tango Posted January 23 Posted January 23 On 1/21/2026 at 2:29 PM, Coach Nowlin said: PERFECT RESPONSE !! Tango Gets it !!! The ole Middling ...thought I don't track live odds much not sure if you could of middled or not I did not have that, but a friend did. I was happy cashing my IU National Champs future bet made as I was leaving LOS after beating Ahia State on Dec. 6.... 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) On 1/21/2026 at 6:35 PM, Coach Nowlin said: ZERO BITTERNESS: Go back through every single iu thread I have spoken in: I have led with defending Coach Cig the moment I listened 1 month after he was hired at IFCA clinic. Why does the fact that they won a National Title in this era and myself pointing that out is somehow bitter? I am here to push back on the narrative that folks like @Komets2727 want to claim as BEST TEAM IN HISTORY of college football. I say pump the brakes there big boy: You are currently the best team in the current climate that is known as Professional Collegiate Playoff Football I contended only that there other GREAT teams that also would have had the same outcome as 2025 IU team had if they could have competed in the same rules established, why is that bitter? How quickly we forget the path that Coach Brohm took Purdue.... man that quick to forget after IU was the smart school to give Coach Cig the shot. I find it funny that MANY IU fans acting like every Purdue alum/Fan should just back the hoosiers because that is the right thing to do. Where was this same Energy when Zach Edey and 2 Sophomore guards led the team to National Championship game. Don't remember many of your ilk lining up supporting openly the mere possibility that Purdue could have won a Title on that night...... Lets see where these energies take us in March , fingers crossed I do but I believe you also spoke multi times about what the spread was each week and whether the Hoosier covered it or not I certainly hope they would: IU roster full of 23 Plus year olds beating up on a 1st year JV team that turned over 80 players in year 1. Not sure that is the flex you're hoping for there my friend. JUST IN THIS THREAD ALONE: As soon as the line came out, I said, -7.5, I WILL HAMMER THAT, because I thought it was easy money. 1. All you folks in here telling me how much that is easy money and no way they can stay with IU, many predictions of 3 to 4 Td victory around these parts. 2. My own eyes: IU Defense I thought would continue to make BECK useless (he was) 3. Disappointed in the IU OL that I was told was so dominant all year, they could run on anyone and all that.... but instead, they let Miami hang all game to the point where they could not hold on to the 10 point and extend it. SO IT GOES: Worse 3 day sports span in my adult lifetime I can remember. First, I NEVER said they were the greatest team in CFB history. I challenge you to find that comment. I did say they had a great season, and certainly historical for the 100+ year history of IU football. Statistically, its impossible to argue that IU didn't have a great season. But at no time, did I say the GREATEST. Bottom line, you put no such qualified on Ohio State last year and Michigan the year prior to last. The rules have changed for everyone and IU is hardly the highest spender in CFB. Sorry your Boilers won't spend more on football, but they dang sure spend some cash on their bball team. If Purdue were to win in hoops, no qualifier from me, as its the same baseline for everyone. IU roster of 23 years olds...there you go again. Sorry their kids stay in school...as if that's a bad thing. Was it 23 year olds vs. "kids" the year prior when IU also took Purdue to the woodshed? I believe that game was a shutout if I remember correctly. When a roster has zero 5 stars, and only seven 4 stars, its it really that shocking they stay in school? BTW, the Miami Hurricane roster this year averaged approximately 23 yeard of age....yet didn't hear the media or you for that matter pointing it out. Your bias drives you to attempt to stick it to IU with your little barbs. Its actually funny because its so dang obvious. Its easy Coach...try it...."Congratulations IU on a tremendous football season and for winning the Natty and keeping it in the Big 10". After all, Purdue reaps some of the cash generated during their run for doing absolutely nothing..... Edited January 23 by Bash Riprock Quote
Komets2727 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: First, I NEVER said they were the greatest team in CFB history. I challenge you to find that comment. I did say they had a great season, and certainly historical for the 100+ year history of IU football. Statistically, its impossible to argue that IU didn't have a great season. But at no time, did I say the GREATEST. Bottom line, you put no such qualified on Ohio State last year and Michigan the year prior to last. The rules have changed for everyone and IU is hardly the highest spender in CFB. Sorry your Boilers won't spend more on football, but they dang sure spend some cash on their bball team. If Purdue were to win in hoops, no qualifier from me, as its the same baseline for everyone. IU roster of 23 years olds...there you go again. Sorry their kids stay in school...as if that's a bad thing. Was it 23 year olds vs. "kids" the year prior when IU also took Purdue to the woodshed? I believe that game was a shutout if I remember correctly. When a roster has zero 5 stars, and only seven 4 stars, its it really that shocking they stay in school? BTW, the Miami Hurricane roster this year averaged approximately 23 yeard of age....yet didn't hear the media or you for