Northridge New Prairie @ Lowell Valparaiso @ Michigan City @CoachDurhamAny chance I can get 5-points per game if I pick them all wrong? 😀

The unknowing "fan" in the stands says, "I'll take a swing." 😀

Over my 18 seasons of coaching youth ball, I had more kids sit out of football due to concussions from school recess, soccer, messing around with their siblings, etc. and more broken bones from skateboard, jumping off of bleachers at school, and all other assorted activities other than football. Had a kid one season that came in after the weekend with his forehead bandaged. The other coaches and I looked at each other and were trying to figure out how that could have happened in the weekend's game, since we never saw him have any contact that was hard, much less on the head that would cut the forehead. Turns out that he and his brother were playing paint can lid Frisbee after he got home from the game and he let one slip between his hands. Took several stitches to close him up. The most dangerous place for a youth football player seems to be away from the field. 🙂

One big thing that Lutheran has also is the been-there-done-that culture of that school. For the last five seasons, Lutheran's season has come to an end at the hands of 3 state champions and two runner-ups with three of those in semis and one under the dome at LOS. For of those games, the most recent as a matter of fact, were all decided by 8 or fewer points. I also have to imagine that Lutheran's looking in the mirror like this year is their destiny year.

To some extent I agree, but I think you look at it in context. I would not take off the table, as a future punishment, both teams being eliminated from a tournament and I also would make sure that there was something commensurate for a team that didn't care if they were out of the tournament vs. the team that won that game and would benefit from staying in. With that said, I've not seen the video, so I'm speaking in more general terms than specific to this. What upsets me most about this is that any player thought the actions were acceptable. Yes, in the heat of a moment a kid often does something bonehead, but when it gets to this level, that not an isolated bonehead moment ... that's culture and that's coaching. Yes, I only coached youth ball, but took time at the start of the season and throughout the season to talk about how to conduct ourselves on the field. No player talks to the ref other than to say "Here you go" when handing not tossing the ball at them after a play, "Thanks" when being helped up, to respond to the coin toss request or whether we want to take or deny the penalty, or to say "Good game" after the game. No player talks to a player on the other team except to say "Good run or good catch or nice pass or good hit," "Thanks" after being helped up or paid a compliment, or "Good game" after the game. If you are hit after a play, held, punched, etc. you immediately return to the huddle without a word, tell me or the offensive coach, and we will discuss with the ref or the other team's coach. They were not to put their hands or body on another kid during the course of the game except in the course between the whistles of a fair hit. And while you might say, well that's just youth ball, I had players have to endure trash talking, taunting, head-hunters at the end of the game taunting smaller guys who got to run the ball, punching, slamming heads into the ground by grabbing the face mask and yanking down, and handfuls of mud flung up into the face of offensive linemen. Our boys knew that was unacceptable whether you were winning or losing and retaliation was only an option through pancaking the guy on the next play, hitting him hard enough to make him drop the ball, or outrunning him to the goalline. Again, I'm going solely off of what I'm seeing folks say about this in the thread, but this doesn't sound like a bonehead, one-off kind of event and the IHSAA should make sure that there is something that comes down on this. The vast majority of these kids will not see a college field and it'll be rare for some of them to ever see a pro field, but I can guarantee you that everyone of them will be in a situation later in life where cooler, calmer, disciplined heads will be needed and muscle-flexing will provide the wrong kind of attention/result.