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Solid. Let's set how they hold in the tournament, especially 5A.

As a person or as a persona on an online message board, you are OK with it?

Year and I'm sure Mr. Princeton, Pete Swanson, would've written a short novel about.

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I was going to start a thread on 2020 conference champions, perhaps needing an asterisk if conference by laws don't address such cases 🤔 I'll wait until Sunday and not distract on game day. Even state tournament champs at all rounds may need an asterisk given that some teams can't participate due to COVID-19 and related issues...

If it's that simple and Castle doesn't get a share of the conference title due to wins or winning percentage...I don't know. It's a tough call hopeful conference by laws addressed this pre-COVID. I assume some spring sport teams' records have previously been affected by rain outs. Interesting times. I hope your Tigers make things interesting down the stretch and get some momentum heading into the sectional and next year given they are a young squad... (I need to watch what I say. My niece is a first grader in Castle's school system. If RMHS starts "recruiting" her for her gymnastic prowess, I might have to notify the IHSAA...)

It's usually fine if already public knowledge and not malicious. Not all rules in life are posted because not all issues are black or white, illegal or legal. We learn through observation and experience what's acceptable in various contexts. ETA: @Bobref could probably explain with more authority about societal rights and wrongs and the theory behind that topic.

Having worked with, interviewed, and been in the destroyed houses of the ethno-religious group of Yezidi survivors of the 2014 ISIS genocide and being married to a survivor of Saddam Hussein's multi-decade genocide against Kurdish people in his own country, culminating in the 1988 chemical gas attack on civilians in Halabja, I find this headline distasteful and disparaging to survivors of genocide (or "cleansings"). You're better than this @DT. https://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/020620172

Can you post the Twitter link to fill the rest of us in about who this thread is about?

I was 3-0 against Jasper from 2001-2003. My debts are paid and I'm an active member of HH QB Club, even if I'm not there to play in the golf scramble, I donated a brick to building the wall, which I hope to see if I'm able to visit home for the holidays this year as I plan. Jon got the idea for the bricks in part due to Dad helping fund the Santa statue in front of town hall with customized pavers 15 or so years ago... I already owe Dave a Patriot Dog and an Diet Mt Dew at a basketball game; I hope to see you and others like Crewsy and BCaster if HH has a game (hopefully at home) around the holiday break. Back to the SIAC, and I might start a thread about this, should a conference champion that didn't play all the teams in the conference get an asterisk in the record book -- for example if Castle wins a share of the SIAC, they never played Bosse and that game was recorded as a "did not play" not as a "Bosse forfeit" as I understand it?

Still hoping for some crazy two-loss tie for the SIAC. I haven't played out all the scenarios, but I believe it's possible.

No it's because you're kraut eaters. FYI, My family is German, I speak German, and my mother has worked at the Schnitzelbank for 25 years and in Jasper for nearly 15 now.

Playing devil's advocate here, but I've long said if wrestling coaches can seed hundreds of kids in the sectional for what's debatedly the most exciting state tournament, then why can't football coaches too?

Yes, acting on the interests of the member schools... So I wouldn't call it the job of the IHSAA to maintain competitive balance, again they're reactive not proactive. It's nuanced, but an important difference.

But it's not the IHSAA pushing the reforms, we which I took to be @crimsonace1s point. The reorganization of tournaments has been a response to coaches' associations and ADs/principals. The IHSAA has no such independent agenda.

Shame TC vs Boonville would be a great match-up

Is TC playing Week 8 or not? Boonville also has no Week 8 opponent last I checked.

After Week 7 1. Central (7-0) - Deserved. Could the SIAC end up with a two-loss champion or does Central have this locked up? 2. Southridge (7-0) - Winning. It could get ugly against HH, but if the Patriots can be at full strength historically they have the antidote against the Raiders. 3. Castle (5-1) - Win out and get a share of the SIAC. 4. North (5-2) - What's happened to the North offense? 5. Gibson Southern (4-3) - Props for finding a game. County rivalry won't be pretty for Princeton. 6. Jasper (5-2) - Close doesn't cut it. 7. Tell City (6-1) - Fifth shutout. 8. Mater Dei (3-4) - Haven't lost to a team with a losing record. But still have four losses. 9. Vincennes Lincoln (3-4) - Wouldn't want to see them in the sectional. 10. Memorial (4-3) - VL game will be close. Could play spoiler against Castle. HM: Boonville (4-2) - Bye week this week or are the Pioneers looking? Well, North isn't making this any easier.

