Irishman Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 1 hour ago, crimsonace1 said: Here's the backstory ... he has spent years trying to take this site over, even when TA was running things. He was jealous of all the attention TA got and how big of a deal the GID was and wanted to use the GID to improve his personal brand, all while telling us we were doing it wrong. When TA passed away, he swooped in - several times - to try to make himself the "editor" of this site (even calling himself that), while posting a bunch of false rumors and "topics" that were not good for HSFB, such as his long drumbeat for "contraction." During one of the times he was claiming to be the site "editor," he began spamming head coaches, using our name, and writing them almost daily demanding they respond to his questionnaires. He couldn't help himself. He's tried to create multiple alternate sites, but none of them have worked. After his last ban here, he tried to get involved with another statewide site, but they quickly got rid of him because he told them they were covering the wrong schools (basically, he told them in very crass terms they needed to stop covering urban schools so much). That's why he puts "Gridiron" in everything - he has badly wanted to "replace" the GID since he can't take this place over. Add to it that as he called himself the editor on the Facebook page, (If I recall, he included the title of editor in his email signature; not just the Facebook page edition, it implied he was the editor of this site.)he was deleting posts by other admins, people who had held admin roles for years before he arrived. He then sent a message to the admins stating they were to run any posts by him first for approval.
Trojan67 Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 Buddy is now copying and pasting comments and posting them to the page because he is mad. Mine was the first one. 2 2
Sparty Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 1 hour ago, crimsonace1 said: You can promote your players without responding to Tim's questionnaires. There's local and regional media and established people like the Indiana Football Digest, which all a much wider reach, and puts out a professional product that supports high school football without criticizing and badmouthing coaches and programs. I'd venture most coaches don't respond to Tim's questionnaires. The program I work most closely with completely ignores him and is one of the most widely-covered and promoted programs in the state. Thank you. Who is Tim?
coachpadgett71 Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 3 hours ago, Sparty said: I know it’s only high school sports and some folks take it way too seriously, but is that thought incorrect? Yes and no. I apologize ahead of time for the lengthy response but this is a hill I am willing to die on. That thought process is contributing to the mass exodus in our profession right now. I don't speak for every coach but I can tell you the job of a high school coach isn't an easy one. I love football and truly believe it is the greatest game there is. It saved my life and I have seen it save many more. That is what drew me to this vocation; the opportunity to have an impact on young people and make the world a better place. Coaches give a lot and will continue to give of themselves but I think the public at large is failing to reciprocate. Rather, we continue to add more and more to the plate of our coaches. Coaches wear many hats: teacher, coach, advocate, counselor, administrator, nutritionist, recruiting coordinator, social media promoter, and etc. AND we answer to everyone...our assistant coaches, administration, school board, teachers, players, parents, media, personal trainers, college coaches, and etc. Many people demand our time and that comes with the territory. If our players are going to be successful and get where they want to be then we have to find that time to give. I have answered those emails for DT before and for many other social media sites because I appreciate anyone that is taking the time to promote our kids. To be honest I don't respond enough to them and I need to be better. I have met with over 30 college coaches this off season promoting our players. This includes driving players on 3 visits and attending a recruiting clinic. I will be driving players to college spring ball practices in the coming months and hosting a college day on our campus in May. I have prepared a recruitment sheet for all 18 players that expressed interest in playing ball in college. I will do everything in my power to get a player to the next level. To give you a view of a typical week for a coach here are the duties I performed in the last 7 days. This does not include any family or grad school duties. ran weights before and after school. At the school building from 6am-6pm. taught school - my day job that pays the bills and has it's own set of standards and expectations offensive staff meeting Tuesday - If you have coached before you know those meetings are never short attended 2 athletic events to support our athletes visited 3 elementary schools for our reading program visited a middle school to pass out spring and summer schedules during their lunch periods promoted accomplishments by our football and weight programs on multiple social media sites attended a football clinic in Cincy on last Friday - was only able to stay for 4 hours due to an obligation at home but wanted to meet the new Valpo coach in person and see the Pitt DL coach who was incredible! 