North Side makes a change

[Justasportsfan]

Lots of love for Luers yet no one bats an eye when a kid shows up freshman year that didn't go through the cyo ranks..talent development just doesn't start at the high school level..are these new coaches promising starting spots and exposure, probably. Bowen helped shape the new offense Snider ran when they started making runs with Tippman, his scheme catered to the strengths of the offense at Northrop. Those players could have went anywhere, can't blame him..Dwenger backup qb transfers from Luers and ends up playing against roncalli..it happens. Bowen n those Bruins beat Snider twice and it could have been 1 point both times..still hadn't been done in over 2 decades.

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, Justasportsfan said:

Lots of love for Luers yet no one bats an eye when a kid shows up freshman year that didn't go through the cyo ranks..talent development just doesn't start at the high school level..are these new coaches promising starting spots and exposure, probably. Bowen helped shape the new offense Snider ran when they started making runs with Tippman, his scheme catered to the strengths of the offense at Northrop. Those players could have went anywhere, can't blame him..Dwenger backup qb transfers from Luers and ends up playing against roncalli..it happens. Bowen n those Bruins beat Snider twice and it could have been 1 point both times..still hadn't been done in over 2 decades.

Good points:

I don't want to underestimate the value of the CYO system. 

Bowen did have some pretty good offenses at Snider. Kudos to him for putting the Bruins in the position they were in last season. 

At the end of the day, I think my problem is with the new transfer rule. Like college, it just created one hell of a mess. Get kicked out of practice? So what, I'll transfer. Don't like the way a coach talks to me? So what, I'll transfer. The guy that spoke to me at summer camp was pretty cool? Awesome, I'll transfer. Accountability has been tossed out the window. And loyalty just doesn't exist anymore.

[Justasportsfan]

5 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

Good points:

I don't want to underestimate the value of the CYO system. 

Bowen did have some pretty good offenses at Snider. Kudos to him for putting the Bruins in the position they were in last season. 

At the end of the day, I think my problem is with the new transfer rule. Like college, it just created one hell of a mess. Get kicked out of practice? So what, I'll transfer. Don't like the way a coach talks to me? So what, I'll transfer. The guy that spoke to me at summer camp was pretty cool? Awesome, I'll transfer. Accountability has been tossed out the window. And loyalty just doesn't exist anymore.

I'll give you that. I never thought I'd see the day so many kids would be allowed to transfer. Neighborhood kids enjoyed creating rivalries with surrounding neighborhoods or having a cross town rival..now they all go workout together during the off-season and speak of creating super teams..Loyalty has been left behind..

[Frozen Tundra]

1 hour ago, Justasportsfan said:

I'll give you that. I never thought I'd see the day so many kids would be allowed to transfer. Neighborhood kids enjoyed creating rivalries with surrounding neighborhoods or having a cross town rival..now they all go workout together during the off-season and speak of creating super teams..Loyalty has been left behind..

Thanks LeBron 😂

[IPFWFootball]

1 hour ago, 23andCounting said:

At the end of the day, I think my problem is with the new transfer rule. Like college, it just created one hell of a mess. Get kicked out of practice? So what, I'll transfer. Don't like the way a coach talks to me? So what, I'll transfer. The guy that spoke to me at summer camp was pretty cool? Awesome, I'll transfer. Accountability has been tossed out the window. And loyalty just doesn't exist anymore.

I think this point of accountability holds true in this era of transferring. It's just too easy to do now with open enrollment/vouchers/etc. It just seem to have gotten even bigger on the Public->Public and Private->Public transfer side. 

The big issue in my opinion are the adults in the situation. Coaches do what they have to do to try and build their programs whether I agree with that or not, its what they need to do to compete. Its the outside voices/trainers/advisors who get in the mix that I don't like. 

[hhpatriot04]

This is definitely more of a problem in metro areas ... much harder to create super teams when the two schools in the county are 30 minutes apart and some kids would have to drive nearly an hour to get to the other school.

[Coach Nowlin]

54 minutes ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Thanks LeBron 😂

Easy now:  He has partnered with the PGA TOUR.    

[23andCounting]

55 minutes ago, hhpatriot04 said:

This is definitely more of a problem in metro areas ... much harder to create super teams when the two schools in the county are 30 minutes apart and some kids would have to drive nearly an hour to get to the other school.

That's why it's hard not to appreciate programs like East Noble and Adams Central up here in NE Indiana. 

