Boilernation

C'mon. You have no idea why Hart choose Syracuse over Purdue unless he actually told you. Have you reached out to Purdue or IU's coaching staffs and submitted your resume to be a recruiting analyst for them? You seem to have it all solved. One thing to consider is It might be easier to get a kid from the South to come up for a free Big Ten education as opposed to convincing a kid from the Midwest to choose you over several other Big Ten schools that have been more successful lately. Obviously, winning changes that. Nonetheless, looking at Walters' 2024 Class by State out of HS: Ohio = 5 Indiana = 4 Illinois = 3 Tennessee = 3 Texas = 2 Florida = 2 Alabama = 1 Kentucky = 1 Michigan = 1 Colorado = 1 Mississippi = 1 Nearly 60% of the HS recruits are from Indiana or a state that borders Indiana. That percentage would have been much higher had the in-state kids Purdue offered actually signed with Purdue. The 8 confirmed portal transfers has a kid from indiana and Ohio. As the use of the portal grows it's likely going to skew the roster numbers in regards to Midwest or National, which is expected. You can't expect a coach to work the Porta or JUCO ranks for only guys with Indiana, Ohio, Michigan or Illinois HS backgrounds.

Carson Steele is a very poor analogy for a variety of reasons. Per 247, Ringer and Wiliams combined for 1 Power 5 offer and that was Williams going to Iowa. Jaden Hart was offered by Purdue in 2021. They did what you asked. Did you ask him why he turned down Purdue for Syracuse? I could see Ringer being a miss, but that would mean every Big Ten school missed on him. Willimas barely even played for Lake Central this year due to an injury. Perhaps Purdue and IU weren't sold on him as a Junior and were waiting to see how he looked as a Senior. It seemed to work for Donovan Hamilton who is an in-state kid that signed with Purdue. And for every Josh Ringer is a plethora of kids whose names you'll never hear again. Purdue and IU are doing what the other middle of the pack to bottom Big Ten programs are doing. Feasting on scraps in football hotbeds and hitting homeruns with Midwest kids that either passed on Ohio State/Michigan/Notre Dame or weren't good enough to get offers from Ohio State/Michigan/ Notre Dame. Just because it hasn't elevated them to the level of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, etc. doesn't equate to them having more success with a roster centered around Indiana kids.

Peronally, I rather hit the portal than take a borderline Power 5 conference recruit. At least you have actual college film on the guy in the portal. Agreed. nothing wrong with the MAC. Free education. NFL scouts the MAC. And early playing time can lead to better opportunities in the portal. Purdue is getting a kid from Ball State. But, if a player only has MAC offers and not a single Power 5 Conference offer there's probably a reason and it's not a good idea for Purdue or IU to feast on those recruits. And only a very small percentage of them are like Carson Steele who clearly should have been highly recruited.

We're not talking about recent struggles here. We're talking about a well documented history of the state's top recruits opting for Michigan, Ohio State, ND or others not named Purdue or IU. It is what it is. Building connections early on isn't going to stop those kids from knowing the 3 schools above have a higher profile and offer a higher percentage to win. For example, look at Caden Curry and how many of his Center Grove teammates are at IU. What would you honestly do if you were given the option of playing with teammates at a historical Big Ten cellar dwellar or play on the vaunted Ohio State DL? Same for Mylan Graham this year. Go play WR at a school tha's turned into a factory for 1st round draft picks at WR or go play with Purdue or IU. It's a no brainer. And how do you know Purdue or IU's coaches didn't at least take a shot at the state's Top 5 players? One of them was committed to Purdue and bolted when Michigan offered. And I disagree regarding the "scraps" strategy. The scraps in certain states that Purdue and IU recruit will have numerious Power 5 Offers. Are you saying Purdue and IU should focus on flipping kids in Indiana who only have MAC offers? That gets a coach fired. And as someone mentioned, any kid from Indiana who should received better than MAC offers can just get picked up in the Portal anyways. But those will be few and far between.

Man, no fact checking by The Star or On3.com? Patrick Clacks didn't play for Andrean this year. The IHSAA blocked his transfer to Crown Point and he played in Chicago. Glenn Patterson didn't play for Lafayette Jeff as well. And I doubt Northern Illiinois is still going to take him.

Not really sure what you expect Purdue and IU to do. They're not going to outrecruit Ohio State, ND, Michigan and any SEC blue blood 99% of the time for an Indiana kid those schools want. If they then relied on flipping the MAC recruits they would really be in trouble. And some kids who IU or Purdue could get will choose to go play out of state for personal reasons like connection to certain coaches, academics, or a desire to leave Indiana. Looking at the where the Top 15 recruits in Indiana are going per 247 aligns with my thoughts from above: Ohio State Georgia Michigan Notre Dame Ohio State Indiana San Diego State (Connection to coach from Colorado) Notre Dame Indiana Purdue Louisville Indiana Iowa Indiana Purdue

Haha. I haven't seen Draft Day so I had to google who the heck "Bo Callahan" is. UYou're analogy is over my head. I'm fully convinced at this point Fields is gone. Poles already passed on Stroud last year. He can't keep his job if Fields never works out (even if it's the OL and/or OC issues holding Fields back) and he passed on a franchise QB 2 years in a row. He can get the 2nd round pick back that he used on Sweat if he trades Fields. Someone, possibly Atlanta, will give a 2nd rounder for Fields. The question then is do they end up with Williams, Maye, or Nix. Nix was someone that I assumed was a system QB in Oregon until I actually watched them play this year. He was throwing his WR's open with a lot of nice passes in every game I watched. Arizon and New England are now giving Carolina a run for that #1 pick. It's possible the Bears may not even have pick #1 if they end up parting ways with Fields. On a side note, how much does it suck being a Bears fan? It's Week 16 and all we've had to talk about hte past few weeks is whether nor not Flus and Fields stay.

