temptation Posted January 1, 2025 Posted January 1, 2025 41 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: 7>1. Congrats to Jimmy for finally getting the one. No comparison between the two coaches when it comes to a collegiate resume. You know that… Yeah, I do. Just like the debate. Question however, had Saban started and finished his college coaching days at MSU, would he have had the same success as he ended up having at LSU/Bama? Why did he have so much more success in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa than he did in East Lansing and Miami?
Bash Riprock Posted January 1, 2025 Posted January 1, 2025 3 hours ago, temptation said: Yeah, I do. Just like the debate. Question however, had Saban started and finished his college coaching days at MSU, would he have had the same success as he ended up having at LSU/Bama? Why did he have so much more success in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa than he did in East Lansing and Miami? I think you throw Miami out of the college coaching equation....not an apple to apple comparison. He's not the only college coach not to excel at the level...Spurrier, Devine, Kush, Fairbanks all quickly come to mind. (Fairbanks did have a winning record during his NFL tenure) This is where Harbaugh does deserve a ton of credit...he's one of the few that has made the transition between pro and college and has excelled. Saban was only at Miami for 2 years, and didn't have much of a QB...an we all know that's essential at that level. I think it was him (could be wrong) that gave up on Drew Brees....and that was a huge mistake. Saban inherited a MSU that was in bad shape in 1995. Had not had a winning season since 1990, and experienced NCAA recruiting sanctions from the previous coach. While not a juggernaut by any definition, he did get them into bowl games in 3 of his 5 seasons, knocked off #1 Ohio State in 1998, and took the Spartans to a 9-2 record in his final season. Obviously he made impressions, as LSU snatched him up and later won his first championship. I would consider his MSU experience a success as he had to rebuild a program that was down, and as we all know, the formula back then for rebuilds very different than today. 1
Coach Nowlin Posted January 1, 2025 Posted January 1, 2025 3 hours ago, temptation said: Yeah, I do. Just like the debate. Question however, had Saban started and finished his college coaching days at MSU, would he have had the same success as he ended up having at LSU/Bama? Why did he have so much more success in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa than he did in East Lansing and Miami? You didn't cite me for the original owner of said question that was posed to you when it referred to Mr Harbaugh .... Welcome to my world of thinking sir, too you long enough
Sparty Posted January 1, 2025 Posted January 1, 2025 58 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: I think you throw Miami out of the college coaching equation....not an apple to apple comparison. He's not the only college coach not to excel at the level...Spurrier, Devine, Kush, Fairbanks all quickly come to mind. (Fairbanks did have a winning record during his NFL tenure) This is where Harbaugh does deserve a ton of credit...he's one of the few that has made the transition between pro and college and has excelled. Saban was only at Miami for 2 years, and didn't have much of a QB...an we all know that's essential at that level. I think it was him (could be wrong) that gave up on Drew Brees....and that was a huge mistake. Saban inherited a MSU that was in bad shape in 1995. Had not had a winning season since 1990, and experienced NCAA recruiting sanctions from the previous coach. While not a juggernaut by any definition, he did get them into bowl games in 3 of his 5 seasons, knocked off #1 Ohio State in 1998, and took the Spartans to a 9-2 record in his final season. Obviously he made impressions, as LSU snatched him up and later won his first championship. I would consider his MSU experience a success as he had to rebuild a program that was down, and as we all know, the formula back then for rebuilds very different than today. Didn’t the Ricky Williams trade absolute eviscerate the dolphins roster/draft ability?
PHJIrish Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 Scoreboard says that Saban won a lot of Natty's, compared to Jimmy's one. There's a wide margin there.
Bash Riprock Posted January 3, 2025 Posted January 3, 2025 Looks like former IU QB Tayven Jackson has landed in the Big 12. Hope it’s a great fit. 2
temptation Posted January 3, 2025 Posted January 3, 2025 On 1/1/2025 at 9:37 PM, PHJIrish said: Scoreboard says that Saban won a lot of Natty's, compared to Jimmy's one. There's a wide margin there. Eh, one metric…uneven playing field which is just as close to even as it’s ever been with the NIL era (see this year’s playoff results). Just curious how you view Mike Tomlin of the Steelers?
PHJIrish Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 (edited) I don't watch much NFL stuff. I stick with the high school and college ball. I only know that Tomlin is the most tenured coach in the League. On edit, I do watch the Colts, because they're the local team, but they don't play professional football too often. Edited January 4, 2025 by PHJIrish
temptation Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 9 minutes ago, PHJIrish said: I don't watch much NFL stuff. I stick with the high school and college ball. I only know that Tomlin is the most tenured coach in the League. On edit, I do watch the Colts, because they're the local team, but they don't play professional football too often. Well, he has only won 1 Super Bowl, is the NFL’s longest tenured coach, has won 7 division titles, made 12 playoff appearances and the Steelers have had 18 consecutive non-losing seasons under his leadership. Titles are just one metric.