Heritage Hills has been very fortunate in having former star athletes (all-state, some collegiate-level) coaching feeder programs in many sports and it has reflected in varsity success. During the Bob Clayton years, a very disciplined man, Robert Compton, coached 7-8th grade for 25 or so years (yes he coached his sons). He understood it was a numbers game, so HH was notorious for losing to schools like Jasper and Southridge in Middle School, but turning the tide in high school. Generations have lined up correctly, so by the time a youth coach's children are active, they either have been promoted to freshman/JV/varsity teams or they step back and take a few years off so they can watch their children on the field/court. HH's only state championship football team in 2000 was the first class to go all the way through a dedicated 5-6th grade feeder program (not directly supported by the varsity team, but the people running Booster Organization for the varsity team were effectively the same as for the youth teams, albeit under a different organizational name). They were also the first class to go through 5-6 years of weight training by a strength coach (former Jasper player under Brewer who went to IU, majored in biology, became a male cheerleader who was 245 of pure muscle, and landed at HH as a science teacher ... in his later years he went on to teach on US military bases and has taken up a love for road cycling ... currently in Italy -- let's just say his 6-3 frame is quite different than Lance Armstrong's). So in conclusion, you need to fill the feeder leagues with coaches who understand the bigger picture and ideally went through the varsity program or at least understand it. This doesn't only apply to football, but I've seen it at different schools in soccer, basketball, and baseball... The "individual sports" can be a bit different, as you typically see more specialization, but a dedicated HC who hangs around the local golf course and can start grooming golfers from middle school can make you a conference and sectional contender very quickly, again no favorites -- field the best four and alternate that you can and let the chips fall where they may. HS sports is a community effort. Period.

It can depend. Obviously in 6A most teams are coming from the Indy area and probably have routines -- it might not be a bad thing for even smaller Indy-area schools to stay in a hotel the night before to eliminate distractions. Much depends on whether the team wants to practice at Lucas Oil and if they prefer to do so on Thursday or earlier in the week. I don't think there is a hard and fast rule for any program -- lots of moving parts.

It's not the IHSAA's job to maintain competitive balance, read its by-laws. Besides there being no reference to "competitive balance," it clearly is more devoted to being an entity to exist so member schools, student participants, and officials have a body to help organize and report to, so they all have an intermediary organization to communicate through. The IHSAA's by-laws are written in a much more "reactive" manner than "proactive." It's quite different than the NCAA, or especially professional leagues like the NFL.

Short of first-hand video footage, a police statement, or a school administrator (like an athletic director) -- who never would, you're just asking for the lawyers to get involved -- not a position any editor/reporter wants to be in. Much different if the subject of the story is an adult. Moreover, everyone who really needs/wants to know, probably already does. Cui bono?

Having played against the 2002 and 2003 Chatard teams and watched them in person until 2011 or so, when I hear "Chatard's best ever" my mind goes to the 2001-2007 stretch. Teams had multiple D1 players and played the state's best in Roncalli and typically a GCL team. Coach L ran a different offense than Coach D, so maybe those teams don't appear to be explosive, but if those teams are the measuring stick... it's far longer than 1 yard.

Each team doesn't have the same opponents. Central has an easier SoS than Bosse, as Central played Bosse and Bosse didn't play itself. The top team should have the worst SoS and the worst team should have the best SoS, ignoring the Castle-Bosse game because yeah. If all teams some how ended 4-5 or 5-4, I think you could theoritcally have the same SoS, or very close.

Yep. CalPreps or Massey might be slightly better, although Sagarin has to be using some kind of recent program success factor to rank closed conference teams... That or some voodoo statistics (which he is most capable of developing), involving comparing teams with similar records and Class, but then you still have the SoS quandry. No idea how Sagarin does it with closed conference teams.