Footballking16

Stop making sense, please and thanks.

There's three P/P's that have dominated their respective enrollment classes in the last decade; Cathedral, Chatard, LCC. Telling Noll and Park Tudor they have to play schools twice their enrollment because Cathedral and Chatard punch above their weight doesn't make any sense. That's why the success factor was implemented. It punishes the schools that are actually successful not just by association.

How is having Park Tudor and Bishop Noll playing 2 and 3 classes up achieving competitive balance? It doesn't. We have the success factor already and it's more than suffice.

If you're using a multiplier as the basis for competitive balance, how is doubling the enrollment of "p/p school x with a moribund football program" achieving that? It doesn't, which is why a multiplier is the single dumbest argument for achieving competitive balance.

A multiplier is redundant if you ask me. Either keep the success factor or designate an automatic 1 class bump for all P/P's and be done with it. A 2.0 multiplier doesn't even get Chatard 2 classes up and you can be damn sure Chatard is one of two schools that a multiplier is supposed to penalize.

Yes. Mishawaka did that for a few years. Played in 5A as a 4A when the IHSAA initially went to 6 classes. Could be argued that 4A was stronger than 5A and that was a primary reason.

Success Factor achieves it's primary purpose, "penalize" the successful teams. DT speaks in absolutes about achieving competitive balance, how is Park Tudor or Bishop Noll playing 2-3 classes up achieving competitive balance?

so Guerin and Brebuef should be in 5A but not Chatard? How does that make any sense? The success factor works just fine. Good teams will bump up, others won't. Park Tudor and Bishop Noll playing in the 4A state tournament just because Chatard and Cathedral punch above their weight may be your worst take yet. There's three schools on that list who have dominated their enrollment class the last decade or so; Cathedral, Chatard, and LCC with LCC coming back down to Earth. Take out Chatard and Cathedral, and every one of those P/P's are cyclical just like any other public school.

What do you mean football magnets? The only common bond Cathedral and IMG share is the fact they are both technically considered high schools and that is about it. And this doesn't start and stop with football, but IMG's sole person is to offer an education to athletes looking to enhance their athletic ability. It's literally in their mission statement. You don't go to IMG unless you have legitimate professional aspirations in your desired sport.

Cathedral hasn't played in a 4A tournament in almost a decade. Cathedral loads up on its regular season schedule due to the terrible postseason format the IHSAA has regulated. With no penalty or reward for regular season play, why wouldn't you do anything but play the best competition that gets you ready for the postseason? Is taking advantage of a poor system the fault of Cathedral?

IMG literally has kids from all over the country and Canada and has 4 and 5* players at every position. To my knowledge there isn't a single kid on Cathedral, who to date has a Power 5 offer. Calling Cathedral a traveling all star team and comparing them to IMG is over the top, even for you. Yes, Cathedral is having an exceptionally strong year a big reason being a phenomenal junior class, but Cathedral's last 3 tournaments have ended in this fashion: Regional New Pal 35-10 (4a school by enrollment) Sectional Final Decatur 21-14 Semi-State Columbus East 42-13 Cathedral hasn't won a state title since 2014. I don't disagree for a second that Cathedral couldn't compete in 6A year in and year out. But classification isn't built on could and couldn't compete.

No and they shouldn't have too. No school should voluntarily play up 2 classes especially when opposing schools have 3-4x their enrollment.

It is what it is. Cathedral in their own right is in the midst of arguably their greatest season and have been steamrolling teams. No real disrespect to Whiteland but for Cathedral to lose this game it would take colossal failure on several fronts. Cathedral, along with Center Grove, are simply on different planets than the rest of teams this year. I'm predicting a 48-7 win for the Irish.

No disrespect to Whiteland but this will be a 2-3 score game 6-7 minutes into the game. Cathedral will then go on cruise control until the mercy rule sets in sometime early in the 3rd Q and the 2's and whoever else that is left on the dress will play out the remaining minutes.

Lawrence’s on-field presence probably alters ND’s game plan to a degree. From the first snap, ND was committed to stacking the box and shutting down Etienne while forcing the freshman to beat them over the top. And while he threw for a ton of yards, I’m guessing ND isn’t going to do that with Lawrence in the game. Still, a hell of a win for the Irish. Gutsy performance till the very end.

The Big Ten just needs to worry about getting a team in the playoffs. And outside the inaugural year in which Ohio State won it all, it’s not like the B10 has fared any better. Michigan State was blanked in 2016. Ohio State was blanked in 2017. Big Ten didn’t have a team in 18 or 19. And Ohio State choked last year.

Nebraska had been fading since the late 90s. Eric Crouch and Co was their last good team and they got smoked in the 2000 national title game. Oklahoma is in the next tier of teams behind Clemson/Alabama/OSU. It’s those three and everybody else. Oklahoma I’m my opinion is the best of the rest.

I’m not talking about individual seasons. I’m talking about program status. To say Oklahoma isn’t an elite program is preposterous. They’ve consistently been one of the best programs in the country the last 15-20 years. They’ve won 10+ games 17 times since the start of the century. By far and away tops in the country in that regard.

Elite takes on more than year ya know? The last 10-15 years without a doubt elite.

? Oklahoma is a perennial CFB participator and would be the second best team in the B10 behind Ohio State, no questions asked. Saying Oklahoma isn't great or elite is flat out preposterous. Texas has the most resources out of any athletic department in the country and COVID isn't changing that.

I've heard from both Martin brothers, whom I grew up with, that Notre Dame wouldn't touch Urban with a 10 foot pole. Wayyyy too much baggage.

Texas and USC aren't as good as they used to be (currently) because their respective athletic departments keep making bad hire after bad hire compounding the issue. But the USC and Texas job in of itself are top 5 jobs in college football along with OSU, Oklahoma, and LSU. There was a 10-15 year period from the Mid-90's up until Alabama hired Saban where the Crimson Tide sunk into heavy mediocrity due to several consecutive bad hires. Saban righted that ship overnight. The right person at Texas and/or USC has either program right in the thick of things almost overnight.

This ^^^ DT continually fails to see or completely ignores the recruiting pipeline into USC and Texas has been halted due to coaching athletic department incompetence. It's not like Texas and and Southern California stopped playing high school football, recruits just stopped going to those schools because of the current coaching climates. Urban Meyer fixes that instantly and then some. It's easier to recruit at Texas and USC than it is at Michigan naturally, hire one of the best college football coaches of all-time and it becomes cake.

Harbaugh is: 0-5 against Ohio State 3-3 against Michigan State 3-2 against Penn State 1-4 in bowl games Ohio State is just a small part of Harbaugh's problem

Michigan can't even beat Michigan State with any kind of regularity, Harbaugh included. What are you talking about? Only once has Michigan finished better than 3rd in their own division since Harbaugh has taken over. Penn State, Michigan State, and Ohio State have all won the B10 in said time frame. It's still a big job considering their namesake and tradition, but it's not the ticking timebomb that is USC and Texas.