PHJIrish Posted January 22 Posted January 22 I see the spread in the Indy Star and just pass it along. I don't prognosticate, or gamble, like I used to. I have to try to live within my means. The spread doesn't really matter to me. 1 Quote
PHJIrish Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Here's a gamble that didn't pay off: Miami man sells his food truck for $30K to bet $30K on the Hurricanes to win $150K and the Hurricanes lost [PHOTO] 2 Quote
Muda69 Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 9 hours ago, PHJIrish said: Here's a gamble that didn't pay off: Miami man sells his food truck for $30K to bet $30K on the Hurricanes to win $150K and the Hurricanes lost [PHOTO] The evils of easy gambling, shown again. FTA: Quote The timing of the incident fueled its momentum. Sports betting participation in the U.S. has surged past 50%, with more adults placing wagers than ever before. The accessibility of mobile sportsbooks, the rise of parlay culture, and the normalization of gambling language on social media have reshaped fan behavior. This Miami man became a symbol — not because he won, but because he lost in a way that felt cinematic. The public watched a real human go all-in, fueled by confidence and hope, only to collide with the unpredictability that defines sports. For analysts and everyday bettors alike, his story underscored a truth: while the excitement of hitting a big parlay keeps people engaged, the majority of high-risk wagers don’t pay out. And when they don’t, the consequences can be life-altering. 2 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 22 Posted January 22 11 hours ago, Sparty said: Not a fan of The U, as I’m an Irish fan, but man, it’s hard to immediately not think the ‘19 LSU squad and the ‘01 U team as some of the all time greatest. Great great great season IU. DEFINITELY a team that has a right to the argument as best college fb team ever. BINGO!!! You don't think that LSU 19 squad would have ran roughshod over the 2025 field? The list can continue. This is NOT taking anything away from 2025 IU National Champions of the Professional Collegiate Football Season. Literally had this discussion at bocce ball last night with pals.... A fella I respect with sports wisdom said, IU cannot be considered in this discussion as GOAT because they barely beat a team who barely got in the playoffs in the fist place. If they went out there and creamed them by 3 or 4 touchdowns (like folks in this thread predicted) then there is basis for conversation. But they didn't and that is ok too, but I know the exuberance is warranted amongst the IU Football fans, especially the BRAND NEW ONES on their 2nd year of the 5 year rookie contract they signed up for after last year as brand new IU football fans, ( I know that is not you Komet or Bash so keep your pitchforks in the shed) but as I have stated, lets pump those brakes on GREATEST of ALL TIME ( That's John Cena btw) ESPECIALLY, if your only quantitive reasoning is they played and won 16 games, just like a YALE team in 1894........or in the 30s...... 11 hours ago, PHJIrish said: I see the spread in the Indy Star and just pass it along. I don't prognosticate, or gamble, like I used to. I have to try to live within my means. The spread doesn't really matter to me. Fair enough I believe we all try to do that, seems like everyone here is pretty normal, my normal is not like many others however 🙂 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: The evils of easy gambling, shown again. FTA: No arguments here, for those who cannot show discipline , definitely could be evil.... but that goes with many things adults in America can choose to do. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 22 Posted January 22 This is cool and well played IU Marching 100! 1 Quote
Komets2727 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 18 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: ZERO BITTERNESS: Go back through every single iu thread I have spoken in: I have led with defending Coach Cig the moment I listened 1 month after he was hired at IFCA clinic. Why does the fact that they won a National Title in this era and myself pointing that out is somehow bitter? I am here to push back on the narrative that folks like @Komets2727 want to claim as BEST TEAM IN HISTORY of college football. I say pump the brakes there big boy: You are currently the best team in the current climate that is known as Professional Collegiate Playoff Football I contended only that there other GREAT teams that also would have had the same outcome as 2025 IU team had if they could have competed in the same rules established, why is that bitter? How quickly we forget the path that Coach Brohm took Purdue.... man that quick to forget after IU was the smart school to give Coach Cig the shot. I find it funny that MANY IU fans acting like every Purdue alum/Fan should just back the hoosiers because that is the right thing to do. Where was this same Energy when Zach Edey and 2 Sophomore guards led the team to National Championship game. Don't remember many of your ilk lining up supporting openly the mere possibility that Purdue could have won a Title on that night...... Lets see where these energies take us in March , fingers crossed I do but I believe you also spoke multi times about what the spread was each week and whether the Hoosier covered it or not I certainly hope they would: IU roster full of 23 Plus year olds beating up on a 1st year JV team that turned over 80 players in year 1. Not sure that is the flex you're hoping for there my friend. JUST IN THIS THREAD ALONE: As soon as the line came out, I said, -7.5, I WILL HAMMER THAT, because I thought it was easy money. 