2 media interviews concerning new transfer rule and another media interview concerning concussions I tell you all of that to tell you that I am consistently told via social media that I am not doing enough to promote my players. Some of my players are being told, outside forces and handlers who stand to make a profit off of them, that I am also not doing enough to promote them. Maintaining a "we" over "me" culture is beginning to feel insurmountable at times which I believe is due to landscape of college football and now the landscape of Indiana high school football where we just opened the floodgates to allow more bad actors into the recruiting arena. We face constant scrutiny and negativity, even when we are winning. In the end you are what you put your time to. At some point every coach has to decide what that will be. I am a husband and a father of 4 boys. I am in grad school to prepare for a life after football to ensure my family can be provided for. My wife is a teacher and a coach. My kids play youth sports and I coach them when I can be there. My 8 year old is going through 1st communion preparation right now. My 5 year old is pumped to learn to ride his bike when it gets warm. My 4 year old starts baseball this spring. I still have one in diapers who will be diving into potty training soon. A lot of positive things. Things I hope each one of my players and students get to experience some day because a life full of love is the greatest gift we can receive. Please do not read this as a complaint as I wake up every day with gratitude for the blessing of being an educator and coach; I am truly blessed. I have always felt personal stories have power and I thought sharing mine here could create some empathy for my peers. I will keep fighting the good fight for as long as I can...but some day I will get tired and will have to make that decision on whether fighting the negativity is still worth my time as well. In the end I guess my point is...where would you put responding to an email for social media gratification on your list if you were me? I appreciate you all and everything you give to the game of football, even if it only opinions. There are some great people on this site and this site does matter. You are a part of the Indiana Football Community and our community is better for having you in it. God Bless 4 6
Muda69 Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 5 hours ago, Titan32 said: His Facebook page is a lot like his content was here....it has "some" excellent stuff with psychotic ramblings and off-the-wall positions sprinkled in. So pretty much like the GID on a day to day basis. 1 1
Muda69 Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 2 hours ago, crimsonace1 said: I'd venture most coaches don't respond to Tim's questionnaires. The program I work most closely with completely ignores him and is one of the most widely-covered and promoted programs in the state. Because you told Mr. Ralph to ignore him?
crimsonace1 Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 10 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Because you told Mr. Ralph to ignore him? I will get asked if a media member contacting the coaching staff is legit, and will say "yeah, this guy is worth your time" or "no, don't bother."
Sparty Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 36 minutes ago, coachpadgett71 said: Yes and no. I apologize ahead of time for the lengthy response but this is a hill I am willing to die on. That thought process is contributing to the mass exodus in our profession right now. I don't speak for every coach but I can tell you the job of a high school coach isn't an easy one. I love football and truly believe it is the greatest game there is. It saved my life and I have seen it save many more. That is what drew me to this vocation; the opportunity to have an impact on young people and make the world a better place. Coaches give a lot and will continue to give of themselves but I think the public at large is failing to reciprocate. Rather, we continue to add more and more to the plate of our coaches. Coaches wear many hats: teacher, coach, advocate, counselor, administrator, nutritionist, recruiting coordinator, social media promoter, and etc. AND we answer to everyone...our assistant coaches, administration, school board, teachers, players, parents, media, personal trainers, college coaches, and etc. Many people demand our time and that comes with the territory. If our players are going to be successful and get where they want to be then we have to find that time to give. I have answered those emails for DT before and for many other social media sites because I appreciate anyone that is taking the time to promote our kids. To be honest I don't respond enough to them and I need to be better. I have met with over 30 college coaches this off season promoting our players. This includes driving players on 3 visits and attending a recruiting clinic. I will be driving players to college spring ball practices in the coming months and hosting a college day on our campus in May. I have prepared a recruitment sheet for all 18 players that expressed interest in playing ball in college. I will do everything in my power to get a player to the next level. To give you a view of a typical week for a coach here are the duties I performed in the last 7 days. This does not include any family or grad school duties. ran weights before and after school. At the school building from 6am-6pm. taught school - my day job that pays the bills and has it's own set of standards and expectations offensive staff meeting Tuesday - If you have coached before you know those meetings are never short attended 2 athletic events to support our athletes visited 3 elementary schools for our reading program visited a middle school to pass out spring and summer schedules during their lunch periods promoted accomplishments by our football and weight programs on multiple social media sites attended a football clinic in Cincy on last Friday - was only able to stay for 4 hours due to an obligation at home but wanted to meet the new Valpo coach in person and see the Pitt DL coach who was incredible! 