that matter pointing it out. Your bias drives you to attempt to stick it to IU with your little barbs. Its actually funny because its so dang obvious. Its easy Coach...try it...."Congratulations IU on a tremendous football season and for winning the Natty and keeping it in the Big 10". After all, Purdue reaps some of the cash generated during their run for doing absolutely nothing..... Bash, he wasn’t saying you said it, it was me. Indiana had the greatest season in college football history, hands down. It is hard to quantify who is the best team in history as there is no way to measure that as those teams will never play each other, but you can quantify my statement. It is hilarious how people now are trying to discredit IU’s victory. I remember many senior laden Indiana teams that only won 2-3 games against younger, more talented team. All that was said was Indiana was terrible at football… 1 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Komets2727 said: Bash, he wasn’t saying you said it, it was me. Indiana had the greatest season in college football history, hands down. It is hard to quantify who is the best team in history as there is no way to measure that as those teams will never play each other, but you can quantify my statement. It is hilarious how people now are trying to discredit IU’s victory. I remember many senior laden Indiana teams that only won 2-3 games against younger, more talented team. All that was said was Indiana was terrible at football… I hear what you are saying...I have never been one to claim greatest as I believe eras are so different and difficult to compare. But making comments to add qualifiers such as the NIL era is a joke. All college sports are in the NIL era and have been for multiple years now. The higher generating sports benefit more from NIL and everyone is on the same baseline. If a given school does not decide to invest, that's their call. But its not a negative that others do. Some schools like Purdue have chosen not to invest as much in football, but they sure have in basketball. My point is a qualifier is not necessary. I contend money has been put in players hands by a number of schools for years under the table. If anything, everyone is now under the same opportunity and its up to them if they wish to play in this space. But IU is hardly the top football school for NIL payments and doing so is open to everyone. (can't say that was the case in the past) The age thing is really a joke....again, they are complying with rules and other schools can do the same if they wish. As I mentioned, go look up Miami's avg roster age....no different than IU. But for some reason, many wish to make age references about IU. IU has been a lackluster football program for a century. I've still followed them and attended so many of their games over the years regardless. They finally hire the right coach and have back to back dream seasons, and people still want to pick holes. Soft schedule, (completely untrue) older than everyone else, bought their wins, and another favorite....they cheat by getting opposing team's gameplans in the cloud. I understand Purdue fans are not going to give much credit...and that's fine. But stop the trying to blow out IU's candle....instead help Purdue's candle to burn brighter. Quote
23andCounting Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: First, I NEVER said they were the greatest team in CFB history. I challenge you to find that comment. I did say they had a great season, and certainly historical for the 100+ year history of IU football. Statistically, its impossible to argue that IU didn't have a great season. But at no time, did I say the GREATEST. Bottom line, you put no such qualified on Ohio State last year and Michigan the year prior to last. The rules have changed for everyone and IU is hardly the highest spender in CFB. Sorry your Boilers won't spend more on football, but they dang sure spend some cash on their bball team. If Purdue were to win in hoops, no qualifier from me, as its the same baseline for everyone. IU roster of 23 years olds...there you go again. Sorry their kids stay in school...as if that's a bad thing. Was it 23 year olds vs. "kids" the year prior when IU also took Purdue to the woodshed? I believe that game was a shutout if I remember correctly. When a roster has zero 5 stars, and only seven 4 stars, its it really that shocking they stay in school? BTW, the Miami Hurricane roster this year averaged approximately 23 yeard of age....yet didn't hear the media or you for that matter pointing it out. Your bias drives you to attempt to stick it to IU with your little barbs. Its actually funny because its so dang obvious. Its easy Coach...try it...."Congratulations IU on a tremendous football season and for winning the Natty and keeping it in the Big 10". After all, Purdue reaps some of the cash generated during their run for doing absolutely nothing..... Coaches are already starting to mimic Cignetti in how they talk about their program. You're going to hear a lot of "trust the process" moving forward. They're also going take a good look at older players versus younger ones. They're also going to dive deeper into "production over potential"..............which they should have been doing for years anyway. Cignetti just boosted the stock in the kids are are a tad too short, a tad to thin, and a tad too fat. Production wins games, not potential. In short, 23 year old kids will become more common as more coaches try to emulate what Cignetti does. 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 23 Posted January 23 2 hours ago, 23andCounting said: Coaches are already starting to mimic Cignetti in how they talk about their program. You're going to hear a lot of "trust the process" moving forward. They're also going take a good look at older players versus younger ones. They're also going to dive deeper into "production over potential"..............which they should have been doing for years anyway. Cignetti just boosted the stock in the kids are are a tad too short, a tad to thin, and a tad too fat. Production wins games, not potential. In short, 23 year old kids will become more common as more coaches try to emulate what Cignetti does. tad too short, tad too slow, tad too fat....story of my life!!! If only I could have nailed the production piece!! 1 Quote