PHJIrish Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 8 minutes ago, temptation said: Well, he has only won 1 Super Bowl, is the NFL’s longest tenured coach, has won 7 division titles, made 12 playoff appearances and the Steelers have had 18 consecutive non-losing seasons under his leadership. Titles are just one metric. So? I still won't be watching. 1
Bash Riprock Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 9 hours ago, temptation said: Well, he has only won 1 Super Bowl, is the NFL’s longest tenured coach, has won 7 division titles, made 12 playoff appearances and the Steelers have had 18 consecutive non-losing seasons under his leadership. Titles are just one metric. Excellent coach. No where near the NFL coaching legends that did win multiple championships. Dont kid yourself…rings matter. Especially in the coaching business. Attempting to blow out the candles of Saban or others won’t make Harbaugh’s burn any brighter. Your extreme man crush is duly noted. 1
temptation Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: Excellent coach. No where near the NFL coaching legends that did win multiple championships. Dont kid yourself…rings matter. Especially in the coaching business. Attempting to blow out the candles of Saban or others won’t make Harbaugh’s burn any brighter. Your extreme man crush is duly noted. LOL, my man crush pales in comparison to what you and a few other posters have on here for Cignetti. Furthermore, I would argue my man crush is warranted because my guy has actually won something of significance. Edited January 4, 2025 by temptation
Bash Riprock Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 1 minute ago, temptation said: LOL, my man crush pales in comparison to what you and a few other posters have on here for Cignetti. Furthermore, I would argue my man crush is warranted because my guy has actually won something of significance. Give it a rest...no one on this forum has talked about a coach like you have about Jimmy boy. Inspirational to read your words coming to his defense for the scandals at UM. As Harbaugh himself has stated, his first championship allowed him to sit at the big boy table within his own family......Not hardly Mount Rushmore material. For your personal safety, I sure hope Jimmy doesn't stop walking abruptly....it would break your nose..... 1
BTF Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 17 hours ago, temptation said: Just curious how you view Mike Tomlin of the Steelers? I'm not much of an NFL guy, but shouldn't Tomlin have more than one Super Bowl considering the amount of talent he's had during his tenure? It's been said that his Super Bowl was a result of a team that was built by Cowher.
temptation Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 51 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Give it a rest...no one on this forum has talked about a coach like you have about Jimmy boy. Inspirational to read your words coming to his defense for the scandals at UM. As Harbaugh himself has stated, his first championship allowed him to sit at the big boy table within his own family......Not hardly Mount Rushmore material. For your personal safety, I sure hope Jimmy doesn't stop walking abruptly....it would break your nose..... “Scandals”, lol. Give it a rest. Still waiting on that imaginary hammer to drop? Beat OSU and Bama without Jimmy this year…tells you all you should know.
PHJIrish Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 5 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: Excellent coach. No where near the NFL coaching legends that did win multiple championships. Dont kid yourself…rings matter. Especially in the coaching business. Attempting to blow out the candles of Saban or others won’t make Harbaugh’s burn any brighter. Your extreme man crush is duly noted. Like! 1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said: Give it a rest...no one on this forum has talked about a coach like you have about Jimmy boy. Inspirational to read your words coming to his defense for the scandals at UM. As Harbaugh himself has stated, his first championship allowed him to sit at the big boy table within his own family......Not hardly Mount Rushmore material. For your personal safety, I sure hope Jimmy doesn't stop walking abruptly....it would break your nose..... Like!
temptation Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 10 minutes ago, PHJIrish said: Like! Like! I’m just glad sex jokes are back on the table. @Bash Riprock seems to like to dish them out once again, but whine and make threats when they are replied to. Game on.
PHJIrish Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 I make it a point not to respond to trolls and those who just want to "shake things up." This is the last one.
temptation Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 Just now, PHJIrish said: I make it a point not to respond to trolls and those who just want to "shake things up." This is the last one. I’ve been told by others no criticism of you is allowed so I won’t drag you into this. Enjoy your contributions to the board.
Bash Riprock Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 1 hour ago, temptation said: I’m just glad sex jokes are back on the table. @Bash Riprock seems to like to dish them out once again, but whine and make threats when they are replied to. Game on. interesting what you call a "sex" joke. Then again, you went after an outstanding man with racist allegations. I've realized with you, logic and clear thinking takes a back seat. Bring it...but let's leave wives out of on-line conversations, shall we?
temptation Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 1 minute ago, Bash Riprock said: interesting what you call a "sex" joke. Then again, you went after an outstanding man with racist allegations. I've realized with you, logic and clear thinking takes a back seat. Bring it...but let's leave wives out of on-line conversations, shall we? I didn’t “go after” anyone. Bob sunk himself with his “cracker” comment. Pretty cut and dry…or should I say “black and white.” How long have you and Bob been dating? 1
Bash Riprock Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 1 minute ago, temptation said: I didn’t “go after” anyone. Bob sunk himself with his “cracker” comment. Pretty cut and dry…or should I say “black and white.” How long have you and Bob been dating? So you criticize Bob for an inappropriate reference, then come back with "attempted humor" with a same sex comment? As I said previously, throw logic out the window with you. I'm sure to appease your sensitivity, Bob will use "southern redneck" in the future.
temptation Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: So you criticize Bob for an inappropriate reference, then come back with "attempted humor" with a same sex comment? As I said previously, throw logic out the window with you. I'm sure to appease your sensitivity, Bob will use "southern redneck" in the future. Hey, once the “mods” of this board started playing favorites, all bets were off. You already knew that though. You’re one of the good guys. We both know that if I had typed the African-American equivalent of the word “ cracker” on this message board, I’d be banned instantly. Pays to be in “ the club.” Edited January 4, 2025 by temptation
PHJIrish Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 Just don't respond to someone that just craves attention!😣 1
gonzoron Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 52 minutes ago, temptation said: cut and dry *cut and dried*
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