2 media interviews concerning new transfer rule and another media interview concerning concussions I tell you all of that to tell you that I am consistently told via social media that I am not doing enough to promote my players. Some of my players are being told, outside forces and handlers who stand to make a profit off of them, that I am also not doing enough to promote them. Maintaining a "we" over "me" culture is beginning to feel insurmountable at times which I believe is due to landscape of college football and now the landscape of Indiana high school football where we just opened the floodgates to allow more bad actors into the recruiting arena. We face constant scrutiny and negativity, even when we are winning. In the end you are what you put your time to. At some point every coach has to decide what that will be. I am a husband and a father of 4 boys. I am in grad school to prepare for a life after football to ensure my family can be provided for. My wife is a teacher and a coach. My kids play youth sports and I coach them when I can be there. My 8 year old is going through 1st communion preparation right now. My 5 year old is pumped to learn to ride his bike when it gets warm. My 4 year old starts baseball this spring. I still have one in diapers who will be diving into potty training soon. A lot of positive things. Things I hope each one of my players and students get to experience some day because a life full of love is the greatest gift we can receive. Please do not read this as a complaint as I wake up every day with gratitude for the blessing of being an educator and coach; I am truly blessed. I have always felt personal stories have power and I thought sharing mine here could create some empathy for my peers. I will keep fighting the good fight for as long as I can...but some day I will get tired and will have to make that decision on whether fighting the negativity is still worth my time as well. In the end I guess my point is...where would you put responding to an email for social media gratification on your list if you were me? I appreciate you all and everything you give to the game of football, even if it only opinions. There are some great people on this site and this site does matter. You are a part of the Indiana Football Community and our community is better for having you in it. God Bless Are you asking me, since you quoted me? I will presume you are and say, answer all you can. Me personally, I’d answer all of them. This is the beauty of coach speech. 12 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said: I will get asked if a media member contacting the coaching staff is legit, and will say "yeah, this guy is worth your time" or "no, don't bother." SID at the HS level is wild. As wild as GM in college.
Coach Nowlin Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 1 hour ago, coachpadgett71 said: Yes and no. I apologize ahead of time for the lengthy response but this is a hill I am willing to die on. That thought process is contributing to the mass exodus in our profession right now. I don't speak for every coach but I can tell you the job of a high school coach isn't an easy one. I love football and truly believe it is the greatest game there is. It saved my life and I have seen it save many more. That is what drew me to this vocation; the opportunity to have an impact on young people and make the world a better place. Coaches give a lot and will continue to give of themselves but I think the public at large is failing to reciprocate. Rather, we continue to add more and more to the plate of our coaches. Coaches wear many hats: teacher, coach, advocate, counselor, administrator, nutritionist, recruiting coordinator, social media promoter, and etc. AND we answer to everyone...our assistant coaches, administration, school board, teachers, players, parents, media, personal trainers, college coaches, and etc. Many people demand our time and that comes with the territory. If our players are going to be successful and get where they want to be then we have to find that time to give. I have answered those emails for DT before and for many other social media sites because I appreciate anyone that is taking the time to promote our kids. To be honest I don't respond enough to them and I need to be better. I have met with over 30 college coaches this off season promoting our players. This includes driving players on 3 visits and attending a recruiting clinic. I will be driving players to college spring ball practices in the coming months and hosting a college day on our campus in May. I have prepared a recruitment sheet for all 18 players that expressed interest in playing ball in college. I will do everything in my power to get a player to the next level. To give you a view of a typical week for a coach here are the duties I performed in the last 7 days. This does not include any family or grad school duties. ran weights before and after school. At the school building from 6am-6pm. taught school - my day job that pays the bills and has it's own set of standards and expectations offensive staff meeting Tuesday - If you have coached before you know those meetings are never short attended 2 athletic events to support our athletes visited 3 elementary schools for our reading program visited a middle school to pass out spring and summer schedules during their lunch periods promoted accomplishments by our football and weight programs on multiple social media sites attended a football clinic in Cincy on last Friday - was only able to stay for 4 hours due to an obligation at home but wanted to meet the new Valpo coach in person and see the Pitt DL coach who was incredible! 