1. All you folks in here telling me how much that is easy money and no way they can stay with IU, many predictions of 3 to 4 Td victory around these parts. 2. My own eyes: IU Defense I thought would continue to make BECK useless (he was) 3. Disappointed in the IU OL that I was told was so dominant all year, they could run on anyone and all that.... but instead, they let Miami hang all game to the point where they could not hold on to the 10 point and extend it. SO IT GOES: Worse 3 day sports span in my adult lifetime I can remember. Please stop with the roster 23 year olds that NOBODY else wanted. You know, the zero and one star players that somehow developed into a national title team. It was laughable to watch the CFP that teams had 50-60 3 star and better recruits while IU is at 8 four star recruits. Pretty much every one of the players were available to every team out there and they passed, including Purdue. As far covering the spread, which Indiana easily covered the first 2 games of the CFP, does that win you a title? No. I think I saw somewhere where Indiana, who was 16-0, was 13-3 against the spread this year, probably right around the best in the country. If you bet on Indiana every game this year, you made good money Edited January 22 by Komets2727 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Why does the factual statement cause so much fury? Fact: IU was OLDER than Many teams in College Football Article are being written all over about it: https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/indiana-football-roster-age-hoosiers-070002516.html Quote Indiana football age vs. Packers An evaluation by PhillyVoice at the start of the 2025 NFL season found that the Green Bay Packers were the NFL's youngest team with an average age of 25.2 on their 53-man roster. Unlike at the collegiate level, an NFL team's roster age can be definitively determined. All players tend to have their birthdays publicly listed by the team, whereas college football programs generally do not make birthdays available for each player. If Indiana had an average roster age of 23, that would make the Hoosiers only two years younger than the Packers, who reached the playoffs this season. More likely, Indiana's average age among starters is closer to 22, which still leaves a comfortable gap with the Packers even if Cignetti's team does rely heavily on experience. Have I said, UNFAIR advantage? NOPE, literally discussing factual statements: And NO, IU players were not readily available like you claim, you think the JMU kids were going NOT follow Cig?? cmon man And if you have paid any attention to the MANY posts I have made in this section, I am very much a guys who could care less about "STARS". just like your Head Coach and just like EVERY head coach in College Football, literally no coach goes to his staff, "hey, open up ON3, or 247, or rivals, or espn, and give me the top 150 rated players by their stars on those sites". Comical These slapdicks in charge of the rating systems are notorious for sliding players up and down based on the "traditional offer of a traditional powerhouse or lack there of". Famous story of Purdue player, I believe it was Vince Edwards, literally when he verbally to PURDUE, his ranking immediately went down.........smh so again, I will repeat a line of Coach CIG: "I recruit PRODUCTION, not POTENTIAL". So, what a WILD concept that JRs and SRs at JMU coming off another double digit season, FOLLOWED their very successful HC to the Big 10. Again, PRODUCTION vs Potential. 23 year olds vs 19-20 year olds. HUGE advantage, NOT UNFAIR, but the advantage was capitalized. ALL FACTS, why is that such a sicking point?? Finally, I agree, IU did very much destroy Vegas and Yes, times I invested I was rewarded, not in game 16 however, which again, is what it is. Yes, I made a TIC line that most understood..... Quote