Yeah. Not taking anytheing way from Tibbs as I think he has a bright future with Purdue, but a majority of the guys on Big Ten rosters were men amongst boys in HS football.

From Yahoo Sports. I don't get the love for Caleb Williams. Kid has a history of folding when the defensive pressure is ramped up. https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-trading-justin-fields-gms-explain-why-its-the-best-route-and-where-compensation-could-land-153257987.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACtlLQNBfB5mvs-4EIGXW5XSR_UjXdr6OOhcaYFv_6o-HsLmCpGB9ssA7cbaXI1xhzyzidshNZXRB9KmgCrQc5A-5yDwyWpDs9t-UqZsae5mqKsB8HZlyVsDzP2_xIEzL5f1i5jbn57gmh1qD7dLI40fgBPwYvUSxgcU9vsgLpP_

I'm looking forward to seeing how Fields plays against a solid Browns defense. The Flus/Fields situation is starting to get interesting. The Bears can really do some damage in the draft if they don't have to go QB with the #1 pick. I have no idea what the market in terms of draft picks would be if they did trade Fields. My assumption is they both stay or both go. I can't imagine they would keep Flus and give him a rookie QB. Likewise, I can't imagine them keeping Fields and giving him a new HC/OC.

That's awesome. Les Klein looks so young in that picture. I remember him as Portage's AD in the '90's when I was an Indian.

HaHa. I forgot about that. I'm onboard now. I don't know how that would work without Relegation. Unless it's easier than I'm thinking for all current Power 4 Schools to maintain their financial committment.

This was inevitable. And give me more reason to believe a system of relegation is in our future.

I like Travis' comment that he wished he broke his leg earlier in the year so the committe could see that FSU can still play without him.

Not following. Louisville went 10-3 and had no valid reason to complain if they were left out.

McCord doesn't surprise me as he didn't seem to have QB1 locked up for the foreseeable future. Gabriel surprises me though the only OU game I watched was the Red River Shootout. I'm still amazed by this Portal era.

You thinking he's staying in Ann Arbor?

Harbaugh probably dislikes every suit in the NFL and they all probably dislike him as well. Warren will take Harbaugh to win. Harbaugh would put up with Warren to be in Chicago if that's what where he desires to be.

Of course. But at that point it's semantics revolving teams who have lost enough games that they have no real gripe. Florida State as un undefeated has a legit gripe.

I love that the Committe admitted the health of Travis played a part in their rankings. Especially since they ranked FSU ahead of Georgia. So, FSU without Jordan Travis is better than Georgia? Ok. Glad we're going to an expanded playoff next year. It'll have it's faults but it beats this quagmire.

Washingon as a 10 point underdog made me with I was still a gambler. Man. What a crazy line.

Honestly, I think he would look like a QB that holds the ball too long and misses open reads. I could be wrong, but I thought Stroud was trending as the presumed #1 pick closer to the draft until it leaked that Carolina was taking Young.

Are you guys forgetting how long he holds onto the ball when he does have time to throw? He held the ball for a whopping 6 seconds on the play he hurt his thumb against Minnesota. And he fumbles, a lot. I'm not seeing him as QB1 with Philly's OL. The all 22 film consistantly shows him missing wide open WR's. IDK. If I'm Poles I'm cutting ties with a QB I didn't draft and bringing someone in on a rookie friendly deal that frees up more cash.

No thanks, but talk about getting the shaft. The Panther's lunatic owner forced his GM to pass on Stroud and draft Bryce Young. Now Reich has to take the fall for that decision along with Carolina having no talent whatsover.

Last night was like watching Iowa play Iowa. I agree regarding Flus. Poles even mentioned in a presser about 2 weeks ago how impressed he was with the energy and focus Flus brings to the team on a weekly basis. My guess though is he's gone. Albert Breer reported yesterday that the Bears were likely going to move on from Flus and that Kevin Warren wanted more influence in the decision making. I don't think that's necessarily bad as he has the right to have some influence over Poles. If Flus is let go and doesn't decide to take a year off, he'll likely be picked up very quickly as a DC. IMO, he's done a solid job taking over DC duties after the previous DC was fired. Regarding Poles, I think he's safe. I can't imagine Warren would OK his GM trading away a 2nd round pick and locking Sweat into a long term deal if he planned on firing said GM. It'll be interesting to see how they handle Fields. I was hoping he would firmly cement himself as QB1 and the Bears picked up the 5th year option. That would allow the Bears to potentially not have to use one of their 2 Top 5 picks on a QB. At this point I don't see how Poles can risk his future on Fields. I'm hoping he goes with Maye if he does draft a QB. And please hire an offensive minded HC.