2 media interviews concerning new transfer rule and another media interview concerning concussions I tell you all of that to tell you that I am consistently told via social media that I am not doing enough to promote my players. Some of my players are being told, outside forces and handlers who stand to make a profit off of them, that I am also not doing enough to promote them. Maintaining a "we" over "me" culture is beginning to feel insurmountable at times which I believe is due to landscape of college football and now the landscape of Indiana high school football where we just opened the floodgates to allow more bad actors into the recruiting arena. We face constant scrutiny and negativity, even when we are winning. In the end you are what you put your time to. At some point every coach has to decide what that will be. I am a husband and a father of 4 boys. I am in grad school to prepare for a life after football to ensure my family can be provided for. My wife is a teacher and a coach. My kids play youth sports and I coach them when I can be there. My 8 year old is going through 1st communion preparation right now. My 5 year old is pumped to learn to ride his bike when it gets warm. My 4 year old starts baseball this spring. I still have one in diapers who will be diving into potty training soon. A lot of positive things. Things I hope each one of my players and students get to experience some day because a life full of love is the greatest gift we can receive. Please do not read this as a complaint as I wake up every day with gratitude for the blessing of being an educator and coach; I am truly blessed. I have always felt personal stories have power and I thought sharing mine here could create some empathy for my peers. I will keep fighting the good fight for as long as I can...but some day I will get tired and will have to make that decision on whether fighting the negativity is still worth my time as well. In the end I guess my point is...where would you put responding to an email for social media gratification on your list if you were me? I appreciate you all and everything you give to the game of football, even if it only opinions. There are some great people on this site and this site does matter. You are a part of the Indiana Football Community and our community is better for having you in it. God Bless OG GID will understand this: RACK IT !!!! 5 3
Donnie Baker Posted February 28, 2025 Author Posted February 28, 2025 4 hours ago, Trojan67 said: Buddy is now copying and pasting comments and posting them to the page because he is mad. Mine was the first one. You deserve a trophy for that, I swear to God you do 1 1
Trojan67 Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 2 hours ago, Donnie Baker said: You deserve a trophy for that, I swear to God you do Does Angel Skinner know that you were giving away your prized boat? Or did your next door neighbor's wife complain that it was an eye sore to the HOA and they impounded it? I need a new addition to my house so I can sleep under the stars when I want to lol. 1
23andCounting Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 13 hours ago, coachpadgett71 said: I appreciate anyone that is taking the time to promote our kids. Great read, but that was my favorite part. Most high school coaches are in it for the passion. They put in an obscene amount of time with very little financial reward. And the kids? Young men is probably a little more appropriate. Most of these 17 & 18 year old's are big enough and fast enough to give the fans an awarding experience, yet still have that innocence about them that many at the college level lack. What's not to love about high school football? It's a crime that 10,000 fans don't pack the stands in the bigger cities. Folks are missing out on some good football. 1
Muda69 Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 14 hours ago, crimsonace1 said: I will get asked if a media member contacting the coaching staff is legit, and will say "yeah, this guy is worth your time" or "no, don't bother." So you are their media handler. And with what qualifications/credentials do you deem yourself worthy of that position? Long time member of the GID?
Muda69 Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 1 hour ago, 23andCounting said: Great read, but that was my favorite part. Most high school coaches are in it for the passion. They put in an obscene amount of time with very little financial reward. And the kids? Young men is probably a little more appropriate. Most of these 17 & 18 year old's are big enough and fast enough to give the fans an awarding experience, yet still have that innocence about them that many at the college level lack. What's not to love about high school football? It's a crime that 10,000 fans don't pack the stands in the bigger cities. Folks are missing out on some good football. "obscene" is a bit of hyperbole here IMHO. And if it truly is "obscene" then we as adults, parents, coaches, administrators, fans, etc. really need to reconsider the importance we are putting on a game played by children.