Komets2727 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 59 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Why does the factual statement cause so much fury? Fact: IU was OLDER than Many teams in College Football Article are being written all over about it: https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/indiana-football-roster-age-hoosiers-070002516.html Have I said, UNFAIR advantage? NOPE, literally discussing factual statements: And NO, IU players were not readily available like you claim, you think the JMU kids were going NOT follow Cig?? cmon man And if you have paid any attention to the MANY posts I have made in this section, I am very much a guys who could care less about "STARS". just like your Head Coach and just like EVERY head coach in College Football, literally no coach goes to his staff, "hey, open up ON3, or 247, or rivals, or espn, and give me the top 150 rated players by their stars on those sites". Comical These slapdicks in charge of the rating systems are notorious for sliding players up and down based on the "traditional offer of a traditional powerhouse or lack there of". Famous story of Purdue player, I believe it was Vince Edwards, literally when he verbally to PURDUE, his ranking immediately went down.........smh so again, I will repeat a line of Coach CIG: "I recruit PRODUCTION, not POTENTIAL". So, what a WILD concept that JRs and SRs at JMU coming off another double digit season, FOLLOWED their very successful HC to the Big 10. Again, PRODUCTION vs Potential. 23 year olds vs 19-20 year olds. HUGE advantage, NOT UNFAIR, but the advantage was capitalized. ALL FACTS, why is that such a sicking point?? Finally, I agree, IU did very much destroy Vegas and Yes, times I invested I was rewarded, not in game 16 however, which again, is what it is. Yes, I made a TIC line that most understood..... Plenty of transfers that Indiana got in 2025 were available to everyone, Pat Coogan from Notre Dame quickly comes to mind, several others as well that were not JMU transfers. Funny, JMU is a group of 5 school that gives IU an advantage??? Ok… Is Cignetti the first coach in the country that realized that getting 22-24 year olds was better than 4-5 star players that are 19-20? It sure seems like it. Proof is in the results. Been an IU fan all my life, it is ridiculous to me that IU football won a national title, much less the Big 10, a bowl game, won 10+ games in a season for the first time in school history, beat Ohio State for the first time since 1987, I could go on and on… These are new times for IU fans. My daughter went to Purdue for 4 years and loved it. I root for Purdue except against Indiana so I love what the basketball team is doing at Purdue. Compare that to the absolute train wreck that has been going on at IU for a long time. Cheers to the Big 10 for winning 3 straight national titles in football!!! Hoping the Big 10 can get one in basketball as it has been something like 25 years since the last one Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said: Why does the factual statement cause so much fury? Fact: IU was OLDER than Many teams in College Football Article are being written all over about it: https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/indiana-football-roster-age-hoosiers-070002516.html Have I said, UNFAIR advantage? NOPE, literally discussing factual statements: And NO, IU players were not readily available like you claim, you think the JMU kids were going NOT follow Cig?? cmon man And if you have paid any attention to the MANY posts I have made in this section, I am very much a guys who could care less about "STARS". just like your Head Coach and just like EVERY head coach in College Football, literally no coach goes to his staff, "hey, open up ON3, or 247, or rivals, or espn, and give me the top 150 rated players by their stars on those sites". Comical These slapdicks in charge of the rating systems are notorious for sliding players up and down based on the "traditional offer of a traditional powerhouse or lack there of". Famous story of Purdue player, I believe it was Vince Edwards, literally when he verbally to PURDUE, his ranking immediately went down.........smh so again, I will repeat a line of Coach CIG: "I recruit PRODUCTION, not POTENTIAL". So, what a WILD concept that JRs and SRs at JMU coming off another double digit season, FOLLOWED their very successful HC to the Big 10. Again, PRODUCTION vs Potential. 23 year olds vs 19-20 year olds. HUGE advantage, NOT UNFAIR, but the advantage was capitalized. ALL FACTS, why is that such a sicking point?? Finally, I agree, IU did very much destroy Vegas and Yes, times I invested I was rewarded, not in game 16 however, which again, is what it is. Yes, I made a TIC line that most understood..... You just can't stop yourself can you? Always a disclaimer with your congrats. I don't remember you pointing out Michigan and Ohio State's natty's via NIL. Now, you have to comeback with the age issue. As if its wrong that kids remain in school? Indiana average starting line-up age was 22.5-23. Basically the age of a redshirt senior. So what? When you don't have 4 and 5 stars, kids typically stay in school as its much harder for them to go to the next level based on pure god given talent. When it comes to NIL, IU sure spent far less than many other powers of college football, so perhaps a pat on the back for a good ROI. Is it so hard to simply say Congrats IU without a disclaimer or negative spin? If Purdue is fortunate enough to win a Natty in hoops, can we all say it would have never happened without NIL or congrats winning in the Professional College basketball era??? Or do we simply say, "Congrats Purdue?" Your disdain for IU is duly noted. Maybe saying nothing at all is good enough. