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Using Snider, East Central, and Chatard as an example. I'm sure all three of those programs and their fans would chomp at the bit to have that opportunity. But think of the financial ramifications. Bowing out in Round 1 or collecting gate money for four more games. It's no fun to think of it that way, but I think it's the unfortunate reality. I will say, that as a fan, I'd love to see a mandatory format like that.

I'm looking forward to this game. I left Luers for dead after the first two weeks of the season.

1. I keep giving kudos who throw their rankings out there, and I mean that. With over three hundred and fifty teams, I just find it hard to accurately come up with a Top 25. I enjoy Temp's Top 25 and appreciate the time and effort he puts into it. 2. Again, you're speculating. There's no way you can say that Crown Point isn't as good as Cathedral and Center Grove. You're letting prior year's results skew your opinions. 3. I'll take that one back, I don't really think your stupid. I appreciate your passion for high school football even though we disagree. I just think you put too much conviction in your opinions, stating them like they're facts. I always try to remember that we're all here for the same reason. We're all passionate about high school football. It's not a very large group. Most people would rather support money grubbing institutions like the NCAA and the NFL. So kudos to all who are here. But lets continue to debate and get on one another's nerves, it would be a boring forum otherwise.

Thanks for the information. I think we can all appreciate why Arizona went to that format. In my opinion, the only teams that would accept are 6A teams, they have nothing to lose. For levels 1A through 5A, I think financial matters come into play. For the record, as a fan, I would LOVE to watch this play out. I just don't see anyone lower than 6A jumping on board.

Like him or not, blocking him would be blocking a large chunk of topics on this forum. Like DT, he's able to spark conversations and debates.

1. No one is hurt. One man's opinion on a forum like this holds very little weight. 2. Someone has to be ranked 1, 2, and 3, right? That doesn't mean Crown Point isn't in the same league as those teams. And for the record, unless you can bring up a receipt, I don't think I proclaimed Cathedral as the fourth best team in the state. They're up there, but I don't think I said that. I'm probably not going to stick around for this discussion much longer. I'm doubting your mental capacity to debate with me.

I don't see the point of winning a state championship then putting your team in position to lose a game the following week. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

I think some programs would take issue with it. Advancing in the playoffs brings in a lot of revenue to their athletic departments. Outside of that, I think a program would be flattered to "get in" and compete against the best. Although I love the idea, I don't see it gaining traction in the state of Indiana.

Eliminate Hamilton Southeastern and Fishers. Although they can make a case for that 8 position, I don't see the point in including a team that doesn't finish in the top two of their own conference. I think you also eliminate any team with three or more regular season losses (in state only). That eliminates Cathedral and bumps in both Crown Point and Snider. Crown Point speaks for themselves. If I'm on the committee, I include Snider over Penn, Valpo, and Merrillville. Although those three programs had outstanding seasons, they all suffered a blowout loss. Snider's only loss was in overtime.

I also think that's a great idea. I don't think it dilutes anything. The winner of 6A will almost always be given credit as the best team in the state anyway. I think other programs are ok with that. No different than wrestling. The other schools can say "were the best with the resources that we have."

Lol, agree.

1. You're comparing my rooting for a team to a guy who point blank referenced a program as "losers?" I'm at a loss for words. 2. You state that like it's a fact. Not sure how you can say that about an undefeated team that destroyed Merrillville and beat Westfield. No one is going to pretend Crown Point is on IMG's level. But Cathedral and Center Grove haven't done anything this year that guarantees they are better than Crown Point. You're making a presumption based on prior years performance. And that's fine. But you're presumptions aren't facts.

There's actually a cartoon about that the South Bend Tribune put out regarding that. Overall, Penn has a slight advantage over Snider in the win column, but you're right, there was a period where Penn would blow through the regular season unblemished before running into Snider. The 90's I believe. Ironically, isn't that when Penn was winning state championships? This is how fans used to travel...... Snider at Penn 2003. Don't really wanna discuss the game though.

Yes, Ben Davis is Merrillville on steroids. From an athleticism and speed standpoint, the Pirates are the closest team we have for comparison. Crown Point wasted them. Some teams are built to contain that speed. Brownsburg being one of them. I don't know much about Brownsburg. Is it safe to say they're just a bunch of motivated hard nosed kids like Center Grove? That's how I'm seeing Crown Point. Really just presumptions on my part. By the way. I don't dismiss transitive property. Some on here believe it's the end all be all, I don't. I don't believe you do either. Honestly? I'm just hoping to watch four competitive football games this weekend.

Hopefully I stay long enough to find out. I'd love for Crown Point to prove people wrong. Wait.........reverse that. My "true colors" are showing.

Which teams did Ben Davis play that had Westfield down 17 points and eventually beat them? I don't care too much for transitive property, but since it's so popular and overused on this forum, I won't hesitate to bring it up once in awhile. I have a hard time believing Crown Point is the average of the Ben Davis schedule this year.

Not sure you can compare anything I said to what he said yesterday. Shocking you'd even bring that up and make a comparison. But I don't know you from Adam, so why be surprised I guess. I have much respect for the East Central program. Is there anything wrong with me rooting for a team that no one is giving an iota of a chance of winning? The disrespect on this board is posters not giving these Northwood kids a chance. There's always a chance. Go Panthers.

I think Crown Point is above the average team Ben Davis has played this year. "I may be wrong, but I doubt it." Charles Barkley

Nothing against East Central, but I'm looking forward to watching the Northwood team celebrate their victory on Saturday. Good luck to the Panthers.

Gentlemen's bet. I'll give you the 21.5. Wasn't Crown Point up on Westfield 17-0 at one point? Honest question, because I'm not sure. I think they were up 17 regardless of the score. Brownsburg is the only team that's done that to them all year up until that point.

I think that's been done in the past by some members. And for the record, when someone throws out there the suggestion of money, I don't think it's really intended to be taken seriously. The amount just simply shows how strong one feels about something. For instance, 2k would be equal to a 9 on a 10 point scale.

PM me to work out the details.

No running clock in the state finals. Won't matter. At the very most, Ben Davis could turn it on and win by 21. But that's best case scenario for the Giants.

Not gonna lie. I'd love to see Snider rumble with Penn in the playoffs like old times.

Lol, 49 points? I'll take Crown Point for $2000. You in?