Coach Nowlin Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 You should go talk to Under armor muda They just announced a new big Nationwide All-Star Game For middle schoolers...........
23andCounting Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 55 minutes ago, Muda69 said: "obscene" is a bit of hyperbole here IMHO. And if it truly is "obscene" then we as adults, parents, coaches, administrators, fans, etc. really need to reconsider the importance we are putting on a game played by children. I would argue that a coach has more value to the world when teaching a game to so called "children" than he does at the college level. The amount of time they pour in for little financial reward speaks volumes to their commitment to society versus that of a college coach who does it for a seven figure salary. Wonders if if you would have called Jaylon Smith and Jack Kiser "children" to their face when they were 18 years old given the opportunity. Two hits, them hitting you, you hitting the ground (if they wanted to, which they wouldn't since they were fine young men at that age.) You must be bored this morning looking for a reason to come down on someone's post. 1
Irishman Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: So you are their media handler. And with what qualifications/credentials do you deem yourself worthy of that position? Long time member of the GID? So, you ever trust someone close to you for advice? Especially someone you might work with and see on a daily basis? Do you have a list of professionals those coaches should turn to whom you would 'deem worthy' of being asked such a question? 52 minutes ago, 23andCounting said: You must be bored this morning looking for a reason to come down on someone's post. Hang on for the merry go round ride he takes you on. 🤣 1 2
gonzoron Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 1 hour ago, 23andCounting said: You must be bored this morning looking for a reason to come down on someone's post. Is he going to be called a 'bully' also?
crimsonace1 Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 5 hours ago, Muda69 said: So you are their media handler. And with what qualifications/credentials do you deem yourself worthy of that position? Long time member of the GID? One, I was hired by the athletic director to do it. Two, 28 years in professional media covering high school, college and professional sports in Indiana, 9 at newspapers, 19 in broadcasting. Former Indiana Sportscaster of the Year, Indiana Media Relations Director of the year, multi-time AP & Hoosier State Press Association award winner, former president of the Indiana Sportswriters & Sportscasters Association ... need any more qualifications? I have a pretty good handle on the media landscape in our state. 7 1
crimsonace1 Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 20 hours ago, Sparty said: SID at the HS level is wild. As wild as GM in college. With social media, website, graphics, et al, and with the number of media members who cover our school's teams on a regular basis, having someone to do athletics communications is pretty important. Our school just happens to have a veteran of the media on its teaching staff to do that work. Believe me, it's a very, very, very part-time job. 1
Donnie Baker Posted February 28, 2025 Author Posted February 28, 2025 47 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said: One, I was hired by the athletic director to do it. Two, 28 years in professional media covering high school, college and professional sports in Indiana, 9 at newspapers, 19 in broadcasting. Former Indiana Sportscaster of the Year, Indiana Media Relations Director of the year, multi-time AP & Hoosier State Press Association award winner, former president of the Indiana Sportswriters & Sportscasters Association ... need any more qualifications? I have a pretty good handle on the media landscape in our state. And you said it right to his face! 5 1
Titan32 Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 34 minutes ago, Donnie Baker said: And you said it right to his face! In cursive. 2 1
Muda69 Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 6 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: You should go talk to Under armor muda They just announced a new big Nationwide All-Star Game For middle schoolers........... *blech* Truly just a game, played by children.
Muda69 Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 6 hours ago, 23andCounting said: Wonders if if you would have called Jaylon Smith and Jack Kiser "children" to their face when they were 18 years old given the opportunity. When they were 18? Of course not, then they are adults. Unless their behavior regarding whatever circumstance we are involved in was childish behavior. Then I would use the word "children" to their faces, regardless of age. Are all individuals on a high school football team 18+? Guess should amend my statement to "Just a game, mostly played by children" 6 hours ago, 23andCounting said: You must be bored this morning looking for a reason to come down on someone's post. Welcome to the GID, young man. Just calling out hyperbole when I see it.
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