Komets2727 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, 23andCounting said: Coaches are already starting to mimic Cignetti in how they talk about their program. You're going to hear a lot of "trust the process" moving forward. They're also going take a good look at older players versus younger ones. They're also going to dive deeper into "production over potential"..............which they should have been doing for years anyway. Cignetti just boosted the stock in the kids are are a tad too short, a tad to thin, and a tad too fat. Production wins games, not potential. In short, 23 year old kids will become more common as more coaches try to emulate what Cignetti does. That is my point, nobody was bitching when Indiana had 4-5 year seniors and they were 3-9 every year before Cignetti. The caveat excuse is a joke!!!Every coach in the country could have done what Cignetti did, but not a single one did. Can’t remember the site, but Indiana is not in the top 20 of schools in paying NIL money, yet some would have you believe we broke the bank to get these players. Freaking joke!!! Indiana is at the head of the big boy table now and lots of people don’t like it… Edited January 23 by Komets2727 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Interesting point about the definition of rivalry….. Quote
23andCounting Posted January 24 Posted January 24 13 hours ago, Komets2727 said: That is my point, nobody was bitching when Indiana had 4-5 year seniors and they were 3-9 every year before Cignetti. The caveat excuse is a joke!!!Every coach in the country could have done what Cignetti did, but not a single one did. Can’t remember the site, but Indiana is not in the top 20 of schools in paying NIL money, yet some would have you believe we broke the bank to get these players. Freaking joke!!! Indiana is at the head of the big boy table now and lots of people don’t like it… Get better or get used to it? The Indiana hate train will probably be sometime around October or November when they are back at the top again and a contender for the title. The Cinderella story was cute, and most fans throughout the country are on board. But as this story becomes a dynasty, and I'm betting it will, you'll start seeing the same kind of hate for your Hoosiers that you saw with Alabama. Quote
Sparty Posted January 24 Posted January 24 1 hour ago, 23andCounting said: Get better or get used to it? The Indiana hate train will probably be sometime around October or November when they are back at the top again and a contender for the title. The Cinderella story was cute, and most fans throughout the country are on board. But as this story becomes a dynasty, and I'm betting it will, you'll start seeing the same kind of hate for your Hoosiers that you saw with Alabama. BOLD take. I’m here for it! No reason not to have confidence. Keep going Hoosiers. Quote
23andCounting Posted January 24 Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Sparty said: BOLD take. I’m here for it! No reason not to have confidence. Keep going Hoosiers. I'm Notre Dame through and through, but I know something good when I see it. I'm also proud to say that Notre Dame will remain a Top 5 program as long as Marcus Freeman is at the helm. I'd say the same for Indiana. Calling for a dynasty might be bold, but the Hoosiers are minimum Top 5 for the foreseeable future. 1 Quote
PHJIrish Posted January 25 Posted January 25 It was good to see Finebaum having to eat some crow! He was a slow and deliberate I thought he was going to turn Cream and Crimson!😊 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Pretty cool. IU was a major player in 4 of the top 7 college football games viewed on TV this season. Of course, those are all big games regardless of teams. Still great that a chunk of the nation watched the Hoosiers this season. 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Not a bad year…crazy to think more hardware in one year brought home to Btown than over 120 years of playing college football. Last bowl victory…1991 Copper Bowl. 2 Quote
23andCounting Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: Pretty cool. IU was a major player in 4 of the top 7 college football games viewed on TV this season. Of course, those are all big games regardless of teams. Still great that a chunk of the nation watched the Hoosiers this season. Goes to show that fans across the country appreciate a good Cinderella story. But yes, 4 of 7 is impressive. Quote
Komets2727 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) I was thinking about how well Indiana travelled during the CFP. Probably had 80% of the fans vs. Alabama, 90% of the fans vs.Oregon, and 70% of the fans vs. Miami in their stadium. Damn impressive Edited January 29 by Komets2727 1 Quote