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 22 Posted January 22 sigh..... Again, All just providing factual statements, you all are adding emotional disclaimer and tones, assuming my message is rooted in a way that is to bring IU down, contrary, you are using the knowledge of where I went to school and who I support as a basis of somehow coming up with a theory that I am down grading IU. You say Congratulations Purdue on winning a National Title in Professional Collegiate Basketball in 2025-26 season simple really : Facts: IU won with a bunch of transfers that are older than many other teams in college (never said UNFAIR, NEVER SAID OTHERS COULDN"T, SIMPLY stating the Fact These facts of how old they are, where they came from previously is in not lies is it? literally fact of the matter I have continued to champion IU successes the last 2 years pointing out why it has happened and all that. Find me 1 negative meatball post where I am diminishing IU, you'll have the complex that you must respond to my facts that you somehow think is downgrading the title.... that is YOUR issues, not mine. Remember, I jumped in to just push back (RIGHTFULLY SO) on the idea that bc IU went 16-0 in this Professional Collegiate Football season makes them automatically the BEST OF ALL TIME. There would be a good amount, off top of my head at least 3 perhaps 4 that I would say would of done exact same thing that IU did this year under the same system, hence why in good concious no one can claim IU or team XYZ is BEST OF ALL TIME, NO WAY to every quantify that. What they are is currently the BEST team in the CURRENT climate ever to do. it. they are 1 of 1 since its 1st year of the 12 team playoff. Its really not that deep And if AGE of their team is not a talking point, why are there a WHOLE bunch of articles written all over the inter webs....???? but Coach Nowlin... oooooh. he the bad man ...... boo that man Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 22 Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: sigh..... Again, All just providing factual statements, you all are adding emotional disclaimer and tones, assuming my message is rooted in a way that is to bring IU down, contrary, you are using the knowledge of where I went to school and who I support as a basis of somehow coming up with a theory that I am down grading IU. You say Congratulations Purdue on winning a National Title in Professional Collegiate Basketball in 2025-26 season simple really : Facts: IU won with a bunch of transfers that are older than many other teams in college (never said UNFAIR, NEVER SAID OTHERS COULDN"T, SIMPLY stating the Fact These facts of how old they are, where they came from previously is in not lies is it? literally fact of the matter I have continued to champion IU successes the last 2 years pointing out why it has happened and all that. Find me 1 negative meatball post where I am diminishing IU, you'll have the complex that you must respond to my facts that you somehow think is downgrading the title.... that is YOUR issues, not mine. Remember, I jumped in to just push back (RIGHTFULLY SO) on the idea that bc IU went 16-0 in this Professional Collegiate Football season makes them automatically the BEST OF ALL TIME. There would be a good amount, off top of my head at least 3 perhaps 4 that I would say would of done exact same thing that IU did this year under the same system, hence why in good concious no one can claim IU or team XYZ is BEST OF ALL TIME, NO WAY to every quantify that. What they are is currently the BEST team in the CURRENT climate ever to do. it. they are 1 of 1 since its 1st year of the 12 team playoff. Its really not that deep And if AGE of their team is not a talking point, why are there a WHOLE bunch of articles written all over the inter webs....???? but Coach Nowlin... oooooh. he the bad man ...... boo that man NO..you are adding the disclaimer. Most simply say Congrats. You just pick and choose who you give the disclaimer. I hope the Boilers do win a natty...and I will simply say congrats. Nothing else needed. Damn, you are worse than Finebaum and he eventually recanted. But, hey...die on that hill. Quote
Irishman Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Have been saying it....IU saved college football. No chance the viewership is this high if it were any of the teams we have been used to seeing in these games. Quote