[Justasportsfan]

1 hour ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Thanks LeBron 😂

I was always a Jordan fan myself!! I agree with you!!

[Justasportsfan]

1 hour ago, IPFWFootball said:

I think this point of accountability holds true in this era of transferring. It's just too easy to do now with open enrollment/vouchers/etc. It just seem to have gotten even bigger on the Public->Public and Private->Public transfer side. 

The big issue in my opinion are the adults in the situation. Coaches do what they have to do to try and build their programs whether I agree with that or not, its what they need to do to compete. Its the outside voices/trainers/advisors who get in the mix that I don't like. 

I'm wondering how current coaches combat this? Do they have someone on staff that purely checks the energy of the players and parents in the program? Are these coaches blindsided by the transfers or at least hear the rumblings? Not saying they need to cater to every kid, just if my star rb is on the verge of leaving id hope someone puts a bug in my ear to let me decide how to handle it if I choose to..of course hypothetically speaking..

Edited yesterday at 04:09 PM by Justasportsfan

[Robert]

7 hours ago, Justasportsfan said:

Lots of love for Luers yet no one bats an eye when a kid shows up freshman year that didn't go through the cyo ranks..talent development just doesn't start at the high school level..are these new coaches promising starting spots and exposure, probably. Bowen helped shape the new offense Snider ran when they started making runs with Tippman, his scheme catered to the strengths of the offense at Northrop. Those players could have went anywhere, can't blame him..Dwenger backup qb transfers from Luers and ends up playing against roncalli..it happens. Bowen n those Bruins beat Snider twice and it could have been 1 point both times..still hadn't been done in over 2 decades.

Oh, they bat eyes.  I'm 100% sure that I was teaching at Harding and know why Jaylon didn't go there.  

[Justasportsfan]

1 hour ago, Robert said:

Oh, they bat eyes.  I'm 100% sure that I was teaching at Harding and know why Jaylon didn't go there.  

Same reason why Thomas didn't go to Northside?

[LC_Bears_04]

Northrop at North Side is going to be a massive game for both teams in week 3.

[Donnie Baker]

If you wanna know why they got fired go to DTees Facebook page and read what that boy named Cody posted 

[IPFWFootball]

16 hours ago, Justasportsfan said:

Same reason why Thomas didn't go to Northside?

He was totally drawn away to receive a good Catholic education. Definitely not because he didn't want to have to share the basketball with 3 other D1 guys. 

[jakone]

3 hours ago, IPFWFootball said:

He was totally drawn away to receive a good Catholic education. Definitely not because he didn't want to have to share the basketball with 3 other D1 guys. 

His 2nd choice was Concordia so it didn't happen to be any else but his parents wanted him in private school. 

Edited 5 hours ago by jakone

[Justasportsfan]

43 minutes ago, jakone said:

His 2nd choice was Concordia so it didn't happen to be any else but his parents wanted him in private school. 

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43 minutes ago, jakone said:

His 2nd choice was Concordia so it didn't happen to be any else but his parents wanted him in private school. 

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I do remember seeing Spencer dunk in 8th grade for queen of angels..or st Therese..I’ll give the cyo that..

[First_Backer_Inside]

On 8/26/2026 at 4:43 AM, 23andCounting said:

At the end of the day, the new transfer rules have made things pretty messy. It's a free for all out there, the wild wild west. Building a program is now more challenging than ever with other coaches out there trying to poach the players you've spent time developing. A kid goes through the Luers program, gets developed, then Northrop or North Side get to enjoy the fruits of Luers labor. It's not right. It was a brain dead decision by the IHSAA. I'm not at all impressed with what Bowen did at Northrop. He brought in some high profile players and still almost lost to Snider's worst team ever last season in the playoffs.

Kind of how it was when we didn't have the transfer rule in place, but flipped. Not saying the transfer rule is a good thing. It is what it is, but the private schools might be getting a taste of what the public schools feel like. Can't speak for all privates, but there are stories of 10-15 years ago, kids go to a public school all the way up till freshman year, then end up at a private school. Could be for the private school education who knows. All I'm saying is since the implementation of the transfer rule, there are fewer dominant privates racking up two or three state championships in a five year period. I also understand that the success factor plays a huge role in this as well and is doing its job also.

[Robert]

22 hours ago, Justasportsfan said:

Same reason why Thomas didn't go to Northside?

I don't think so. 

[Justasportsfan]

2 hours ago, Robert said:

I don't think so. 

I'm intrigued.  What happened?