Irishman Posted January 29 Posted January 29 6 hours ago, Komets2727 said: I was thinking about how well Indiana travelled during the CFP. Probably had 80% of the fans vs. Alabama, 90% of the fans vs.Oregon, and 70% of the fans vs. Miami in their stadium. Damn impressive They had a lot of people go to Oregon and LA when they played UCLA the previous season as well. But yeah, those playoff games were another level. It was quite the expensive post season for a lot of fans. Quote
Komets2727 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Irishman said: They had a lot of people go to Oregon and LA when they played UCLA the previous season as well. But yeah, those playoff games were another level. It was quite the expensive post season for a lot of fans. Indiana alum have money… People thought I was blowing smoke when I said the Hoosiers would have more fans than Miami in their own stadium, but I was right. With Cignetti, IU is here for awhile Quote
Irishman Posted January 30 Posted January 30 29 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: Indiana alum have money… People thought I was blowing smoke when I said the Hoosiers would have more fans than Miami in their own stadium, but I was right. With Cignetti, IU is here for awhile I knew they would too.I saw a couple of Miami home games this season and they cannot fill that stadium. Plus, Miami is a private school with under 20,000 students; on the small side these days. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 30 Posted January 30 15 hours ago, Komets2727 said: Indiana alum have money… People thought I was blowing smoke when I said the Hoosiers would have more fans than Miami in their own stadium, but I was right. With Cignetti, IU is here for awhile I didn't because you also have to add in the fans from a school in South Bend as well, the ole Combo fan I literally know 6 people within my world who tell me, I love ND and IU the same, it used to be ND football and IU Basketball , you know .. .because that was was the winners traditionally, now it is I love them both the same...... So add that into the very large ( 2nd largest Alum base in USA I believe ). Like the new b10 here, as mentioned the IU FB crowd was out west... no different than PU Hoops, their was very very large loud alum base a few weeks ago out at USC/UCLA hoops game. I think that is natural for alum that is spread out.. .IU is coming to cali.... we are 2 hours away... easier than flying back home if you will. 14 hours ago, Irishman said: I knew they would too.I saw a couple of Miami home games this season and they cannot fill that stadium. Plus, Miami is a private school with under 20,000 students; on the small side these days. Really, would have lost that wager..... figured they were state school.... 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 30 Posted January 30 34 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: I literally know 6 people within my world who tell me, I love ND and IU the same, it used to be ND football and IU Basketball , you know .. .because that was was the winners traditionally, now it is I love them both the same...... So add that into the very large ( 2nd largest Alum base in USA I believe ). According to this report, IU actually #1 largest alumni base. Big 10 has the top 5, and 7 of the 10 largest. Purdue comes in at #7. Crazy to think the state of Indiana 2 Big 10 schools have 2 of the largest alum bases in the country. https://www.almabase.com/blog/largest-alumni-associations 1 Quote
23andCounting Posted January 30 Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: I didn't because you also have to add in the fans from a school in South Bend as well, the ole Combo fan I literally know 6 people within my world who tell me, I love ND and IU the same, it used to be ND football and IU Basketball , you know .. .because that was was the winners traditionally, now it is I love them both the same...... So add that into the very large ( 2nd largest Alum base in USA I believe ). Like the new b10 here, as mentioned the IU FB crowd was out west... no different than PU Hoops, their was very very large loud alum base a few weeks ago out at USC/UCLA hoops game. I think that is natural for alum that is spread out.. .IU is coming to cali.... we are 2 hours away... easier than flying back home if you will. Really, would have lost that wager..... figured they were state school.... I think your peer group is more than likely an anomaly. If I asked six Notre Dame/IU fans, they are going lean more toward that ND in football and IU in basketball, I've never heard anyone say "the same," though I'm sure they are out there. I'm not sure the same type of person who goes to a ND game is likely to travel to Miami to see the Hoosiers. Maybe I'm wrong. If you throw alumni out of the equation and just polled fans from our state north of Downtown Indy, I think most will say they like both Notre Dame and Indiana. That pocket around Lafayette is a different story. I don't know many Purdue fans who like Notre Dame. Probably due to their history of losing to the Irish in football. Quote
23andCounting Posted January 30 Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: According to this report, IU actually #1 largest alumni base. Big 10 has the top 5, and 7 of the 10 largest. Purdue comes in at #7. Crazy to think the state of Indiana 2 Big 10 schools have 2 of the largest alum bases in the country. https://www.almabase.com/blog/largest-alumni-associations Never would have guessed that of Purdue, but I guess their enrollment is about the same as IU's. Neither school ranks in the Top 34 in terms of enrollment. Does that mean that IU and Purdue graduate their students at a much higher rate than everyone else? Quote
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