23andCounting Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Irishman said: It is quite comical listening to all of the talk about parity and how anyone has a chance to be the next Indiana. Outside of the Hoosiers, wasn't it pretty much the usual suspects? Texas Tech I guess. Bottom line: Cignetti. Next season we'll see the same schools at the top. Georgia, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oregon, Texas..........Blue Bloods. Oh, and Indiana. There will be no North Carolina. Won't be a Wake Forest. And won't be an Oklahoma State. IU is where they are because of Cignetti first and foremost. Sure, the NIL and the transfer portal helps. But I think it's time to pump the brakes on the "anyone can do it" fantasy. You better have a damn good coach to get you there. Quote
23andCounting Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Irishman said: Have been saying it....IU saved college football. No chance the viewership is this high if it were any of the teams we have been used to seeing in these games. Not surprised in the slightest. Notre Dame vs Ohio State felt more like a regional game. Did it resonate with someone from California, Texas, or Florida? Probably not so much. This years game? The Cinderella story vs a team that is back after two decades of mediocracy. Midwest vs the Southeast. That kind of game apparently has more appeal then two blue bloods battling it out who are both from the same part of the country. Quote
Komets2727 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 4 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: sigh..... Again, All just providing factual statements, you all are adding emotional disclaimer and tones, assuming my message is rooted in a way that is to bring IU down, contrary, you are using the knowledge of where I went to school and who I support as a basis of somehow coming up with a theory that I am down grading IU. You say Congratulations Purdue on winning a National Title in Professional Collegiate Basketball in 2025-26 season simple really : Facts: IU won with a bunch of transfers that are older than many other teams in college (never said UNFAIR, NEVER SAID OTHERS COULDN"T, SIMPLY stating the Fact These facts of how old they are, where they came from previously is in not lies is it? literally fact of the matter I have continued to champion IU successes the last 2 years pointing out why it has happened and all that. Find me 1 negative meatball post where I am diminishing IU, you'll have the complex that you must respond to my facts that you somehow think is downgrading the title.... that is YOUR issues, not mine. Remember, I jumped in to just push back (RIGHTFULLY SO) on the idea that bc IU went 16-0 in this Professional Collegiate Football season makes them automatically the BEST OF ALL TIME. There would be a good amount, off top of my head at least 3 perhaps 4 that I would say would of done exact same thing that IU did this year under the same system, hence why in good concious no one can claim IU or team XYZ is BEST OF ALL TIME, NO WAY to every quantify that. What they are is currently the BEST team in the CURRENT climate ever to do. it. they are 1 of 1 since its 1st year of the 12 team playoff. Its really not that deep And if AGE of their team is not a talking point, why are there a WHOLE bunch of articles written all over the inter webs....???? but Coach Nowlin... oooooh. he the bad man ...... boo that man 16-0 is 16-0, period. You can say other teams COULD have done it, blah, blah, blah, we will never know. What we do know is Indiana did do it. Period. End of story. Until another does it, Indiana is on an island all by themselves. Good luck on getting there to any team. It is not easy. Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 23 Posted January 23 36% increase over last year’s OSU vs ND championship game Quote
PHJIrish Posted January 23 Posted January 23 A couple of quick items. First of all, Fernando will be on the Tonight Show tonight with Jimmy Fallon and he'll also be on GMA in the morning. I have seen this here yet but 'Canes QB Carson Beck stated on a podcast, iirc, that he hasn't gone to school, so to speak, at Miami as he received his degree at Georgia. Is it normal for a player not be a student? I guess since they're just hired by the university, it must not matter. Also, the talk about IU not beating teams that were included in the CFP is not valid in my opinion. The mark of a truly good team is just winning when they're not playing their best or just being outplayed by their opponent. IU just refused to lose this season, even when they weren't at their best! Quote
PHJIrish Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Here is a link to the Carson Beck story: Carson Beck GPA emerges after Miami QB has not attended class for two years - The Mirror US 1 Quote
Irishman Posted January 23 Posted January 23 17 minutes ago, PHJIrish said: Here is a link to the Carson Beck story: Carson Beck GPA emerges after Miami QB has not attended class for two years - The Mirror US @Coach Nowlin Posted a longer version of his comment. he did not have class that day, but he did say he was working on another degree. 1 Quote
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